Amanda knox...Capable of being a killer?

astropsychologist

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Does anyone have Amanda Knox's birth time? She's just been sentenced to 26yrs in prison for killing Meredith Kercher. I have her d.o.b. as 9 Jul 1987, born in Seattle, but can't find a time.

At present, all I can see that could indicate this in her chart is her moon (ruler of her sun) conjunct Neptune and Uranus, which could point towards chaotic emotional regulation, confusion around relationships with women (which seems to have emerged during court proceedings), all opposite a stellium of Sun, Venus, Merc in cancer.
 

gemini59

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I would be curious to see her chart. What little I have read about the case it seems like the system just hung her for some bizarre reasons. There appeared to be little evidence.
 

starlink

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I found this in the internet. No time of birth, but a chart done for Sunrise which I have found to be very reliable in most cases:

CHARTS DON'T JUDGE (neither should astrologers:)
A chart simply shows potential and possibilities. Not everybody born on Amanda Knox's birthday will end up in jail, of course. It is up to circumstances and genes, the ‘ tide of time’ (progressions and transits) and a situation how the capabilities, talents and shortcomings will evolve. A chart can’t be used to part right from wrong (as you can see in the cases of sexual abuse – incest for example - where the victim has the same Mars-Pluto connection as the father). A chart shows issues and themes in life, that is it.

This is the chart for sunrise, progressed to the day of the murder with the transits of that day. Her true hour of birth is unknown.
 

gemini59

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Day of the murder:
Solar arcs=solar arc sun square pluto....a power struggle with ego/transformation/death/sex/...a male energy involved in a power struggle.
Solar arc mars sesqui. neptune...there is a deception or delusion from a male or anger.
Solar arc Saturn opposite venus..this implies a loss of a relationship, some sorrow involving a love.

Progressions=sun square pluto
Progressed venus square progressed jupiter=an expanded love, too much emotional/love energy, an exaggeration of this response.
Progressed Venus sesqui Saturn...love with something outside of herself which controls or inhibits
Progressed mars trine pr-saturn=suppressed energy but in a trine usually working hard to achieve.
Progressed mercury conjunct natal sun=thoughts and ego the same or working as one and may be a corollary to her education .
Transits:
Sun trine mercury..very energizing mentally, good for focus
Saturn trine neptune= an unnerving time of uncertainty, dissatisfaction with realities, maybe making dreams a reality. Her Neptune is square her nodes indicating some fate connected to neptune contacts.
Uranus square Saturn...something unexpected challenging her reality. since she has the stellium of moon, uranus, together these would all be affected. In addition, jupiter and pluto are in relative close concert with this energy. This is a lot of energy in sagitarius triggered by Uranus.
Pluto trines Natal jupiter.
The sun is one degree past a conjunct to pluto.
In her natal the sun is inconjunct saturn requiring adjustment to restriction.
Mars is square to Pluto which does increase risk for some intense reactions.
Venus opposite neptune showing an issue with illusion in relationships.
I don't see the propensitiy to murder accept sun square pluto and natal mars square pluto.
 

astropsychologist

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Thanks for that! Sorry for the delay..got no email notification that someone had replied to the post.

I think the sun triggering the solar progression to Pluto as well as the natal mars square pluto is more than enough to suggest her involvement with the murder. If she had nothing at all to do with it, I would assume that neptune would be heavily involved. There doesn't seem enough neptune in the mix to suggest that there was a big misunderstanding and that she was wrongly accused.

Obviously, the sun triggering the natal mars/pluto aspect, doesnt mean she killed anyone that day, but it does suggest some sort of aggressive/sexual experience was aroused in her (of course it could be argued that she may have had an angry response upon hearing her friend had died). But it's interesting to see the planets highlighted in her chart that day are those we would associate with the description of what happened...a sexual attack. I'd be really interested to see what houses those planets fall into.

Hmm...after seeing her chart, im thinking the jury may have made the right decision.
 

mysticskye

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Her birth time has been released, on astrodatabank, Rodden rating AA,

Name
Knox, Amanda Gender: F
Birthname Amanda Marie Knox
born on 9 July 1987 at 02:47 (= 02:47 AM )
Place Seattle WA, USA, 47n36, 122w19
Timezone PDT h7w (is daylight saving time)

Data source
BC/BR in hand Rodden Rating AA
 

rahu

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amanda's chart has eris square to the sun,so it does seems she is a bit of a party girl by nature.

with venus opposed to neptune,she is very sexual and prone to alcohol and drugs.but very hot sexually and a bit promiscious which does not reflect negativiely .she just likes to get her ya yas out.
with mercury conjunct to venus and opposed to neptune,she does have aspects that can manifest as a pathological liar.extremely sweet and influential but duplicitic at best.

the moon conjunct uranus gives a highly independent and adrenaline seeking personality.

saturn square to psyche can give a S/M perspective,that is pleasure in hurting others.

the most problematic aspect is mars square to pluto with pluto square orcus.this give a dark. selfish manipulative nature in sexual matters in particular.
this can manifest in a chart of a killer

rahu
 

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rahu

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the composite of amanda and meredith is very telling.
with the tsquare of mars opposed to jupiter and square to uranus,they were clearly not friends as this shows anatagonism and aggression toward each other.

pluto is square to orcus,the double death planets and thieir midpoint is conjunct to mars....................

this composite would suggest that an argument to the death is possible.

with venus conjunct to the moon and sextile saturn, on the surface they would seem to be best friends.

rahu
 

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rahu

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the composite of amanda and the night of the killing,arbitrarily,i place the time a 11 p.m., shows mercury square to ixion and pluto,very ominious as ixion is associated with the murder of intimates.
the moon is opposed to eris which implies jealous and destructive emotional outburst.and as the mercury/pluto and mercury/ixion midpoints are conjunct moon/eris,the events of that night coukld be inferred from this composite.
as saturn uis square to neptune,there are the symbols of drugs/alcohol and deception.the saturn/neptune midpoint is square to the sun showing these influences were operative.

rahu
 

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rahu

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the multi composite of meredith,amanda and the time of death shows the sun square to neptune/uranus conjunction.
this would certainly fit the description of a drug fueled fight, the prosecution maintained.
mars conjunct psyche is square to pluto/ixion, again symbols of the murder of intimates.also jupiter is square to pluto .
with orcus square to eros ,the prosecution assertation of a drug fueled sexual encounter could be implied,especially as the orcus/eros midpoint is conjunct venus.

rahu
 

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rahu

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raffaele sollecito was the alledged accomplice with amanda.
his chart shows a venus square to uranus,so he definitely like his girls hot and bothered.a very sexual aspect and as the midpoint is conjuct to his moon,he was a ladies man and very good at it.bacchus is conjunct his moon,which could reflect a orgiastic tendency.this symbol can have a dark side as the intiates of bacchus/dionysus in mythology would rip aprt animals or men in their rituals.if the prosceutors said a druged/sexual encouinter was at the basis,then bacchus may apply.

with venus trine to saturn and sextile to jupiter.he was respectful,optimistic with a affectionate disposition.
not what you would expect from someone alledgedly involved with murder.

but there is a point of dark power with pluto square to his vertex.this gives a inherent selfishness.with orcus square to pluto ,there is a dynamic of unconscious rage possible.with psyche opposed to orcus and the vertex, and square to pluto ,he is attrracted to dangerous liasons with instinctually oriented women.

with the mars/pluto midpoint conjunct to saturn, there is a "dangerous" side to himthe venus/uranus is all fun and games but this pattern shows a hidden ruthlessness.but the trine to venus would be expected to balance these darker motives in his personality.

but over all not one to settle down early in life.his relationship with amanda was only for a couple of weeks .
rahu
 

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rahu

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the composite of raffaele and amanda is extremely carnal in natur with venus opposed to pluto and square to orcus.and with the mars/uranus midpoint opposed to venus,clearly this was a hot and heavy fling but not something that likely would be longterm.
with the moon/saturn midpoint conjunct uranus and square the vertex,thereis no sense of permanentcy at all.clear pure sex and no regrets.

if anything she had him pussy whipped to the max.

rahu
 

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rahu

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raffaele's composite with meredith,does not really show much attraction if anything antagonism, as the mars/ixion/saturn stellium is square to the sun/mercury conjunction.

venus is square to pluto,so there is a lecherous attraction but most likely this aspect shows a emotional distance.but it does add the ambience of pluto /death to the composite.and the pluto /saturn midpoint is square to the sun.so there is a rather dangerous psychological slant,but that is a far cry from an intention.

rahu
 

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rahu

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hmmm things begin to get out of hand with the multicomposite of the three of them.

the mars/saturn midpoint is conjunct to pluto/eros.with nymphe square to pluto and orcus/sappho square pluto.
now there are deep instruments of pain with intense instinctual carnal desires.most intereting is with nymphe and sappho involved ,there may have been sexual chemistry between the women .
with the pluto/venus and eros/venus midpoints square to eris,there was likely a destructive jealousy.but as meredith and raffaele's composite isn't particularly attractive, why the jealousy.it may hav eto do with sapphos influence here.

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rahu

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the chart of the three and the death date composite does show the mars/pluto midpoint oppsed to eris , giving a potential for jealously induce mayhem .

jupiter is opposed to orcus and square to chiron which adds a control and domination influence.with the venus conjunct to saturn and square to orcus and jupiter, the symbols death to a female could be construed.

jupiter's presence drastically changes the ambience as also most calculated and premediated feeling emerges.
this does feel like sudden passions. there may be other persons involved with these actions.

rahu
 

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ElenaJ

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Keep in mind that in Italy being acquitted of a murder charge does not necessarily end things. In fact, the prosecutors are most probably now working on how to overturn the ruling. There is one more level of appeal allowed.
(In Italy, you could spend your entire life or career trying to free yourself from the tentacles of the justice system. Reform is badly needed, it's being opposed by the magistrates themselves, and if it does come will probably be long after the appeal of this case comes to court again). Rudy is now appealing his conviction. He was convicted as an accomplice to murder, but now that there are no murderers, his lawyers are appealing on the grounds that he couldn't have been an accomplice. Unfortunately for him, his DNA is on the crime scene.
One thing that does seem to come across is that this sweet little thing wrapped up as Amanda wouldn't seem to be so innocent, based on her chart.
 

rahu

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the individual also convicted of meredith murder was rudy guede.
his chart brings explosive mental tendencies to play as there is a mercury/uranus conjunction square mars/jupiter conjunction.this aspect clearly makes him unstable.
and with the sun/neptune conjuction opposed to lilth,his reputation as a local drug dealer seems correct.

dionysus is conjunct psyche and these are opposed to jupiter/mars and square to nymphe.this pattern could suggest the inclination toward orgastic/drug relationships.

his composite with meredith shows a mercury/uranus conjunction,with the the venus/sun,venus/neptune,saturn/sun and saturn/neptune midpoints conjunct mercury/uranus.this pattern would be consistant with the ambilvalent sexual attraction and drug induced rage that prosecuetors claim.

just a quick recap of the circumstances around meredith's murder.

her body was found with 43 stab wounds.there were no defensive stab wounds which suggest she was held down while killed.

guede admits being in the apartment at the time.he said he was in the bathroom when he heard her scream ,as as he returned to her bedroom he was pushed aside by an unknown italian,who guede clams killed her.guede fled and had to be extradited from germany.his bloody prints were found around the body.
he took a fast track trial because he felt amanda and sollecito would form a pact against him.
amanda story changes repeatedly.first she said she was there.she was with solocito.he said he was alone at his computor,which was found to be a lie.then finally amanda and he decided they had been smoking pot and having sex at the time of the murder.but this was after a string of lies and changed stories.

amanda iintially said she was there in the bathroom(hmm a drug dealer and amanda in the bathroom at the same time.what could they have been doing...) at the time of the murder and heard meredith scream.first she say it was the owner of a bar they frequent and this man was arrested for two weeks until it became clear he had been at work at the time of the murder. he successfully filed a lawsuit against amanda for deflamation of character.

it seems the prosecuetors got the story correct.
guede,amanda and sollecito came back to the apartment and apparently gudede tried to rape meredith. amanda and sollecito,instead of helping apparently ,one at least,held meredith down during the murder.

the fact meredith was tortured by 43 stabs before she was killed ,suggest ,to me, this was a ritual killing.i have not heard this theory before, as the prosceutor say only it was a drugged induced rage.
but 43 wounds while held down is not simple murder.

the multicomposite of the 4 and the moment of murder time,clearly indicates murder.

venus/saturn/pluto square to mars and dionysus,and with the jupiter/chiron square forming a grand cross with the former planets, i seems to me there was a ritualistic nature to this murder.
clearly the multicomposite supports that amanda and sollecito took part in meredith's death. it is most likely that guede killed meredith but someone had to have held her down and a great injustice has been done to free amanda and sollecito.

rahu
 

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