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<blockquote data-quote="David Phoenix" data-source="post: 1067864" data-attributes="member: 67566"><p>hi rosegarden,</p><p></p><p>What you describe is a mouthful. My recommendation is to forget anything beyond the basics such as imaginary planets. In reading your own chart stick to the KISS principle. Do not search for answers by filling your chart with imaginary friends.</p><p></p><p>Spend some time thinking about Pisces. What is the symbol? Two fish swimming in different directions yet linked together. What must that be like?</p><p></p><p>How about Sagittarius. A part man, part horse creature with a bow and arrow. It shoots the arrow and chases after it. Thereby finding himself in undiscovered territory.</p><p></p><p>Now rather than trying to chew that entire conglomeration of planets and ASC at once, break it down into manageable chunks. What you have is a first quarter square between the Moon and the Sun. Is the aspect less than 90* or more. If less it is more difficult to integrate because your response is more automatic to the challenges you face surrounding the Moon and Sun. If more then it is a bit easier because you have already faced the main part of the challenge and are now working on integration of the two energies represented by the pair.</p><p></p><p>You can do this for Saturn, Pluto and the Moon as well. You can also look at the Sun and whether it is end of cycle, that is earlier in degree than Saturn / Pluto or beginning cycle where the Sun is at later degree. Or a mix.These things have real and separate meanings.</p><p>Saturn is interpersonal, Pluto is generational. </p><p></p><p>Generally an opening square, first quarter moon, shows a conflict between the parents of the native during pregnancy. The child is of course exposed to this in the womb and may take the side of one parent over the other. This is very deep seated and may reflect your own inner turmoil.</p><p></p><p>Saturn of course represents the universal adult or parent. it is also linked to your own "dark side". You know, like the part Luke Skywalker did not want to face.</p><p></p><p>When the Moon and Saturn are linked by a hard aspect, especially a square, Saturn is telling you to stop whining and crying and GROW UP. Take responsibility for your life and actions. The Moon wants to be a baby forever nestling in the comfort of mommy's womb. With the Saturn conjunction to the Sun this is reinforced. </p><p></p><p>What is the closest square aspect involving a personal planet in your chart. Is it the sun / Moon square or the Moon with either Saturn or Pluto. This is also important. I have found that the closest square involving a personal planet in a person's chart will dominate most of their life struggles. To really understand your chart you must have a deep understanding of the planets. What do they represent? What is their place in your life experience?</p><p></p><p>Pluto will put you in a nuclear furnace and break you down to your constituent atoms so a new you can be reborn from the ashes of the old you. You know like the Phoenix myth.</p><p></p><p>All of this combined is tough to do and will not be accomplished over night but hopefully in your lifetime a lot can be accomplished. </p><p></p><p>Take care,</p><p>David</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="David Phoenix, post: 1067864, member: 67566"] hi rosegarden, What you describe is a mouthful. My recommendation is to forget anything beyond the basics such as imaginary planets. In reading your own chart stick to the KISS principle. Do not search for answers by filling your chart with imaginary friends. Spend some time thinking about Pisces. What is the symbol? Two fish swimming in different directions yet linked together. What must that be like? How about Sagittarius. A part man, part horse creature with a bow and arrow. It shoots the arrow and chases after it. Thereby finding himself in undiscovered territory. Now rather than trying to chew that entire conglomeration of planets and ASC at once, break it down into manageable chunks. What you have is a first quarter square between the Moon and the Sun. Is the aspect less than 90* or more. If less it is more difficult to integrate because your response is more automatic to the challenges you face surrounding the Moon and Sun. If more then it is a bit easier because you have already faced the main part of the challenge and are now working on integration of the two energies represented by the pair. You can do this for Saturn, Pluto and the Moon as well. You can also look at the Sun and whether it is end of cycle, that is earlier in degree than Saturn / Pluto or beginning cycle where the Sun is at later degree. Or a mix.These things have real and separate meanings. Saturn is interpersonal, Pluto is generational. Generally an opening square, first quarter moon, shows a conflict between the parents of the native during pregnancy. The child is of course exposed to this in the womb and may take the side of one parent over the other. This is very deep seated and may reflect your own inner turmoil. Saturn of course represents the universal adult or parent. it is also linked to your own "dark side". You know, like the part Luke Skywalker did not want to face. When the Moon and Saturn are linked by a hard aspect, especially a square, Saturn is telling you to stop whining and crying and GROW UP. Take responsibility for your life and actions. The Moon wants to be a baby forever nestling in the comfort of mommy's womb. With the Saturn conjunction to the Sun this is reinforced. What is the closest square aspect involving a personal planet in your chart. Is it the sun / Moon square or the Moon with either Saturn or Pluto. This is also important. I have found that the closest square involving a personal planet in a person's chart will dominate most of their life struggles. To really understand your chart you must have a deep understanding of the planets. What do they represent? What is their place in your life experience? Pluto will put you in a nuclear furnace and break you down to your constituent atoms so a new you can be reborn from the ashes of the old you. You know like the Phoenix myth. All of this combined is tough to do and will not be accomplished over night but hopefully in your lifetime a lot can be accomplished. Take care, David [/QUOTE]
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