Age of Aquarius May Not Be So Great

david starling

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It is interesting (at least to me) that Golden Dawn co-founder, Mathers, gave the year 2050 as the beginning of the Aquarian Age, only 1 year later than the year you have given of the mean ingress of the age window into tropical Aquarius; Mathers used a rather unique and eclectic approach to astrology…

He may have been using the Year 1 A.D. as a starting year. According to my studies on the internet about the origin of the concept of sidereal Ages in the 1980s, this was one of the originally proposed methods around 1900, but with a sidereal 2160 year Age instead of the modern value of 2148 years.

Pure coincidence that the 1 A.D. method, which gives 2149 as the start of the sidereal Age of Aquarius due to no Year 0, is the same as this astronomically-derived start year for the tropical Age of Aquarius! I wasn't even aware of it until I found out a few years ago that Robert Hand is using the Year 1 A.D. for the beginning of the sidereal Age of Pisces and 2149 for the sidereal Aquarian Age. I calculated it as the mean setting for tropical back in 1977, MUCH to my own disappointment. I was hoping for a much earlier tropical start-date, but I couldn't argue with the astronomy. :sad:
 
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dr. farr

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Mathers astrology is quite cryptic, and he doesn’t go into his sources, so perhaps he did use 1AD; he did believe that the original sign/constellation was Leo, and that the signs circle from Leo back around to Leo.
 

david starling

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Mathers astrology is quite cryptic, and he doesn’t go into his sources, so perhaps he did use 1AD; he did believe that the original sign/constellation was Leo, and that the signs circle from Leo back around to Leo.

Of course, since I'm numbering the tropical signs beginning with Aries, I would begin the tropical cycle with the Age of Aries.
 

david starling

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Mathers astrology is quite cryptic, and he doesn’t go into his sources, so perhaps he did use 1AD; he did believe that the original sign/constellation was Leo, and that the signs circle from Leo back around to Leo.
The tropical Age of Leo did overlap the sidereal Age of Leo, just as the tropical Age of Scorpio overlapped the sidereal Age of Taurus. And, the tropical Age of Aquarius will be nearly concurrent with the sidereal Age of Aquarius.
 

david starling

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The Age Window method explains that the new Age doesn't seal itself off from the past Age and start from scratch. It builds on the past developments and the new developments result from that combination.
 

david starling

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Here's a simple, unambiguous timeline for the forefront tropical Ages, rounded off for simplicity:

•Age of Libra, ~4850 B.C. to 3100 B.C., first Age of the Fall seasonal quadrant.
•Most representative location, Tigris Euphrates region
•Most effective time period, last decant to the end of the Age, typical of Cardinal-sign Ages, which are innovative and culminate at the ending.
•Most revered deity during that time period, Inanna, identified with the the planet now known as Venus.
•Marked the beginning in Western History of city-state culture and writing.

•Age of Scorpio,~3100 B.C. to 1350 B.C., second Age of the Fall quadrant.
•Most representative location, Ancient Egypt.
• Most effective time period, first decant, from the very beginning, typical of Fixed-sign tropical Ages,
•Most worshipped deity during that time period, Osirus, forerunner of Pluto, invisible god of the underworld.
•Intensified and firmly established city-state culture.

•Age of Sagittarius, ~1350 B.C. to 400 A.D., last Age of the Fall quadrant.
•Most representative location, Ancient Greece.
•Most effective time period, middle decant (c.770 to 290 B.C.), typical of Mutable-sign tropical Ages.
•Most worshipped deities, Zeus, identified with the planet now known as Jupiter, along with his son Apollo.
•Diversified and spread city-state culture.

•Age of Capricorn, ~400 A.D. to 2150 A.D., first Age of the Winter quadrant.
•Most representative location, the United States.
•Most effective time period, last decant (~1570 A.D.), to the ending, typical of tropical Cardinal-sign Ages.
•Most worshipped deity, no deity, astrological dispostitor, Saturn.. The religion substitute is modern, materialistic science, with the greatest value placed on time, money, and innovative electronic technology.
•Now in the process of switching from Fall seasonal, city-state culture to Winter
seasonal, mechanized global culture--a "New Order of the Ages", with 10 economic trade zones.
 
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david starling

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All of our spiritual religions are included in the background Age of Sagittarius. The two newest of the great religions, which developed soon after the forefront Age of Capricorn had already begun, both hearken back to the beginning of the previously forefront Age of Sagittarius, c.1350 B.C., but they also both had globalist ambitions of being the one-world religion.
 
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david starling

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The Plains natives, whose equestrian abilities, with man and horse as one, and their bows and arrows, evoke the image of the background Age Sagittarian centaur.
They were up against the mechanized innovations of the forefront Age--the "iron horse" steam engines and the long-range rifles, under Saturnian rulership and firing lead bullets, lead being the metal associated with Saturn.
 

david starling

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None of this answers the question about what the tropical Age of Aquarius will be like. Naturally, I have opinions, and I believe it will be amazingly good. But, that's just an opinion.

Here's one possibility, using numerology, with the signs numbered as the Rosicutions taught, with Aries through Pisces, 1 through to 12:

A big numerological difference between the Winter quadrant signs and the others is, that all three are double-digit. A correlation with this being the Age of the 10th sign, is that it's when the base-10, decimal number system came into use. And, in numerology, the 2 digits can be added together to produce a single digit. So, 10 = 1 + 0 = 1. That correlates to this being about one-world globalization, "E Pluribus Unum".

Applying it to signs and Elements, it would be the Element for #10 Capricorn, Earth, being converted into the Element for #1 Aries, Fire: Matter into Energy, as in burning fuel to produce electrical energy, and E=Mc squared on the atomic level. Explosives are definitely one hallmark of this Age, beginning with gunpowder. An interesting side note for me on a purely symbolic level is, that 1's and 0's are used in computer coding, since I believe that the invention, production, and use of electronic devices is [a product of the Age of Capricorn, rather than the Age of Aquarius.]*
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So, applying 1 + 1 = 2 regarding the Age of sign #11, Aquarius, that would be the astrological meaning of the Air-Element, "Mind" being converted to the Earth-Element of sign #2, Taurus, meaning "Matter".

Which, of course brings to mind the matter of the expression, "Mind over Matter": The ability to influence the material world with Mind-waves. :aquarius:
 
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david starling

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Excellent points! I only disagree about the affinity of electronics, but I can see your reasoning and commend you for your observations.
I actually see them as a blend of Capricorn and Aquarius at the ending cusp of the Age of Capricorn. The coding itself is Binary.

Btw, the Woz is a Leo Sun conjunct Pluto, and Virgo Asc. and Saturn. No placements in Cap OR Aqua!
 
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david starling

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The innovative, Cardinal-sign Age of Capricorn will bequeath computer technology to the Age of Aquarius, just as the innovative, Cardinal-sign Age of Libra Tigris Euphrates culture passed writing and metallurgy and the balance scale on to the Age of Scorpio Egyptian culture.

There's still over a Century before the tropical Age of Aquarius formally begins. LOTS of innovative technology will be handed over from the materialistic, Earth-sign Age of Capricorn. The new Aquarian Age civilizations will take what works for them, and reject the rest.

For example, the use of wheeled carts was an innovation of the tropical Cardinal-sign Age of Libra. The ancient Egyptian, Fixed-sign Age of Scorpio civilization didn't need it, until the near the end of the Age, when the approach of the very kinetic Age of Sagittarius made it acceptable.
 
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