Boston Marathon Bombing

dr. farr

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Note that on the day of the bombing, the DJIA (stock market) suddenly fell 245 points, its largest one day decline in many months.
Perhaps more significantly (analogically at least), the gold market suddenly fell 131 dollars, the largest one day % decline in value in 20 years, and, in dollar amount, the largest one day decline since 1983. Notice that the Sun, in partile conjunction with Mars, was in its sign of exaltation (Aries), and the conjunct Mars in its domicile (and the Sun was also in a Bright degree)-according to the theory of dignity and detriment, the Sun (and, indeed Mars) should have been very fortunate, under such conditions of rulership (Mars) and exaltation (Sun): yet the reverse held true (notice especially regarding the Sun's affinitive metal, gold) Interestingly (to me at least), I notice that the Sun is in the duodenary (duad) of Aquarius, which sign is, of course, the detriment of the Sun-perhaps an example of the actual importance of duodenary placements (dwads), which most of us simply don't take into account when delineating mundane charts?? Maybe so...
 

piercethevale

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The news about the Gold Mkt. is most appreciated as the estate of my late parents is about to be sold. My inheritance is directed to be doled out over a span of some years but I can direct how it is to be saved/deposited/kept and I have already indicated to the executor that I will probably insist it be turned into precious metal, preferably gold, rather than a C.D., savings acct. or other Banking means...esp. considering what I've been seeing astrologically for the USA's economy, its currency and the banking industry for the next few years.

If it drops even more in the next couple of months it works out even better for me. That is unless the price of gold tanks between this year and five and or 10 years from now....which I don't think it will do...not in the next five years, anyways.

Good looking out for us all, thanks!
 

astrology02

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I sometime gets visions when i go to sleep. Last night I seen a lone male with runners in the background. It makes me think that the person responsible for the attack was not affiliated with a particular group. He acted alone, and had an agenda to gain recognition/attention. He is an American citizen, but of foreign decent. (Sorry i don't no the specific background, and because predictions/visions are not always 100% accurate, I don't want to speculate). The public will assist in some way in bringing justice.

Please note, my visions are not 100%, and sometimes they are wrong, so don't take this as gospel. It is simply what I seen.
 

astrology02

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Also seeing an attack of some sort in Los Angeles. Not sure the specific time.

Visions are not 100% and are used as guidance, not fact. They can be wrong sometimes.
 

haj

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There is no confusion on my part. The cusps have no part in this discussion.
I encourage anyone that wishes to know more...and more accurately...what Edgar Cayce said concerning astrology to read Ry Redd's book "Toward a New Astrology: The Approach of Edgar Cayce". Better yet, study the actual readings themselves.

"the astrological influences are not in the form...so oft judged by the purely astrological aspects from [birth] records. For the shifting, the changes [through precession of the equinoxes] that have been wrought in the zodiac as well as the signs and positions of this material sphere [earth] in relationship to the whole [fixed zodiac] have been misjudged" (Reading 1770-2).

"Though oft they are correct, more often ye find them at variance. For most astrologers are nearly thirty degrees off in their reckoning in the present" (Reading 3376-2).

"the Egyptian and Persian records are quite varied. If the entity would study astrology, do not put the signs in the Egyptian but rather in the Persian, for the Persian interpretations are more proficient than the Egyptian...but the variations in time have been corrected by the Persians and not by the Egyptians. The Egyptian calculations are thirty degrees off" (Reading 2011-3).

The above are from Ry Redd's book under the chapter "Tropical versus Sidereal".

These are just a few of the readings that prove this.
 

piercethevale

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There is no confusion on my part. The cusps have no part in this discussion.
I encourage anyone that wishes to know more...and more accurately...what Edgar Cayce said concerning astrology to read Ry Redd's book "Toward a New Astrology: The Approach of Edgar Cayce". Better yet, study the actual readings themselves.

"the astrological influences are not in the form...so oft judged by the purely astrological aspects from [birth] records. For the shifting, the changes [through precession of the equinoxes] that have been wrought in the zodiac as well as the signs and positions of this material sphere [earth] in relationship to the whole [fixed zodiac] have been misjudged" (Reading 1770-2).

"Though oft they are correct, more often ye find them at variance. For most astrologers are nearly thirty degrees off in their reckoning in the present" (Reading 3376-2).

"the Egyptian and Persian records are quite varied. If the entity would study astrology, do not put the signs in the Egyptian but rather in the Persian, for the Persian interpretations are more proficient than the Egyptian...but the variations in time have been corrected by the Persians and not by the Egyptians. The Egyptian calculations are thirty degrees off" (Reading 2011-3).

The above are from Ry Redd's book under the chapter "Tropical versus Sidereal".

These are just a few of the readings that prove this.

Apparently you are mostly correct. I had a little time this afternoon to comb through a few books of mine on Cayce.
In one reading, He said, the inquirer was given to be even two signs off which lead astrologer Margaret Gammon to conclude that the answer would be found in a combination of understanding the procession of the equinoxes and the Persian calendar. [She had no one to consult on the matter of the Persian calendar and admitted her inadequacy to try to make any conclusive judgement.]

Well, as to myself and what I've been studying in astrology and as to where-in I've found an enormous amount of continuous success, and no disappointment, is in the Sabian Symbols and the Astrological Parts...and they are unaffected by the Zodiac.
The Parts/Lots are mathematical calculated points in a chart that are valid regardless of what sign one thinks there are in. They will always be in aspect to the chart axis and, when conjuncted by any transiting astro-influence, they are always of affect.
The Sabian Symbols have been found and repeatedly proven to now be right where they were at least 2000 years ago and very likely were for many centuries before that. They are given association with Zodiacal degrees as reference points because otherwise they would be shifting at the rate of a degree apprx. every 72 years,...and they don't. I've also worked with the best clairvoyant I know of on understanding this matter and she acknowledged that, yes, they haven't moved in the last 2000 years. [Although she did say she 'saw'' them beginning to shift in the very near future but it will be at an inexorably slow rate.]
The only conclusion is that the character, the 'Precept', that is each separate Sabian Symbol, does not emanate from the stars, the constellations, but rather from our Sun. It is our interface, our relative position, with the Sun that is this influence. On the day of the Spring equinox the influence of affect is that Sabian Symbol that is given the designated position of being Aries 1*, the Symbol, the Precept that it represents is of affect regardless of what Zodiacal degree one believes them to really be in. [Astrologer June Wakeman is of a similar opinion in that it is the Sun that is source of the various preceptual {perceptual?} influence/effects. Michael Erlewine has been studying and advancing Helio-Centric Astrology and there are others.]

To be perfectly honest I have little use for the Zodiacal signs and what attributes are claimed to be found within. The "MAGIC" is in the Sabian Symbols, the chart axis points [and the cusps] and the Astrological Parts/Lots...they are symbolically active, of that there is a multitude of proof and of which I have no doubt. My efforts are directed at getting Western/Occidental Astrologers to understand this, [you Eastern/Oriental astrologers can help yourselves] and to get them to recognize the veracity and inestimable value of the Sabian Symbols and their use. When applied to understanding the interpretation of the chart axis, again, it makes no difference what Astrological Sign one wishes to argue is in place. It is the Sabian Symbology that one needs to be aware of and understand and the same goes for all Astrological Parts. Also, in honesty, I have been trying to avoid the issue as it is difficult enough to get Western/Occidental Astrologers onboard with the issue concerning Sabian Symbols, the chart axis, and Astrological Parts without tearing into their whole concept of the Zodiac.

So, back on to the subject of the day, April 15, Uranus did conjunct the Part of Transformation of the USA's natal chart [Zodiacal considerations have no say in that and are of no consequence], Pluto did go retrograde from the same degree as that of the USA's natal M.C. on April 12th, [Again, regardless of any Zodiacal considerations].
And Uranus will make a retrograde pass over the USA's Part of Transformation and then direct again in the next 8 months.

The only possible argument there is, is whether the chart I say is the natal chart of the USA is indeed that...but I'm 100% convinced that it is along with a number of other folks...and I'm not going to participate in any arguments about that, one can either except it our follow their own perceived natal chart for the USA.
 
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dr. farr

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Also seeing an attack of some sort in Los Angeles. Not sure the specific time.

Visions are not 100% and are used as guidance, not fact. They can be wrong sometimes.


Tonight (c11:35 PM EDT) shots were fired at the Mass. Institute of Technology campus, some kind of "active shooter" attack going on as of this time.
Not Los Angeles, but-another attack in the Boston area...within a day of the above-poster's vision...
 

piercethevale

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When using a sidereal chart that is based on the Edgar Cayce readings the first thing you notice is the stellium of Mer, Ura, Sun, Mars, & Ven all in the 8th house which is ruled by Jup placed in the 10th. The Sun is the ruler of the chart in a tight con with Mars. Mars is the Lord of the MC. Using the essential dignities, the Sun (lord of the Asc) is in the term, trip, and face of Mars. Mars (Lord of the 9th and 4th) is in its own term, trip, and face. Saturn is exalted in the 3rd and also in its own trip, in a mutual reception by term with Venus and by face with the Moon. Any thoughts on this?

It would be nice if you gave us this sidereal chart you refer to.
As no one was ever able to get Edgar to state exactly how far off the two systems were/are from each other...it would still amount to to a uncertain degree of speculation. Yet, I haven't read any of Ry Redd's work, in fact I never heard of him until today, so it may be possible that Mr. Redd has determined this difference. I'll try to get a copy of the book, it sounds very interesting.
[You are aware that in all readings that dealt with anything other than physical ailments or conditions of the physical body it wasn't Edgar speaking [or may have been very little]. He was channeling. This was questioned by the officers of the ARE in a reading in 1935. Cayce was asked to what extent is the information given by Cayce on matters pertaining to other than the physical body coming from the most esoteric and occult group of legend, "The Great White Brotherhood"

Reading 254-83, Feb. 14, 1935,
The reading began with a acknowledgement that the ARE had become aware of some other source of the information other than the soul of Edgar and an expression of thanks and gratitude. Edgar replied; "Yes, we-from the source of all knowledge that is promised in Him salute thee, and give that which will be helpful...[I leave out the lengthy speech that ensued, it was just words of positive reinforcement] ...Then, from the heights of those experiences, those hierarchies in the earth and in the air, we come as messengers of truth to those who will hear, and question."

"Q. To what extent are the Masters of the Great White Brotherhood directing the activities of Edgar Cayce? Who are the Masters directly in charge?"
"A. Messengers from the higher forces that may manifest from the Throne of Grace itself"
"Q. Who are the Masters directly in charge? Is Saint Germain-"
"A. [interrupting] Those that are directed by the Lord of lords, The Kings of kings, Him that came that ye might be one with the Father"
"Q. Is Saint Germain among them? Who is Halaliel?"
"A. These are all but messengers of the Most High. Halaliel is that one who from the beginning has been as a leader of the heavenly host, who has defied Ariel, who has made the ways that have been heavy-but as the means for the understanding."
"Q. Is Saint Germain among them?"
"A. When needed."

I felt it was necessary to present this as to your bringing Cayce into this thread and people have a right to know...should know...the background story pertaining to the Cayce material.]

As to Planetary rulership of Jupiter, I don't concur with the current notion that it is the Piscean and nor do some other folks that I know of that are privy to other sources of info. IMHO, Jupiter is the planetary ruler of Capricorn and Aquarius, the Planet that once was located between Mars and Jupiter must still be accounted for even though it has been shattered into the rubble now known as the asteroids. I believe it is the book "Hamlets Mill" that states that "Lucifer shattered the planet in order to confuse man's psyche", but don't exactly recall. My brother read this and quoted it to me in 1984 and I seem to recall that was the source.

Houses are another issue, with me anyways, since determining that the Theosophists school of "Esoteric Astrology" is at least partially correct in stating that the procession of the 360 degrees should be followed in reverse of the "Traditional or Orthodox' method...the only thing is, it commences at the 30th degree of Virgo...at least as to reading and understanding the entire process of transformation involved in the 360 degrees. When this is understood that it is the correct direction then the question arises if whether what is considered to now be the 12th house in a chart is not indeed the 1st house...and a host of other assorted, related questions that it produces.

I do want to apologize for the "knee-jerk reactionary" way in which I responded to your statement about Mr. Cayce. This forum is ever subjected to comments by those that mis-quote, or falsely quote, Edgar in an attempt to cast suspicion or doubt on others beliefs or what research they've done and have presented.
I was being somewhat dis-honest in that I knew of Cayce's readings concerning the discrepancies but as Mr. Cayce never specifically used or spoke the term "Sidereal", I was speaking a 'half truth'. as it being your first post in this forum I figured you for just some 'trouble maker', or troll, that had no real knowledge of Cayce or the readings. [...and that does happen, in this forum and others that I've written and posted in.].

I look forward to anything more you might post on this subject of Sidereal and the work of Ry Redd. [Although I will continue to use a Tropical chart for my own work for the reason that, as I stated, I have no real use for the Signs of the Zodiac themselves...only as for reference as to placement of astro-influences and Sabian Symbol placement in respect to the Solar year.]

One last thing. I have thought about this previously and now find myself having to face up to it and address it. As we are dealing with a natal chart for the USA, regardless of what date it actually was in the 18th century, should it then not be taken into consideration that, as some over than 225 years have passed, one should consider that any, present day, transiting conjunction to any thing on said natal charts is now some 3 degrees different? Could it be that there is then two points to take into consideration, [for us Sabian Symbol employing astrologers anyways] as that transiting force does still interface with the same symbolism at the same Tropical point, [of which I already stated there is overwhelming evidence of] then to that of the Tropical and to the actual Zodiacal degree in the Sidereal?

If so, then maybe the Part of Transformation has another point some three degrees away[?] Maybe they both need to be taken into consideration?

questions...questions...questions...
 

paneagle7

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Tonight (c11:35 PM EDT) shots were fired at the Mass. Institute of Technology campus, some kind of "active shooter" attack going on as of this time. Not Los Angeles, but-another attack in the Boston area...within a day of the above-poster's vision...

- socialistic anti-american and choas, religous extremism (neptune pisces 7th setting
- The bomb chart is 2:50pm shows Mercury in 8th house chart ruler - 2 bombers, students and neptune 7th - religious (moslems) - ruler of 8th and 1st house (arian scorpion qualities)
- mercury is 23 degrees from sun and mars near 9th cusp in 8th house at 2 degrees - key direction west of shooting
- this w/b 23 minutes driving - this is closer location of manhunt - 23' of longitude
place finder: 42.373600 Long:-71.153 watertown, mass - *(42º25'48" N) - boston lat - 71.11º W long (71º6'36 is boston)
this is 9 degrees of pisces zone longitude, and 12 libra - boston is 6/7 pisces. this is 2.3 degree to west of boston (23 degree using mercury/sun.mars mark) to west of boston - where the killer(s) (8th house merc ruler) is hidden/caught.
- leo sol moon 60th harmonic in 12th house - pride and relate authority issues, hidden agenda, hiding place
(leo sol 9 degree is from 5 virgo rising of shooting = 26 degrees difference - *to west direction 2.6deg,
- moon at 9 degrees leo this sunrise 4/19 on manhunt day
- when the moon last night in aspect to this 12th house sol moon - manhunt ensued, first brother shot - moon trine mercury (ruler)
- noted moon in chart as home of protagonist - is some distance from 8th house cusp, near 0 aries - to 26 gemini = 86 degrees.
- sol of killing chart 60x sun is 27 cancer - from 0 aries is 117 degrees to east direction - 117-71west boston = 46 degrees east long. *chechneya/russia is 45east 43 north (same latitude as boston) - actual original home
- sol (second degree of sun) in pisces today at 9 to 10 9am -
- sol will be aries 3 degree of mercury at 9pm friday tonight - very active news and finding bomber/rat in hiding and end or resolution of events
- sol 60th harmonic was con 4 pisces neptune as first brother died.
 
K

Katydidit

Birth Date:
Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev
July 22, 1993
Dagestan, a province in Russia that borders Chechnya

(cited on TMZ website)
 
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paneagle7

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Birth Date:
Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev
July 22, 1993
Chechnya, Russia

(cited on TMZ website)

chezneya history in early 1993 from WIKIPEDIA -

The independence years of 1991-94 for the "Chechen Republic of Ichkeria" were marked by growing tension with Russia, a declining economy (due both to a Russian economic blockade and due to Dudayev's poor economic policies- described as such even by his own economic minister [130]), and an increasingly unstable and divided internal political scene, with parts of the opposition being armed by Russia (see below) while the government in Groznyi resorting to more and more drastic measures. 90,000 people (mainly Russians and Ukrainians) fled Chechnya during 1991-93 due to fears of, and possibly actual manifestation of ethnic tension (the situation was exacerbated by their lack of incorporation into the Chechen clan system, which protects its members to a degree from crime, as well)

This birth environment often spells out the individual type.
They (levitt research) know that romanians born during chouchescu (68 to 90) have more criminals, and american crime dropped in the 90's a lot and largely due to abortion law of roe wade as children (74 born become youths in 90's (under 25's are far more likely)
- also that pluto went to wiser sagittarius in 93/94. it was end of pluto scorpio in 93 I believe.

(personally, I was born when my father left his work to be independent - and then he went back to same position again with company - I am much more independent than my brothers)
 
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akp124

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First Suspect is dead. Second suspect still on the loose. How would a chart be drawn to see any type of indication of where he is?

Many explosives apparently found in multiple homes in Watertown, MA.
 

haj

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Dear PiercetheVeil,
You stated, "No one was ever able to get Edgar to state exactly how far off the two systems were/are from each other...". My previous post states this exactly, "the Egyptian calculations are thirty degrees off" (Reading 2011-3).
The Readings also state that 1936 was the beginning of the Aquarian age. You can safely erect a chart with an ayanamsha of 30 degrees using the year 1937. I use a specific date in 1936 that I have found in the readings for the beginning of the Aquarian age which I will not give here as I do not wish to be attacked for my beliefs again.
I'm not sure why you thought I was a troll - I made no disrespectful, disparaging, or mean-spirited remarks about anyone else's posts. I can't say my message was a flaming one either as I said nothing to anger anyone. I was hoping to have an informative and learning experience with knowledgeable astrologers about the Essential Dignities.
I am well aware of what the readings say about those in the Higher Spheres who were helping Cayce give his readings.
I did not come here to disparage anyone's practice or beliefs. Truth is a growing thing. I don't care if other people use the tropical zodiac, Sabian symbols, Uranian planets, etc. There are many astrological practices which I don't bother to use. The reasons are that I don't need them or that I don't currently understand HOW to use them. I personally use the sidereal zodiac but no longer the traditional Indian ayanamsha. I use what "I" call the Edgar Cayce ayanamsha - 30 degrees for a specific date in 1936.
I did not come here to try to force what I use on anyone else. I am housebound for a few weeks and thought that I would like to visit some forums for serious astrological learning. I thought this was a good one when I saw some posts from others who knew what they were discussing.
Your UNEDITED posts were quite hurtful and mean-spirited.
 

Shanti

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I am quite impressed with what vedic astrologer Alan Anand did say in his blog
in the day of bombing.

http://www.navamsa.com/?p=1567


In this sidereal chart for 2:50 PM EDT on April 15, 2013, in Boston, the ascendant lord Sun in the Aries ninth represents the perpetrator(s). This is likely a mature man (Sun), probably assisted by a younger man (Mars). The notion of two collaborators is reinforced by Moon in Gemini (dual sign) and Moon’s dispositor in Pisces (dual sign)
One or both of the perps will be a university student, possibly in an Engineering (Sun conjunct Mars in ninth) or physics (Sun opposite Saturn in third) program. They have likely been influenced by a zealot (Ketu in Aries ninth) who lives elsewhere than Boston

Not only did he spot that they were two persons one younger and one older.
As sun and Mars. He did also tune in to the fact that the chart represent 9th house aries theme. Which express the fact that the man were possible students. Possibly engineering.

And in the latest news I read the older brother was in fact a technical student
(Anand in his blogg did say engineering). which had taken a pause in his studies for concentrating on boxing ( aries).
The younger man was a student as well, and did wrestling (aries).

Impressing.

My own reflection further goes to the nakshatra (lunar mansion) of the chart ruler sun, and mars:

( The nakshatra (lunar mansion) Ashwini gives further details.
This nakshatra have as it's rulers the ashwini kumaris Twin Brothers, who were healers. This details the Medical studies of the younger brother here).
As he nakshatras can give the details that otherwise not seen in delination.

Honestly I haven't payed that much attention to event charts as I thought that one could not get that much detailed information in them.

It seems that I have to reconsider and do more study in that area.

The bombing event sidereal chart shown below:
 

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dr. farr

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Interesting (in light of AW member Haj's refernce to the Egyptian calculations, posted sbove) that the little known Alcyone ayanamsa (which I have discussed in posts elsewhere on AW) is 30 degrees from the tropical zodiac, whereas the currently used Lahiri and Fagan-Bradley ayananamsa's are around 24/25 degrees from the tropical.
 

piercethevale

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I am quite impressed with what vedic astrologer Alan Anand did say in his blog
in the day of bombing.

http://www.navamsa.com/?p=1567




Not only did he spot that they were two persons one younger and one older.
As sun and Mars. He did also tune in to the fact that the chart represent 9th house aries theme. Which express the fact that the man were possible students. Possibly engineering.

And in the latest news I read the older brother was in fact a technical student
(Anand in his blogg did say engineering). which had taken a pause in his studies for concentrating on boxing ( aries).
The younger man was a student as well, and did wrestling (aries).

Impressing.

My own reflection further goes to the nakshatra (lunar mansion) of the chart ruler sun, and mars:

( The nakshatra (lunar mansion) Ashwini gives further details.
This nakshatra have as it's rulers the ashwini kumaris Twin Brothers, who were healers. This details the Medical studies of the younger brother here).
As he nakshatras can give the details that otherwise not seen in delination.

Honestly I haven't payed that much attention to event charts as I thought that one could not get that much detailed information in them.

It seems that I have to reconsider and do more study in that area.

The bombing event sidereal chart shown below:

That IS interesting.
I noticed that you are using a time that is a bit shy of the mark, though. Although I don't know much about the technique you're employing and as you are using whole house/whole sign here, I might assume that an accurate time is of little consideration to you...as it being a difference of just a few minutes.

What I do find so intriguing with the time you have used for the event is that the Asc, is in the 10th degree of Leo [09* Leo 07']. This is because of what I noted earlier about using a natal chart for the USA that is almost 237 years old and possibly having to consider everything has shifted three degrees...because the N. Node on July 4th, 1776 for Philadelphia [True Node] was at 06* Leo 35' at the zero hour [12:00:01 am] on that day.

Maybe you Siderealists [cool sounding title] will make some inroads here into the minds of the Tropicalists [sounds a bit too much like "Capitalists", to me...].
Thanks for sharing this.
May the Truth be revealed.
OM Tat Sat OM
ptv
 

piercethevale

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OH! What was I thinking?
This chart is fully adjusted to Sidereal and thus the Node thing I mentioned doesn't apply. [as i was thinking of adjustment for only the last 230 and some odd years. My bad.]

....hmmmmm....?

...well, I might just take it as a SIGN! [as that's the way IT works in my life...weird little signs like that.]
 
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dr. farr

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Notice (in the posted sidereal chart) that the always-sinister Dragon's Tail is the most elevated factor in the chart(posited in sidereal Aries as well!), and that the Nodes themselves are atmakaraka (ie, the planet or other active factor in a given chart which has the highest degrees in any sign; Jaimini Vedic astrology considers atmakaraka to be especially significant, or the most "special", factor in any chart)
 

piercethevale

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Dear PiercetheVeil,
You stated, "No one was ever able to get Edgar to state exactly how far off the two systems were/are from each other...". My previous post states this exactly, "the Egyptian calculations are thirty degrees off" (Reading 2011-3).
The Readings also state that 1936 was the beginning of the Aquarian age. You can safely erect a chart with an ayanamsha of 30 degrees using the year 1937. I use a specific date in 1936 that I have found in the readings for the beginning of the Aquarian age which I will not give here as I do not wish to be attacked for my beliefs again.
I'm not sure why you thought I was a troll - I made no disrespectful, disparaging, or mean-spirited remarks about anyone else's posts. I can't say my message was a flaming one either as I said nothing to anger anyone. I was hoping to have an informative and learning experience with knowledgeable astrologers about the Essential Dignities.
I am well aware of what the readings say about those in the Higher Spheres who were helping Cayce give his readings.
I did not come here to disparage anyone's practice or beliefs. Truth is a growing thing. I don't care if other people use the tropical zodiac, Sabian symbols, Uranian planets, etc. There are many astrological practices which I don't bother to use. The reasons are that I don't need them or that I don't currently understand HOW to use them. I personally use the sidereal zodiac but no longer the traditional Indian ayanamsha. I use what "I" call the Edgar Cayce ayanamsha - 30 degrees for a specific date in 1936.
I did not come here to try to force what I use on anyone else. I am housebound for a few weeks and thought that I would like to visit some forums for serious astrological learning. I thought this was a good one when I saw some posts from others who knew what they were discussing.
Your UNEDITED posts were quite hurtful and mean-spirited.

I'm sorry you took them that way...I can not find anything "mean" about what I said other than because of my own increasing suspicion due to the way and manner my own work and writings have been attacked and disparaged over the last ten years I had a "reactionary" moment and said that I had a suspicion that you MIGHT BE a "troll". Also, I didn't "edit" anything out, I only corrected my grammar, punctuation and clarified that last paragraph I referred to. You're accusing me of something of which you have no evidence of...and there never was any, [now, you are coming off a bit "trollish".].
I did give an explanation for why I posted what, and as in the manner of how, I did in my initial reply... and I did apologize.

I'll check all my books on Edgar Cayce again and try to find the reading that you are quoting...but I believe i only have partial quotations from that reading...and that is from a number of books that I have. I don't recall ever seeing a complete record of what was said in reading 2011-3...in fact I'm not sure if a transcript of any complete reading was ever made public at all. They were, for the very most part, private readings.

I do have quite an extensive library of books on Cayce and of authors that wrote about him, the readings, etc., not to mention years of ARE monthly Journals and newsletters...along with a copy of the "Black Book"...of which you may be familiar with. [A compendium of Cayce readings on subjects from A to Z, for easier research and reference for anyone interested in a particular subject.] MY mother and father were avid followers, believers, in the readings of Edgar Cayce and they managed to compile quite a collection of books since the 1940's, when they became interested in His work...and with my mothers passing two years ago I became heir to it. [and there are boxes of books yet, for me to unpack.]

If you found my questioning the rulership of Jupiter and the house system abrasive, well that's just what you'll be experiencing in an internet forum, haj. Best get used to it now. If you're that 'thin-skinned', you may want to 'toughen-up', try not to take things so personal. If you can't, or don't want to, you may want to reconsider joining any discussions here or in any other forum of any kind on the internet.
That's just the way it is...straight up.

I, once again, would like to say that I look forward to your posts and what I might learn from them concerning Sidereal Astrology.

[and as I have combed through the entire book of Margaret Gammon on Edgar, I found a number of excerpts from reading 2o11-3 but nothing stating what you have quoted. She did state that He could never be pinned down to anything exact and even was [what seemed to be] deliberately elusive about it. I have noticed that what she said about researching the 45 birth charts that they are/were able to produce from the readings {apparently there were only that many that gave an actual birth time in their inquiry} is that she could of been bending what Cayce said to apply to the Tropical method and seems to have neglected {disregarded} the Sidereal evidence. I don't have those 45 charts, I have but a few, but every one of those seems to me could have been meant either way as to what Cayce said as to what Astrological sign was of influence as to that subject that was being addressed.]

I do have a couple of friends that are long standing members of the ARE and live in Virginia Beach and that also have access to more info than I have presently [unopened boxes withstanding] and know some of the staff of the ARE...maybe they can shed some light on this.

Meanwhile...peace out...enjoy your visits here, no one is going to attack you personally, if they do the Mods here are very experienced and have no tolerance for such behavior, they will pay the price if they do so.

OM Shanti, ptv
 
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