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<blockquote data-quote="dr. farr" data-source="post: 381625" data-attributes="member: 12947"><p>My only dispute is with the 5 degree rule: certainly I know that Ibn Ezra (and others) taught this doctrine, but I feel that it will lead to error in the final calculations: we don't find this 5 degree rule in earlier Hellenist authors and I am certain Iamblichus (a major figure of study in the hermetic tradition) would not have followed this either: this 5 degree thing arises from Ptolemy and, moreover, I submit from a misunderstanding of Ptolemy, and became re-inforced with the development of quadrant house formats, replacing the original sign=house format (whole sign house format) of the pre-6th century Hellenists. I do (mostly) accept Ibn Ezra's concept that if a planet is in the last degree of a sign, its influences pass to the next sign: so I would modify the 5 degree rule to a 1 degree rule, ie, if the planet is in the last degree of a sign, count it as in the next sign; further, I would strongly suggest that these calculations use the whole sign (sign=house) format (such as was universally used in the Greco/Roman astrological world during the time of Iamblichus), in preference to quadrant house systems (which I belive can lead into error in making the Alm.Fig. determination)</p><p> </p><p>PS: thanks OMNISPHERICUS for your post, from a fellow admirer of Iamblichus, Ibn Ezra and other earlier, hermetic-oriented astrological authors!!</p><p> </p><p>(Vedic astrology, particularly the minority Jaimini branch, has a similar concept to the Alm.Fig>: in that system the planet with the highest number of degrees in a sign (degrees, minutes, seconds) among all planets in all signs, is the "atmakaraka" planet for that chart, which is regarded in Jaimini astrology much as the Alm.Fig. planet was recorded in oldtime Western/Hellenist astrology)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dr. farr, post: 381625, member: 12947"] My only dispute is with the 5 degree rule: certainly I know that Ibn Ezra (and others) taught this doctrine, but I feel that it will lead to error in the final calculations: we don't find this 5 degree rule in earlier Hellenist authors and I am certain Iamblichus (a major figure of study in the hermetic tradition) would not have followed this either: this 5 degree thing arises from Ptolemy and, moreover, I submit from a misunderstanding of Ptolemy, and became re-inforced with the development of quadrant house formats, replacing the original sign=house format (whole sign house format) of the pre-6th century Hellenists. I do (mostly) accept Ibn Ezra's concept that if a planet is in the last degree of a sign, its influences pass to the next sign: so I would modify the 5 degree rule to a 1 degree rule, ie, if the planet is in the last degree of a sign, count it as in the next sign; further, I would strongly suggest that these calculations use the whole sign (sign=house) format (such as was universally used in the Greco/Roman astrological world during the time of Iamblichus), in preference to quadrant house systems (which I belive can lead into error in making the Alm.Fig. determination) PS: thanks OMNISPHERICUS for your post, from a fellow admirer of Iamblichus, Ibn Ezra and other earlier, hermetic-oriented astrological authors!! (Vedic astrology, particularly the minority Jaimini branch, has a similar concept to the Alm.Fig>: in that system the planet with the highest number of degrees in a sign (degrees, minutes, seconds) among all planets in all signs, is the "atmakaraka" planet for that chart, which is regarded in Jaimini astrology much as the Alm.Fig. planet was recorded in oldtime Western/Hellenist astrology) [/QUOTE]
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