Thanks for checking my chart. I noticed you considered the traditional chart ruler for my Ascendant and also Chiron, an eclectic approach. I haven't heard of Chiron in the 5th house associated with being bullied, why is this? are there other houses that could show this possibility when Chiron is there?
I read an article that talk about bullies and bullied kids at school. It is very interesting and I will like to know what astrological aspects make a kid a bully, or being bullied at early school.
I am guessing some aspects:
be a bully:
Strong Mars or Saturn, or aspecting Sun, or ascendant.
Mars in the ascendant, or aries ascendant.
Mars or Saturn in hard aspect with the 11th house, or ruler of the 11th house.
Strong Neptune, or aspecting the Sun or Ascendant... or Pisces ascendant
Chiron in the 5th.
Mars, Saturn or neptune in the 5th, or in hard aspect with the 5th ruler.
I am only guessing. Do you know more?
When I started this thread I saw the charts of two friend who were bullied. Both have Chiron in the 5th, then I saw yours and you have it too.
Chiron in the 5th are emotional wounds that are related with children and creativity... Maybe someone who was bullied and was very hurted(feelings)... then that person has difficult time being sweet with people and relationships when they grow up. They are people that grow up afraid of being hurted again. Or grow up with the anger of being bullied at early school, being cold with the people they love (friends, partners, family, children)... It depends of the Chiron sign.
I was bullied at school, my chart is in my signature.
May I ask how Mars is being afflicted? Mars and Gemini .. Mercury & Mars together are traditionally known to show "evil minds".My father was abully,and an all star in his high school,the ring leader or what not,and he has mars in gemini,and afflicted,
From a Pluto conjunct ascendant native, I co-sign.Its not the strong that hurt,its the weak. sadly,until u learn to use your pluto power, other people will excersize it above u, trying to take or destroy the power what the bullied has. if you dont become your Pluto,others will be your Pluto,because that is the nature of Pluto,execution style.
Haha I had my moments when I was younger too. Ah, childhood ...btw I was bullied and later turned bully though I never insulted put anyone down,rather I just became very very mean and agressive,and intimidating,I hurt when I needed to.
Ah the traditionalist perspective, I've yet to hear anything positive from that. I should mention that I agree bullies are weak. When I dealt with it, they were always in groups. I don't think I became a bully, but I did become mean and aggressive when the situation called for it.
I didn't mention my chart to have it insulted by traditionalists, and they wonder why this forum most often doesn't like their perspective.
I don't know if this is a stupid question.
I'm pretty sure they weren't insulting you! No need to jump to such a conclusion, your last sentence was offensive.
It kind of confused me because half my chart was mentioned in a negative light, and I'm pretty use to it with most traditionalists. I'm glad it wasnt from the perspective of it being my fault, its one of those topics that isnt often discussed well.
Just so were clear on this, are you saying it was my fault or if it was I should be held accountable? Because no one on this forum knows what happened or the context it was in. I fought back, I just never became a bully myself.