Being born on cusp

helahell

New member
What do you think about cusps? I was born last day of Scorpio/first of Saggittarius. Whole life I considered myself a Scorpio, but it turned out I'm Saggitarius. Do you think I should look at both signs while interpreting or just focus on Sag?
 
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JUPITERASC

Well-known member
What do you think about cusps? I was born last day of Scorpio/first of Saggittarius. Whole life I considered myself a Scorpio, but it turned out I'm Saggitarius. Do you think I should look at both signs while interpreting or just focus on Sag?

for WHOLE SIGN HOUSES - the degree of the house/place is determined from the ascending degree
thus
each whole sign house
has a specific degree
aka sensitive point
- the original meaning of the word "..cusp.."

which later got changed
to mean the "..border.."
or "..start.." of a house

The idea that whole sign houses have no "..cusps.." aka sensitive degree or points - is erroneous :)

Manilius makes this clear in the "Astronomica"

Also, I found sth like "cusp of revolution" - do you think it's legit?
(btw: I have Moon, Mercury and Pluto in Scorpio, Mercury and Pluto conjunct Sun and Pluto is my dominant planet, so that can explain why I feel Scorpio)
for another perspective
calculate your chart using WESTERN SIDEREAL ZODIAC and compare



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Osamenor

Staff member
How far into Sagittarius is your Sun?

If it's 0° 29' or less, you were born while the disc of the Sun was still partway in Scorpio. That makes you literally a cusp baby: your Sun is part Sag and part Scorpio. If it's 30 minutes or more into Sagittarius, you're a full Sagittarius: you were born after its transition was complete.

Here's a video by Steven Forrest explaining it:

 

Osamenor

Staff member
Sideral shows Scorpio, but it changed most of my signes (except two).

Everything in a sidereal chart is 23° - 24° earlier than in the tropical version. That puts everything one sign earlier unless it's in the last 6 to 7 degrees of its sign.

It was 0degree 27 minutes in Sag so as I understand it was on a cusp - so should I consider both signes? How to interpret it?

Watch Forrest's video. He gives a good answer.
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Sideral shows Scorpio, but it changed most of my signes (except two).
so SIDEREAL SHOWS SCORPIO - that's interesting
for beginners exploring Sidereal Astrology :smile:

Vedic astrology is Sidereal
however
there are also Western Sidereal Astrologers as well
for example

KENNETH BOWSER is a Western Sidereal Astrologer
at
https://www.westernsiderealastrology.com/
and
Jim Eshelman
https://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?t=3


It was 0degree 27 minutes in Sag so as I understand it was on a cusp - so should I consider both signes? How to interpret it?

there's no agreement amongst astrologers
so
study and decide for yourself :)
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JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Sideral shows Scorpio, but it changed most of my signes (except two).
It was 0degree 27 minutes in Sag so as I understand it was on a cusp - so should I consider both signes? How to interpret it?
Sun travel being ONE DEGREE DAILY
THEN
Time of birth would need to be accurate to within twelve - fourteen hours
:)

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sentR89day

Well-known member
Maybe I'm being pedantic, but once you've figured out your precise time, you are the precise sign that is the sign. You are precisely a Sagittarius.
It sounds like you're a Sagittarius with a Plutonic touch to you. As for reading monthly astrology readings, I usually read for my rising sign, not my Sun sign.
 

Claire19

Well-known member
We are only ever one sun sign. There can be planets in neighbouring signs such as Venus and Mercury which may aspect that sun sign which gives a fuller picture. Even 0 degrees which my mother was, in Gemini. In later years she may have been born under late Taurus as the signs do change a bit. She for instance had Mercury in Taurus. No such thing as a cusp sign.
 
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