Astrology of the Moscow Murders

JUPITERASC

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interesting factors/curious co-incidences :)

Last words said by cops before they kill :mars:someone:
1. We are here to help you
2. We don't wanna hurt you
3. Stop defending yourself aka stop resisting
has been highlighted/said before many times.
"..I am here to help you.." who says this? A police officer :)

Pings:
telecommunications expert and former electrical engineer Ben Levitan,
who has analyzed cellphone data for the well-known Adnan Syed case
featured in the “..Serial..” podcast, told the Idaho Statesman
"..The best the state can say is that:

this phone was in a 27-square-mile area
- that includes the crime scene - 12 times..”


video: The wellness check and the dog inquiry

The wellness check and the dog inquiry were both from 2300 white ave
- wording was about locating the dog that got taken to the shelter.
Very specific
- as Murphy was just taken to the shelter
- and this call :mercury:came from White Ave
- curious who made the call
- as their was a wellness check just before the dog call happened
- to the same location that the call came for about the dog.

- that White Street location is pretty close to that gas station

- where the camera caught the Elantra on tape


- The white Elantra on the mobile Exxon footage
was ON WHITE AVENUE traveling west toward 1122 King !!!
The camera was from the other side of the gas station, not the highway 8 side.
Another huge White Avenue connection!!!

White Ave is where Jack and Adam’s house is


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JUPITERASC

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With so many current and previous chapter members - it would be easy to set anyone up to be the fall guy.
These Fraternities and Sororities have more power than meets the eye.
They’re a part of the elites. They’re involved with FreeMasonry and Mormons.
SOMETHING TO PONDER :)


It is public record. DYLAN MORTENSEN COMES FROM A MORMON FAMILY!
It's a cult. We don't know if she was active in the church
but that is a huge family and it is connected by Mormonism - that's significant
DMs uncle - Andrew Clifton Mortensen was a Mormon & he didn't live to be very old

- wonder what happened to him - born Washington DC 3/9/1975 - 12/27/2011
- so died:saturn: in his 30's what was it a car accident?:mars:
Brother Brent Mortensen is the father of Dylan Mortensen

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"..1. Here is a now-deleted VSCO post delving into the psychology of one of the two (2) unharmed roommates.
A text message that was sent from her Dad in August '20, and posted publicly to social media..."



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Prescient quote from early Mormon elder Heber C. Kimball:
“..When it is necessary that blood should be shed, we should be as ready to do that as to eat an apple..”

Dylan Mortensen, one of the two surviving roommates
- great grandfather’s name is Heber J. Grant Mortensen, named after Heber C. Kimball.


Hannah Cleere's family lives in Provo, Utah now, too. They are also Mormon.

Her dad went to college Univ of Idaho and law school in Pullman.

HANNAH CLEERE OBITUARY


There's definitely some cult vibes going on. I've wondered if the Moscow Murders
were a part of some sort of initiation, to prove oneself worthy of a fraternity.
DM sold her truck soon after November 13, 2022?! This is very suspicious.



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ElenaJ

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Reading all the confusing info we have on this case, I asked myself... Who is, or who are, the killer(s)?

The chart at first glance shouldn't be read, with the very last second of the very last degree on the ascendent.
On further consideration, I'm holding it valid and I'll explain why.

One basic consideration is the ascendent represents the victims, at 29 degrees it shows the end of their lives.
Entering asteroid Scheat, misfortune and death, it is at exactly 29degrees pisces, in the 8th house of death.
Ascendent ruled by Leo, very well describes the type of life these young adults were living. Showy, fun loving, egotistical, self centred, party lovers.
Sun is in the 6th house, which rules among other things, tenants.
And the victims, with exception of visiting Ethan, were all tenants in the house.
Asteroid Algorab, violent death, squares the sun exactly from the 2nd house.
Algorab is the equivalent of mars and Saturn.

The 7th house is the murderer, or murderers, Saturn.
Saturn strong by sign opposes the ascendent.

The murderer is also mars, especially murder by stabbing.
Sun's last aspect was a trine to mars, approximately 3degrees, or 3 months, ago.

Rulers of the 8th of death are Neptune (drugs and alcohol ) and Jupiter both in the 8th.
For the victims, the 8th is also the house of loans, as well as sex and death.

In the 7th is also Venus, ruler of the 2nd of the victim's money and possessions (drugs?).

The midpoint of Neptune and Jupiter, is POF and Scheat. All in the 8th house.

Also inserted asteroid Procyon (Procyon has a Mars-Mercury nature and therefore makes people hasty, jealous, pig-headed. But it also confers will-power and ability to put thoughts and plans into action.) In the 11th house exactly opposing pluto of the underground, and inconjunct Saturn.

Mercury in the 5th of fun and casual sex, rules the 11th of friends. And is conjunct Tantalus, that which we desire but cannot reach.

Moon strong in cancer in the 11th of friends opposing Tantalus and mercury.

The chart's moon (inspiration for doing the chart, sparked by some connection with the answer ), lies at 10 cancer.
Xana's mother's moon in cancer for the noon chart is 13 cancer.
Xana's sun is at 13 cancer.

We still don't have any DOB for Dylan.

This chart seems to paint an accurate picture of the event.
So who is the killer?

The Part of Death is at 10 Taurus, sextile moon and mars is at the midpoint.

Mars is in the 10th house. Why?
The 10th ruler is Venus, in the 7th of the murderer.
The 10th rules the mother of the victims.
The 11th rules the mother's money, ruled by mercury with tantalus.

So, inserting asteroid Dylan, there are actually two asteroids with her name.
One is at 29 gemini 54, exact almost to the second in the degree of the ascendent.
The other is at 2 degrees pisces in the 7th of the murderer, near Venus of the mother.

The 3rd house is also ruled by Venus, the house of communications, phone calls, talking, socialising (libra) on social media.
Did the victims talk too much, bringing about their death? Talk about something they should not have talked about?
South Node is in the 3rd.
The 3rd is also automobiles. Did the murderer arrive by car and become the killer in the 7th?
Moon opposing mercury, their money. Earned through 5th house business matters (Capricorn ). (Prostitution?).

So could the murderer be Venus, either a mother, or authority figure (10th)... or a neighbour (3rd)?

Sun also rules the 12th, so these victims were their own worst enemy.
The 12th also rules illicit, undercover activities.

And what is Dylan doing in the 7th of the killer?

Could these murders have been carried out during the night, by a woman, or women?

Aquarius on the 7th ruled by Saturn indicates an older person. Slim, dark. Independent. Original. Scholarly. Detached. Droopy shoulders. Not particularly masculine or feminine.

Sound familiar?
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JUPITERASC

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Reading all the confusing info we have on this case, I asked myself... Who is, or who are, the killer(s)?
The chart at first glance shouldn't be read, with the very last second of the very last degree on the ascendent.
On further consideration, I'm holding it valid and I'll explain why.


One basic consideration is the ascendent represents the victims, at 29 degrees it shows the end of their lives.
Entering asteroid Scheat, misfortune and death, it is at exactly 29degrees pisces, in the 8th house of death.
Ascendent ruled by Leo, very well describes the type of life these young adults were living. Showy, fun loving, egotistical, self centred, party lovers.
Sun is in the 6th house, which rules among other things, tenants.
And the victims, with exception of visiting Ethan, were all tenants in the house.
Asteroid Algorab, violent death, squares the sun exactly from the 2nd house.
Algorab is the equivalent of mars and Saturn.

The 7th house is the murderer, or murderers, Saturn.
Saturn strong by sign opposes the ascendent.

The murderer is also mars, especially murder by stabbing.
Sun's last aspect was a trine to mars, approximately 3degrees, or 3 months, ago.

Rulers of the 8th of death are Neptune (drugs and alcohol ) and Jupiter both in the 8th.
For the victims, the 8th is also the house of loans, as well as sex and death.

In the 7th is also Venus, ruler of the 2nd of the victim's money and possessions (drugs?).

The midpoint of Neptune and Jupiter, is POF and Scheat. All in the 8th house.

Also inserted asteroid Procyon (Procyon has a Mars-Mercury nature and therefore makes people hasty, jealous, pig-headed. But it also confers will-power and ability to put thoughts and plans into action.) In the 11th house exactly opposing pluto of the underground, and inconjunct Saturn.

Mercury in the 5th of fun and casual sex, rules the 11th of friends. And is conjunct Tantalus, that which we desire but cannot reach.

Moon strong in cancer in the 11th of friends opposing Tantalus and mercury.

The chart's moon (inspiration for doing the chart, sparked by some connection with the answer ), lies at 10 cancer.
Xana's mother's moon in cancer for the noon chart is 13 cancer.
Xana's sun is at 13 cancer.

We still don't have any DOB for Dylan.

This chart seems to paint an accurate picture of the event.
So who is the killer?

The Part of Death is at 10 Taurus, sextile moon and mars is at the midpoint.

Mars is in the 10th house. Why?
The 10th ruler is Venus, in the 7th of the murderer.
The 10th rules the mother of the victims.
The 11th rules the mother's money, ruled by mercury with tantalus.

So, inserting asteroid Dylan, there are actually two asteroids with her name.
One is at 29 gemini 54, exact almost to the second in the degree of the ascendent.
The other is at 2 degrees pisces in the 7th of the murderer, near Venus of the mother.

The 3rd house is also ruled by Venus, the house of communications, phone calls, talking, socialising (libra) on social media.
Did the victims talk too much, bringing about their death? Talk about something they should not have talked about?
South Node is in the 3rd.
The 3rd is also automobiles. Did the murderer arrive by car and become the killer in the 7th?
Moon opposing mercury, their money. Earned through 5th house business matters (Capricorn ). (Prostitution?).

So could the murderer be Venus, either a mother, or authority figure (10th)... or a neighbour (3rd)?

Sun also rules the 12th, so these victims were their own worst enemy.
The 12th also rules illicit, undercover activities.

And what is Dylan doing in the 7th of the killer?

Could these murders have been carried out during the night, by a woman, or women?

Aquarius on the 7th ruled by Saturn indicates an older person. Slim, dark. Independent. Original. Scholarly. Detached. Droopy shoulders. Not particularly masculine or feminine.

Sound familiar?
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and
after re-reading the affidavit :)
it says
- Suspect Vehicle re-entered area at 4:04AM
- drove past house, turned around behind 500 Queen Rd
- drove back and stopped in front of house
- maybe tried to park
- drove to end of road
- made a 3 point turn and drove by house again.

The absolute EARLIEST killer could have parked the car behind the house was 4:10-4:12AM
- at the EARLIEST :)
and
MAYBE not until 4:15AM. :)
And we all know he left at 4:17AM
having ACTED ALONE - having killed four young healthy resisting adults in two minutes
leaving no bloody footprints while exiting front door carrying large bloody sheathless knife

- this isn't adding up


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uranianplutonian

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They call this a special Lunar Year that occurs once in a hundred - or thousand - years.
Why is it a special Lunar Year?

The rituals are real.
Initiations through rituals are real
but the media :mercury:won’t cover it because they are owned by these same entities.
It’s so much deeper than people realize.
100%. They're all in bed together.

Both surviving room mates have Evaporated
nor do we hear them, their names, at all
Not on the internet, not on TV or Journalistic mediums:mercury:

Conspiracy with the police and university is beginning to make more sense $$$
All of a sudden, the media and journalists are respecting people's boundaries and privacy. Amazing!

White Ave is where Jack and Adam’s house is
Which Jack? 😅
 

uranianplutonian

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Figured I would put all the horary’s on one page, like you said ElenaJ, something is familiar.
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Here's mine too, asking if Jack S is the murderer.
Asteroid Iris –> represents Delta Tau Delta (fraternity that Jack S belonged to)
Asteroid Diana –> represents Xana - "The origin of the Asturian word xana is unclear, though some scholars see it as a derivation from the Latin name for the goddess Diana." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xana)
 

JUPITERASC

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All of a sudden, the media and journalists are respecting people's boundaries and privacy. Amazing!
New details from "..a source.." :)
wondering
- if Xana fought back that hard she definitely had to of made SOME sound
- some scream
- Something

- definitely would have been screaming when her boyfriend was being killed


- 5th roommate heard these noises - where was the 6th roommate?

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Monk

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Hi Jup,
I hope i'm not going off topic but hazing is coming up a lot, so i thought i would start going through cases from the 1980's to the present day.
The case of Lune Barry Ballou involved spercial drinks that he died from, please read case notes on quote and link:-

"Sigma Nu's pledging process at the University traditionally ended the first week of the spring semester, a week referred to by pledges and active brothers alike as "hell week." An informal initiation party called "hell night" concluded hell week. Attendance at hell night was mandatory for all pledges.


The local chapter scheduled its hell night for the evening of January 24, 1980, and told its pledges, nineteen in all, to be at the fraternity lounge at a certain hour. The pledges understood, according to Sigma Nu pledge James Graham, that they "would be pretty much expected to do a good bit of drinking." Indeed, Barry himself expected to get "bombed."


As you know Parans can be marked by day starts, being sunset sunrise or modern midnight, (as well as actual time) the last point before event would be Sunset, Mercury and Sun are conjunct setting as Sirius Isis is Rising.
Mercury has another name in hermetic alignments being Hermes and connected to Hermes Trimegistus
Graph on next post.
 
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JUPITERASC

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Hi Jup,
I hope i'm not going off topic but hazing is coming up a lot, so i thought i would start going through cases from the 1980's to the present day.
The case of Lune Barry Ballou involved spercial drinks that he died from, please read case notes on quote and link:-
Hi Monk :)
Opal is the thread starter aka OP
here's a comment she posted yesterday
No problem Monk, looking at the fraternity issues, is a part of this.
It would be interesting to see if the murder of Stolz will be similar
to the murders of the four students, or not.

To see similarities, there needs to be comparison.

Moscow, Idaho, USA

Indeed - there may be significant similarities
I'm only looking at drinking as a cause of death, however
i may go back to death due to ritual later, i'll continue tomorrow with link below:-


cheers Monk thankyou
"Sigma Nu's pledging process at the University traditionally ended the first week of the spring semester, a week referred to by pledges and active brothers alike as "hell week." An informal initiation party called "hell night" concluded hell week. Attendance at hell night was mandatory for all pledges.

The local chapter scheduled its hell night for the evening of January 24, 1980, and told its pledges, nineteen in all, to be at the fraternity lounge at a certain hour. The pledges understood, according to Sigma Nu pledge James Graham, that they "would be pretty much expected to do a good bit of drinking." Indeed, Barry himself expected to get "bombed."



As you know Parans can be marked by day starts, being sunset sunrise or modern midnight, (as well as actual time) the last point before event would be Sunset, Mercury and Sun are conjunct setting as Sirius Isis is Rising.
Mercury has another name in hermetic alignments being Hermes and connected to Hermes Trimegistus
Graph on next post.
 

JUPITERASC

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I'm only looking at drinking as a cause of death, however i may go back to death due to ritual later,
i'll continue tomorrow with link below:-
Similarity with the Stone Foltz 2021 hazing death are clear:

"..James Lenaghan Jr passed out after drinking more than a gallon of wine
- fraternity members first placed Lenaghan in a bathtub
- and then left him unconscious on a couch.
He was discovered not breathing :saturn:several hours later
and

an ambulance was called while students unsuccessfully tried to revive him.."

District Attorney Matthew J. Ryan Jr. said:
'..It does strain the imagination that someone on campus did not know this was going on...':)

James F. Lenaghan Jr., 19, of Watertown, died :saturn:22 February 1984 after an initiation ceremony for Zeta Chi,

at an off-campus fraternity house after the fraternity house dinner ceremony - called a spaghetti ritual
An autopsy revealed the cause of death :saturn:was acute alcohol poisoning.
He was found to have a blood-alcohol level of 0.45, more than four times the legal definition for intoxication
which at that time was .10 and has since been lowered to .08.

During a court inquest, it was revealed that Lenaghan during the initiation
had been made to consume about a gallon of wine in 45 minutes.


The fraternity also made pledges eat garbage, sit in a chair that jolted them with a car battery
and lie soaking wet in the snow, and paddled them and branded them on the buttocks

with a coat hanger shaped into Greek letters:mercury:, officials said



"They don't know what to do, they're afraid:saturn: to call 911"
- Venmo payments made the afternoon before and the morning of
- two of K's sorority '..sisters..' swapped that Venmo captioned '..3.30am..'
- which is when that white car first entered the King Rd area!!
One of those sisters was K's '..little..'
and neither of those girls have commented or '..liked..' the Alpha Phi tribute on FB
nor have they made reference to anything on Instagram about the m*rders:mars:.

There are holes in LE's stories
and whilst one or two lies were made to protect the surviving roommates
- like '..they were asleep on the 1st floor..'
but, what was the point of saying that X and E had hours missing in their timeline
and the fact that B and D went out separately and were in bed by 1am?

The PCA says B saw X and E at Sigma Chi until 1.45am
- so she was in the same place and was NOT in bed by 1am
and actually then, where was D?

Zero accusations here just observations and questions :)

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katydid

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Boggles the mind.

Good point about there being no traces of blood outside the house.
So, either someone cleaned themselves up very well inside the house... and how long would that take?
Or, the killer didn't leave the house. The killer was in and remained in the house.
OR maybe they stripped their outer wear and placed it into a backpack upon leaving?
 

JUPITERASC

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Doesn't this UPDATE mean that DM must have seen the body
given that she saw the intruder approaching
and then walking :mercury:away towards the sliding doors?

How to notice someone's eyebrows but fail to see a corpse:saturn: lying in plain sight?

Perhaps BK has luminous eyebrows DM could see them in the gloom :)




seems clearer now
Xana fought :mars:for her life
- Ethan and Xana were awake

Imagine being in the middle of a quadruple murder :mars:scene
and then
saying you thought it was just someone playing with their dog at 4 am.
DM heard everything and knew exactly what was happening.
- there was something sketchy going on at that house
- they needed to take care of some things before calling the police.
- the whole story narrative:mercury: will change when the court dates happen.


Friends definitely contaminated crime:mars: scene on Sunday morning.
How much is the question.
Did they move the knife sheath?
Did they move Ethan?
Did they clean up areas?
So many issues with the kids who arrived before police and EMTs.
There may be charges pressed if kids interfered with crime:mars: scene

There were people fighting, :mars:wrestling and screaming:mars: for their lives in that house.
- story doesn't line up

the affidavit states a ring camera picked up cries/whimpers/a scream:mars: & a loud thump
& that house is 60+ feet away
- so that all had to be very loud

- so no way Dylan didn’t know what was happening & had happened.
- how were the two surviving roommates so clueless
to the sheer horror taking place in the home.


- Xana had to have been screaming:mars:
as she had to watch her boyfriend being slashed :mars:
& stabbed :mars:repeatedly. Xana too, was also attacked and in a struggle :mars:for her life
and was likely screaming:mars:
- Ethan looked out the bedroom door is because even he heard something
or Xana alerted him that something was wrong.
- doesn't add up that screams, :mars:cries and scuffles weren’t heard.
There’s a huge difference between party screams and screams of terror.


Dylan said she heard sounds but was unsure what to make of them.

Yet two, out of the 4 victims, were actually in an intense struggle for their lives
and only little sounds were heard?

Xana had defensive wounds:mars: she was fighting :mars:for her life
- had defensive wounds :mars:all over her hands and fingers.

- almost impossible that DM wouldn't have heard what was going on right across her room
especially because one of the victims was found outside the room


- to not hear what's going on upstairs

Four people murdered :mars:
- some with defensive :mars:wounds
Xana's fingers were nearly sliced :mars:off and she had deep wounds:mars: to her hands.
- and DM just heard a soft cry?
If DM can hear what she thought was Kaylee playing with her dog
she heard all the commotion of FOUR murdered:mars: victims
- carnage was going on in that house. Xana and Ethan fighting:mars: for their live’s

must have very disturbing and noisy.
BK was able to go to his classes the very next day without a scratch or cut on him.

There’s more to this than we are being told.
Frat/sorority involved




Greek life is a gang mentality in all universities that have the fraternities and sororities
drugs, drinking alcohol, sex, sex trafficking, torturing :mars:new associates, stealing and telling lies

has always been a huge part of their SECRET mandatory LIFE STYLE
- with high fees they pay to live and learn this secret society LIFE STYLE.

Why did Ethan withdraw money to pay a friend in the middle of that night?


- all are huge PROFIT money making operations - heavily PROTECTED
because of the huge money making that comes from their secret society LIFE STYLE opperations
since this horrific event happened, there's students and perhaps faculty running scared right now.

Money to the schools comes from sorority and frat members and their alumni.
Big money.
What happens in these "..Greek Row.." houses stays in Greek Row

- that's about to change
Xana’s mom was arrested for trespassing yesterday
- there was an warrant out for her arrest when she did that interview with that news station.

How Much Power Do Sororities Have?

The Dark Truth About The Money Behind Greek Life





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JUPITERASC

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Saturn is in the 3rd too, it’s been there for a while affecting communication.
Shortly after this time Saturn will be in the 2nd.

Brent Kopacka collected knives
- initials also BK :)
was supposedly threatening his room mates
also had a white Elantra
and worked at the college IT dept
strangely the college computer system was down the night of the murders

some speculation Bryan was his get away driver



soldier guy the police SWAT shot dead 15 December 2022
was Brent Kopacka, 37 years old an army airborne veteran
Washington State University Police Department officer utilized lethal force at 3:58 a.m


15 DECEMBER 2022 03:58am
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