Age of Aquarius May Not Be So Great
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Cap
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Well, according to art of astrology EVERYTHING has its own chart, whether it's a being or an object or an event.
Theoretically, if we could pinpoint start of an age down to a minute, we could get the Age's "birth chart". That chart would describe the Age in detail in all its aspects.
david starling
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For the tropical true-setting of the Age-marker, which is 15° in advance of the Point of Earth's Perihelion in a tropical chart, I can give an exact time of perihelion for First True Ingress* into Aquarius in 2047. Because of the oscillation factor, from then on the true-setting will move back and forth, re-ingressing Aquarius about every 12 to14 years, moving a few minutes further in each time.
Unfortunately, the Perihelion/Aphelion tables I'm seeing are only up to 2100, and the true-setting of the tropical Age-marker in 2149 is what I consider the "Official" start of the Age, because it's also the year of the mean-setting ingress.
As for the Ascendant, that would vary from one location to another. But, inasmuch as it's the Age for the entire planet, a suggestion by Robert Zoller is intriguing. He said the Ages could give the Earth its own, separate, whole-sign Houses, using the Age-sign itself as designating the 1st terrestrial House. So, currently, that would make tropical Capricorn the Earth's H1.
*{First true ingress in over 20,000 years!}
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david starling
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I just used London because the time of perihelion is given in GMT. It's not the specific location for where this temporary ingress is for, which could be anywhere or everywhere on Earth. The Sun's placement gives the tropical Point of Perihelion, which centers the Age-window on the centerline of Earth's elliptical orbit. Since the Age-window is constructed like a sign @ 30 degrees of arc, its leading edge, marking the Forefront Age, is 15° ahead of the Sun's position, placing it at 00° 02' tropical 
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Gaia's Free Astrology Birth Chart | Astro-Charts
The astrological birth chart of Gaia, born at London, England, United Kingdom on 2047-01-05 11-44.
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Cap
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Thanks Cap.
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Gaia 2's Free Astrology Birth Chart | Astro-Charts
The astrological birth chart of Gaia 2, born at London, England, United Kingdom on 2149-01-04 11-25.
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Gaia 3's Free Astrology Birth Chart | Astro-Charts
The astrological birth chart of Gaia 3, born at London, England, United Kingdom on 2150-01-07 06-41.
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Humanitarian
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To David:
Midpoint between Sun in Gaia 2 chart and Sun in Gaia 3 chart is:
(14°15'
+ 16°51' ) ÷ 2 = (314°15' + 316°51') ÷ 2 = 630°66' ÷ 2 = 315°33' = 15°33' Capricorn
=> Tropical Age Marker is 0°33'
Midpoint between Sun in Gaia 2 chart and Sun in Gaia 3 chart is:
(14°15'
+ 16°51' ) ÷ 2 = (314°15' + 316°51') ÷ 2 = 630°66' ÷ 2 = 315°33' = 15°33' Capricorn=> Tropical Age Marker is 0°33'
david starling
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Thanks Hum!To David:
Midpoint between Sun in Gaia 2 chart and Sun in Gaia 3 chart is:
(14°15'
=> Tropical Age Marker is 0°33'
Great! Back when I painstakingly hand-calculated everything in 1977 without the Internet, using ephemeris books from the library, I was precise as possible. There was a choice between 2149 and 2150 for the mean year of the ingress of the Age-marker into
, concerning whether I should round up or round down.Now that I know the true-setting wasn't quite in
in 2149, I'm inclined to go with 2150 for the mean-setting. That puts the true-setting Age-marker @ 01°51' to go along with the mean-setting ingress, instead of 29°15' in 2149.
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Humanitarian
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Perihelion day varies throughout the years thought, so tropical age marker of a year is similar to a fluctuated age marker, rather than straightforward age marker like the Sidereal Vernal Point, the sidereal age marker that real siderealists never useGreat! Back when I painstakingly hand-calculated everything in 1977 without the Internet, using ephemeris books from the library, I was precise as possible. There was a choice between 2149 and 2150 for the mean year of the ingress of the Age-marker into
Now that I know the true-setting wasn't quite in
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david starling
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Yes. For tracking the precessional tropical location of the perihelion, the true-setting fluctuates a maximum of +/- 2° from the mean-setting, which is called oscillation in astronomy. But the mean-setting, which is the average for the oscillating fluctuations, is steadily direct @ 1.1 minutes of arc per year. I'm using that continuously direct-motion mean-setting as the tropical counterpart to the VP as Age-marker in a sidereal zodiac, which is steadily retrograde.
There's a choice between mean-setting and true-setting for the Nodes, also.
The mean-setting fits best when it's impersonal, like the Ages, rather than personal, like the Nodes, imo.
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david starling
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Opal's opinion is, that there can be an Ages-only sidereal zodiac, not used for natal-charts. It's still the retrograding VP as sidereal Age-marker, but the sign-boundaries can be variably set to fit the opinion-based start-year. If I were to choose a special, Ages-only sidereal zodiac, I would use Regulus to locate the First Point of sidereal Leo. That gives a sidereal Age of Aquarius that began in 2012. Tropical Aries is the ready-made Age-window for the sidereal zodiac, with the VP boundary between seasons as its first boundary-point, aka The First Point of (tropical) Aries.
Western siderealists are using Aldebaran to exactly center sidereal Taurus. That gives the much later start-year for the sidereal Aquarian Age as 2376.
Western siderealists are using Aldebaran to exactly center sidereal Taurus. That gives the much later start-year for the sidereal Aquarian Age as 2376.
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david starling
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The tropical mean-setting reaches 28° in 2033, which is also a furthest-yet fluctuation year for the true-setting. When the true-setting finally ingresses tropical in 2047, the mean-setting will still be in the 28° range, reaching 29° in 2091. These are the mean-setting Age-degree generations of 58.1 years per degree. The current Age-degree generation for the youngest amongst us is the 27th°, which began in 1975.
The oldest are in the 26th° Age generation, which began in 1917. Unless someone is 105 or older, which makes it the 25° Age-generation. Time marches on!
Huge widespread changes in technology after 1917, and the digital technology manifested after 1975.
2033 will very likely manifest fusion power to replace fossil fuels, and whatever else is on the way. I am NOT going to get an X-chip brain implant!!!
in 2033, which is also a furthest-yet fluctuation year for the true-setting. When the true-setting finally ingresses tropical in 2047, the mean-setting will still be in the 28° range, reaching 29° in 2091. These are the mean-setting Age-degree generations of 58.1 years per degree. The current Age-degree generation for the youngest amongst us is the 27th°, which began in 1975.The oldest are in the 26th° Age generation, which began in 1917. Unless someone is 105 or older, which makes it the 25° Age-generation. Time marches on!
Huge widespread changes in technology after 1917, and the digital technology manifested after 1975.
2033 will very likely manifest fusion power to replace fossil fuels, and whatever else is on the way. I am NOT going to get an X-chip brain implant!!!
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Humanitarian
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Western siderealists also have another way to locate sidereal ages: locate Spica in the first point of the sidereal Libra, and when Spica goes to Scorpio, sidereal Aquarian age will start. It'll start in February 2337 in this method
david starling
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What group is that? The Solunars website is Aldebaran-centered. J.A. is using Aldebaran-centering for Taurus in posted sidereal charts. Gotta link?
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david starling
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With whole-sign Houses for Earth using the current Age-sign (Zoller's idea), Capricorn is the Earth's tropical H1, Aquarius is H2, so Leo is H8. Then I have my Pluto in the Earth's 8th House!
Cap
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Here is turned 2150 chart (as per Zoller)Gaia 3's Free Astrology Birth Chart | Astro-Charts
The astrological birth chart of Gaia 3, born at London, England, United Kingdom on 2150-01-07 06-41.
On first glance, most notable features are wealth/resource abundance and major problem with children/birth rates, seems to be by design.
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Cap
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Well, could be.
Retrograde Saturn (L1) represents humanity in general. Saturn is in 5th in opposition to Mercury (L5), birth rates. Could be due to some action of humanity in general.
Then we have Sun (L7) in 12th conjunct to SN. It seems that institution of marriage will die out.
Could be due to some illness though. Saturn can represent epidemics or large scale calamites in mundane charts. And Moon (L6) trines Mercury.
But definitely there will be low birth rates. Mercury in detriment and retrograde Saturn in 5th in opposition to Mercury.
Cap
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Yes, disregard ASC. I turned the chart so that Aquarius is the first house (whole sign houses)
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