Astrology Shows People are Individuals Not Groups

CapAquaPis

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Uran finally stations Direct in tropical :taurus: on January 18, 2022, square Saturn in :aquarius:
And on Jan 2 and 30, 2022, it's important to know the sun and moon were conjunct Pluto in 25-27' Capricorn in the degree of Mars and I knew right away 2022 will be another awful year to fathom: 2020 began with shiny bright optimism to fell apart in 2021 from COVID to Trump raid to the Floyd riots and we're holding our breath on the grand finale of 2023 and we need an epilogue to learn our most important life lesson from last Jan's triple threat.
 

IleneK

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Ronald Reagan and John F Kennedy are arguably the 2 of the most influential presidents in living memory (since 1950) to made our country lean to the social Liberal and fiscal conservative direction to where we are today. JFK was a Gemini sun and Virgo moon while Reagan was an Aquarius sun and Taurus moon (two square sun-moon positions), but when will there be a Libra president to enhance social Liberalism and fiscal conservatism without the anti-poor class and SJWoke rhetoric we're burned out from: Kamala Harris - currently vice president...and first woman president if he's elected or I guess takes Biden's place if he decides not to run for reelection (and her opposing Aries moon). The Air signs Gemini, Libra and Aquarius have an innovative and radical nature, but what if the next presidential election has the double Aquarius Sarah Palin (GOP) as her opponent vs the Democrat?

I think we might consider LBJ as arguably the most influential president who actually moved forward the social liberal agenda, the Great Society with aid to education and the arts, urban and rural development, and public services, the War on Poverty, Social Security Amendments of 1965, which resulted in the creation of Medicare and Medicaid. Not to deny Kennedy's aspirations, but he didn't live long enough to do anything. LBJ did more than carry out Kennedy's ideas. They were also his own sentiments.
 

waybread

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It depends whom you ask. Astrologers run the gamut from fatalism/determinism to free will. A popular saying is, "The stars impel but they do not compel.

Re: the recent US midterm elections and the OP premise. People may be individuals, but they tend to vote in groups that can demand strict allegiance.

Ilene, I agree about LBG. He became very unpopular re: the Vietnam War, but a lot of key legislation was passed during his presidency.
 

david starling

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Nixon looms large: Ended the Vietnam War, ENDED the DRAFT(!), recognized Red China; and, HUGELY expanded the Food Stamp Program, which was instituted by JFK and signed into law by LBJ, and which has saved mi!lions from starvation.
 
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CapAquaPis

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I think we might consider LBJ as arguably the most influential president who actually moved forward the social liberal agenda, the Great Society with aid to education and the arts, urban and rural development, and public services, the War on Poverty, Social Security Amendments of 1965, which resulted in the creation of Medicare and Medicaid. Not to deny Kennedy's aspirations, but he didn't live long enough to do anything. LBJ did more than carry out Kennedy's ideas. They were also his own sentiments.

And any takers for Bill Clinton? The 9 years of peace, progress and prosperity unmatched in any decade in US history since its independence in 1776. The Uranus in Aquarius conjunct the US' natal moon, then there's Saturn in Taurus in the late 1990s before the new millennia squared each other and they are indeed Aquarian planets. He borrowed from Aquarian sun president Reagan on reduction of government spending and fiscal conservative policies. But, be in mind the US wasn't in a cold war (started after WW1 and revived after WW2, ended on Christmas Day 1991 when the USSR disbanded) nor war on terror (began on 9/11 in 2001 by the WTC and Pentagon terror attacks, said to either ended on Leap Year Day 2020 or 9/11 2021 in regards to withdrawal of US troops from Iraq and Afghanistan respectively) to not overspend on its global military outreach during Clinton's tenure.
 

waybread

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Nixon looms large: Ended the Vietnam War, ENDED the DRAFT(!), recognized Red China; and, HUGELY expanded the Food Stamp Program, which was instituted by JFK and signed into law by LBJ, and which has saved mi!lions from starvation.
Not to mention Title IX, which opened doors for women athletes.

Sort of like a character in Greek tragedy who is basically noble, but brought down by a fatal character flaw.


Neptune opposite sun: identity tending either to poor sense of self or over-compensating with megalomania. Pluto is a real focalizer for both good and ill.
 

david starling

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Nixon also cared for the less affluent working people, and renters. He tried to establish a national rent-control program, and a federal jobs program, neither of which was able to prevail.

While the Draft was still in effect, he made student deferment easier to get by rescinding the 4 year limit on staying in college; and, instituted the Draft lottery, which helped a lot of those who otherwise would have been drafted (myself included)
 
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CapAquaPis

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I personally know 1963 Pisces sun people who are a married couple, they will have a stronger Jupiter reaction based on it being their traditional ruling planet, and in that year (Sep 1963), Jupiter was really close in their sign when they were born (my own natal Jupiter conjunct Mars and Saturn in 3rd when I was born on Feb 15, 1980).
 

CapAquaPis

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If anyone has a Saturn in Aquarius transit their descendant or they were born with a natal placement of Saturn in DSC in that traditional ruler sign, you're having a real hard time. And for anyone having any transit Saturn DC or their natal Saturn in 7th, they're having life crises and complications. My earliest memories of depression was in early and again late 1990 when I had my first Saturn opposite ASC, and the 2nd time was early and late 2019. The period of 1990-92 soured me when I reached adolescence (conjunct my modern ruler sign Uranus in Capricorn from 1988-95) and esp. in 2019-21 during the COVID pandemic (conjunct Jupiter in Dec 2020). And Saturn conjunct my Aquarius sun-moon in 1993-95 (later Uranus takes its place in 1995-2003 I believe could help me get through my high school years, but not in community college) and currently in 2020-22 (I lost my Mom last year).
 

CapAquaPis

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Every year (Nov 16-18 period), the Sun transits my natal Uranus in 25' Scorpio that rules my sun sign Aquarius. And around Feb 8-10, the Sun transits my natal Moon in 20' Aquarius, the two most important and significant markers of my life and personality are found in these annual transits as a person .


 

CapAquaPis

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And more on Jupiter: a hole several times the size of Earth was discovered and what woulda caused a large hole? Was there a comet larger than the broken-up parts of Comet Shoemaker-Levy in the summer of 1994 observed from higher-magnitude telescopes? Jupiter in Jun, Jul and Aug 1994 was in Scorpio (the 6' then retrograde to 4' and direct back to 6'). Scientists long studied and agreed that the planet Jupiter has prevented 1000s of possible comet collisions with Earth that would trigger mass extinctions in our natural history. Or something occurred during the Great Conjunction with Saturn on Dec 21, 2020 to cause a mysterious hole? It's not possible for a natural satellite or moon orbiting Jupiter to be bigger than Titan, the largest moon in the solar system, which orbits Saturn to collide with Jupiter some time ago. Jupiter was in my natal sign Aquarius last year, 2009, 1997 and 1985 so far ... and would anything impacting Jupiter would be a problem for Aquarians in years 1997 and 2021 to be harder on them than 2009 (Great Recession, er "2nd place") and 1985? (cusp Cap/Aqua new moon on Ronald Reagan's record electoral college presidential re-election on inauguration day in the US).

 

CapAquaPis

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And the relationship with one's mother based on their sun sign (from an Aquarius sun POV, parents..."Mom and Dad" doesn't always apply to all children).


And her moon sign matched mine: Aquarius moon mother (seems to be both Aquarius and Pisces, "Ophiuchuan?") and child (son, although is genderfluid).


My "Aqua moon" mother never was "a friend", just a parental authority figure who vowed to not abuse me, then she was worrisome about me because I have autism. And her parenting method is "Pis moon" of her: I wasn't a pampered person, sometimes I don't get what I wanted, an important lesson children should be learning anyway, and I was given a fair level of boundaries to follow, this is typical of Taurus sun people (and in sidereal, Aries sun) who are disciplinarians.
 

CapAquaPis

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On Feb 15, 2022: my 42nd year-Uranus (esp it's my sun sign ruler) was in 10' Taurus: the solar degree of my Mom's birthdate and she passed away on Easter sunday 2021. To thought about her on the very day she brought me into the world and I was with my Dad to celebrate being "21 again" in a year you have to show your card to prove you're vaccinated against COVID.
 

CapAquaPis

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And my natal Uranus opposition in spring and autumn 2024, and again in spring 2025 in it's 84 year orbit around the sun, almost an average life span of a human, however, we have a longer life expectancy than ancient times or even a century ago, and it's said based on observation on old movies, TV shows and photos that teen-agers in the 1940s-60s appeared to look "older" than middle-aged adults have a "younger than they are face" in the 2000s-20s.
 

CapAquaPis

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Yesterday (Nov 18th) is my 42nd Sun transit natal Uranus which is currently in retrograde in 16' Taurus or halfway the sign it's been in since spring 2018 and will remain there for 3 more years (until 2025). From the internet, the life lesson based on this aspect (and my 42nd birthday exactly 9 months ago).

*The Sabian Symbols - Taurus 16-30. PHASE 46 (TAURUS 16°): AN OLD TEACHER FAILS TO INTEREST HIS PUPILS IN TRADITIONAL KNOWLEDGE. KEYNOTE: The inadequacy of past knowledge in time of crisis. During this Act One of the cyclic process the emergence of new developments is emphasized.* Note my birthday Feb. 15th is the 46th day of the western Christian solar calendar year.

And the sabian symbol for 10' Taurus or phase 40: is A RED CROSS NURSE. To have family and public school teachers (2 of them became family friends): Back in the 1980s-90s, most autism research was from an infamous charlatan and fraud Dr. Bruno Bettleheim who never had a certified PHD in the field of research regarding the therapy of Autistic children and adults, his biographical research after his death in 1990 and a novel exposed him in 1997 (25 years ago to be exact), the entire psychiatric and educational science on Autism spectrum disorders had to be rearranged in the 2000s and 10s.
 

IleneK

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Yesterday (Nov 18th) is my 42nd Sun transit natal Uranus which is currently in retrograde in 16' Taurus or halfway the sign it's been in since spring 2018 and will remain there for 3 more years (until 2025). From the internet, the life lesson based on this aspect (and my 42nd birthday exactly 9 months ago).

*The Sabian Symbols - Taurus 16-30. PHASE 46 (TAURUS 16°): AN OLD TEACHER FAILS TO INTEREST HIS PUPILS IN TRADITIONAL KNOWLEDGE. KEYNOTE: The inadequacy of past knowledge in time of crisis. During this Act One of the cyclic process the emergence of new developments is emphasized.* Note my birthday Feb. 15th is the 46th day of the western Christian solar calendar year.

And the sabian symbol for 10' Taurus or phase 40: is A RED CROSS NURSE. To have family and public school teachers (2 of them became family friends): Back in the 1980s-90s, most autism research was from an infamous charlatan and fraud Dr. Bruno Bettleheim who never had a certified PHD in the field of research regarding the therapy of Autistic children and adults, his biographical research after his death in 1990 and a novel exposed him in 1997 (25 years ago to be exact), the entire psychiatric and educational science on Autism spectrum disorders had to be rearranged in the 2000s and 10s.
Thank you for this. Are these excerpts from Rudhyar’s The Astrological Mandela?
 

CapAquaPis

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Thank you for this. Are these excerpts from Rudhyar’s The Astrological Mandela?
Yes it is, I didn't quote the author to give them the credit due for providing astrological input. Autism was destined in my natal chart from Mercury was in its' fall degree of 13' Pisces smudged between a strong 20' Moon, 26' sun and 29' SN Aquarius, and a prominent 0' Pallas, 3' MC, and 7' venus in Aries.
 
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