Age of Aquarius May Not Be So Great

david starling

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For this current tropical Age of Capricorn, with Age-sign ruler Saturn being about Time, it looks like England is the power-point, origin location for the Saturnian time-zones encircling the Earth. And, the obsessive precision using atomic clocks and UTC shows the extreme importance of time during the culminating period of this Age.

Cardinal-sign Ages manifest their most representative results towards the end, after overcoming traditional resistance from the previous seasonal quadrant, represented by the overlapping background Age. In this case that's the background Age of Sagittarius, with its Age-sign ruler Zeus/Jupiter.

There's some interesting symbolism involving the Soviet Union's hammer and sickle, crossing each other. The sickle, or scythe, is Saturnian, whereas the hammer is Jupiterean. That's from the Norse mythology about the mighty Thor, god of thunder, combined with the Greco-Roman king of the gods, Zeus-Jupiter, also the god of thunder and lightning. We can see the connection between them in the day of the week now known as "Thursday" in English, derived from Thor's day, which is the Latin "Day of Jupiter".
 

david starling

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Well, could be.
Retrograde Saturn (L1) represents humanity in general. Saturn is in 5th in opposition to Mercury (L5), birth rates. Could be due to some action of humanity in general.
Then we have Sun (L7) in 12th conjunct to SN. It seems that institution of marriage will die out.

Could be due to some illness though. Saturn can represent epidemics or large scale calamites in mundane charts. And Moon (L6) trines Mercury.

But definitely there will be low birth rates. Mercury in detriment and retrograde Saturn in 5th in opposition to Mercury.

There were two vitally important plagues involving the tropical Age of Capricorn, one near the beginning after the fall of the Roman Empire, which led to the "Dark Ages"; and, the other which happened at the middle, and is said to have led to the Renaissance.
 

Cap

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There were two vitally important plagues involving the tropical Age of Capricorn, one near the beginning after the fall of the Roman Empire, which led to the "Dark Ages"; and, the other which happened at the middle, and is said to have led to the Renaissance.
Saturn being retrograde in connection to low birth rates indicates something from the past. Maybe some action of humanity from the past or in case of epidemics some disease from the past.
Mercury is also conjunct Jupiter in its own sign. This is beneficial. But conjunction also means low birth rates are directly tied to matters of of the 2nd and/or 11th house, for better or for worse.
2nd is resources including food. 11th in mundane can represent masses, laws and legislations, hopes and idealism, rebellions etc. Jupiter itself can represent judicial system, religious beliefs/community, prosperity in general etc.
Mutable sign means it will not be constant, it will fluctuate throughout the Age.
 

david starling

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Cap, what about the 2149 chart? It's really not necessary for the true-setting to have the Age-marker in Aquarius when the mean-setting Age-marker (which I believe is what signals the effective beginning of the Age) ingresses Aquarius. And it really is the one I'm using for the start-year.

It would be interesting to compare the two charts.
 

Cap

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Cap, what about the 2149 chart? It's really not necessary for the true-setting to have the Age-marker in Aquarius when the mean-setting Age-marker (which I believe is what signals the effective beginning of the Age) ingresses Aquarius. And it really is the one I'm using for the start-year.

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I chose 2150 because you said you think it's more appropriate. I'll take a look at the other one too.
Assuming that this technique even works, this one (2150 chart) looks pretty weird.
 

Cap

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And, btw, according to 2150 chart, there will be no contacts with aliens in Age of Aquarius.
7th is foreign relations. Since the chart is not for the country but for the whole humanity, 7th is relations with aliens.
Sun in 12th conjunct SN means no relations at all.
 

david starling

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I chose 2150 because you said you think it's more appropriate. I'll take a look at the other one too.
Assuming that this technique even works, this one (2150 chart) looks pretty weird.

Yeah, sorry, it was a momentary impulse wanting the true-setting to be in Aqua when the mean-setting ingressed it--totally meaningless. And, I had no good reason to round up from 2149 to 2150 when I was doing the calculations.
 

Cap

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Thanks Cap.
OK, here is 2149 chart, turned for Aquarius as 1st house.

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I would argue that this one is worse than 2150 chart. Some things are similar, like very good Jupiter, ruler of 2nd and 11th.

Right from the start, you have SN in 1st, indicating decline of humanity in general.
Saturn (L1) is conjunct Mars. This could indicate wars or any kind of violence, crimes etc.
This one also has children/birth rate problems but this time both malefics are in 5th in conjunction.
5th also could be state of sexuality in general, entertainment, sports etc.
In this chart, health problems (Moon, L6, in fall) are in the spotlight (Moon in angular 10th).
Position of the Moon indicates where the main focus of the public lies. In the previous chart Moon was in 3rd (communication, short travel etc.), here Moon is in 10th (government, leadership).

Depending if you want to use outers, they just add more grim colors to overall picture.
Even though Venus (9th, education, science, religion. long travels, space exploration) is in triplicity in this chart, I would argue that Venus is worse in this chart than in the 2150 chart, because Venus is in 12th here. Anything in 12th house has very difficult time expressing itself or making impact.
Venus also represents foundation of society, family unit etc. (4th).
 
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david starling

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OK, here is 2149 chart, turned for Aquarius as 1st house.

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I would argue that this one is worse than 2150 chart. Some things are similar, like very good Jupiter, ruler of 2nd and 11th.

Right from the start, you have SN in 1st, indicating decline of humanity in general.
Saturn (L1) is conjunct Mars. This could indicate wars or any kind of violence, crimes etc.
This one also has children/birth rate problems but this time both malefics are in 5th in conjunction.
5th also could be state of sexuality in general, entertainment, sports etc.
In this chart, health problems (Moon, L6, in fall) are in the spotlight (Moon in angular 10th).
Position of the Moon indicates where the main focus of the public lies. In the previous chart Moon was in 3rd (communication, short travel etc.), here Moon is in 10th (government, leadership).

Depending if you want to use outers, they just add more grim colors to overall picture.
Even though Venus (9th, education, science, religion. long travels, space exploration) is in triplicity in this chart, I would argue that Venus is worse in this chart than in the 2150 chart, because Venus is in 12th here. Anything in 12th house has very difficult time expressing itself or making impact.
Venus also represents foundation of society, family unit etc. (4th).

One more chart, for First Ingress, 1-05-2047?
 

Humanitarian

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This is the 1st ingress of the Tropical Age Marker into Aquarius chart (I'll be 37 years old in the 1st ingression of the Tropical Age Marker into Aquarius, so I still alive when the true tropical age of Aquarius starts)
 

Cap

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Yes, but if you follow Zoller's suggestion then Aquarius gets the 1st house, so we always have the same houses and rulers.
And some themes are just always recurring. Again very weak L5 Mercury, combust in 12th.

If indeed there's going to be birth rate problems I wonder how much it's connected with what globalists such as Bill Gates have been doing for decades, with sterilizations through vaccinations, and artificial pandemics such as Covid. It's been proven that both the virus and vaccines attack reproductive system. Then there's GMO food, pollution and 5G.

Reminds me of this movie.

 

Cap

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If indeed there's going to be birth rate problems I wonder how much it's connected with what globalists such as Bill Gates have been doing for decades, with sterilizations through vaccinations, and artificial pandemics such as Covid. It's been proven that both the virus and vaccines attack reproductive system. Then there's GMO food, pollution and 5G.
This problem is already all over the place, possibly it will hit hard in Aquarius Age when it takes more momentum.

Study Reveals African Men are Becoming Sterile, Sharp Decline in Sperm Concentration​


https://www.africanexponent.com/post/8519-african-men-becoming-sterile

If nothing changes the race is doomed and you have no idea why.​


https://criticalmedicalnews.blogspot.com/2021/08/if-nothing-changes-race-is-doomed-and.html

The Human Race Could Be Infertile In 50 Years​


https://www.cfhu.org/news/the-human-race-could-be-infertile-in-50-years/
 
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david starling

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Interesting tidbit--In the First Ingress chart for the tropical true-setting Age-marker into Aquarius, the new forefront Age-sign ruler, Uran, is in the sign of Virgo in the 8th Zoller House, opposing Pluto in H2 Pisces.

And, during the 1960s in the U.S., the tumultuous counterculture decade from 1961 to 1969, culminating with "the Song" by the Fifth Dimension blasting out from radios all over the land, that was Uran's transit period through tropical Virgo.

12th House, background Age-sign Capricorn's ruler Saturn, is sitting in H11 in Sagittarius, no longer running the Age show.

Neptune's in H4 down-to-Earth Taurus, trining the Sun in H12 Capricorn.

This chart is about the essence of the true nature of the tropical Age of Aquarius to come.
 
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david starling

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The chart for the mundane, mean-setting Age-marker Ingress into tropical Aquarius in 2149, shows the mess that Saturnian Age-sign rulership has caused since the start of the tropical mundane Age of Capricorn in 406 A.D.
 

Cap

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You have faith in "magical powers" of Uranus. For me Uranus is just another malefic, together with Neptune and Pluto. While these planets can signify some very deep and profound metaphysical things, on every day material level they are malefic.

There are prophecies from Baba Vanga that go all the way to year 5079. I don't think these are correct. She already missed the start of WW3 (she thought WW3 will start in 2010). But she got some things right, like Chernobyl, 9/11, Kursk submarine, Hitler's defeat etc.

In her prophecies, humans will become "living robots" at the start of 22nd century. Now, that would be "Uranus thing", according to my understanding of Uranus.
According to Vanga, at some point humans will have artificial Sun because real Sun will start to die off.
In more distant future, humans will abandon Earth because it will become uninhabitable.
All of this is "Uranus like".

Maybe the charts are showing low birth rates because humans will stop natural procreation. As cyborgs, they will "assemble" new members of the species. Also, maybe the charts are showing abundance of wealth/resources because there will be too few humans (cyborgs) on the same amount of resources we have today.
 

Opal

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La La, Ti Da, Hot Diggity!
 

Opal

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You have faith in "magical powers" of Uranus. For me Uranus is just another malefic, together with Neptune and Pluto. While these planets can signify some very deep and profound metaphysical things, on every day material level they are malefic.

There are prophecies from Baba Vanga that go all the way to year 5079. I don't think these are correct. She already missed the start of WW3 (she thought WW3 will start in 2010). But she got some things right, like Chernobyl, 9/11, Kursk submarine, Hitler's defeat etc.

In her prophecies, humans will become "living robots" at the start of 22nd century. Now, that would be "Uranus thing", according to my understanding of Uranus.
According to Vanga, at some point humans will have artificial Sun because real Sun will start to die off.
In more distant future, humans will abandon Earth because it will become uninhabitable.
All of this is "Uranus like".

Maybe the charts are showing low birth rates because humans will stop natural procreation. As cyborgs, they will "assemble" new members of the species. Also, maybe the charts are showing abundance of wealth/resources because there will be too few humans (cyborgs) on the same amount of resources we have today.
There seems to be a few factors for procreation being stunted.

The Vaccine.

Sex changes.

Education of Women.
 

david starling

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There seems to be a few factors for procreation being stunted.

The Vaccine.

Sex changes.

Education of Women.

That's in the Western, tropical world, under contractive, Saturnian Age-rulership: The Rule of Linear Time.

The Eastern, sidereal world, whether it's under Neptunian, Jupiterean, or Uranian rulership (take your pick :wink: ) - all expansive - is procreating just fine, much to the dismay of the Western powers that be.

 
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LeoJeo

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The Age of Aquarius will be one of disclosure, open contact, and judgement from those who are supposed to police us as a species and God, of course. They (and God) know what we've all done, and they (including God) have watched us. Remember, there are millions of galaxies in our section of the universe (God's creation), and we are very close to quite a few, mainly Andromeda, and there are hundreds of billions of stars in our own, but who knows how many of them are also policing humanity. This planet is not a completely isolated one as there were humans here at one point, for an extended period of time, who knew ETs in various forms and who got the same kind of technology from them. This will be shown as the truth once disclosure comes, but open contact won't be so nice for most people. Why? (God is real so.) Because of their sins" " quote unquote, and those sins are the reasons they will be shown the way to God in a new manner, rather than any other religion or spiritual teachings. We will be able to go to God ourselves as individuals, rather than a group. God is real and is not going away in any way.
 
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