Blaze
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POF can be there and that'll help with life.
But in regards to materially wealthy people: Warren Buffet has an opposition between exalt Jupiter and domicile Saturn from the 8th to the 2nd.
97% of MONEY Today Is Debt Transformation, Accounting Trick - ASTROLOGY SIGNIFICATORS
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POF can be there and that'll help with life.
But in regards to materially wealthy people: Warren Buffet has an opposition between exalt Jupiter and domicile Saturn from the 8th to the 2nd.
LunarLioness00
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So the opposition in his case is a good thing or that there’s something else in his chart to make him so rich apart from his own free will.
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TRADITIONAL SIGNIFICATORS of "...MONEY...":
SUN controls loftiness of fortune, providence
MOON controls affluence, fortune, possessions, housekeeping, gains and expenditures
MERCURY controls commerce, numbers, calculation, profit,
weighing and measuring, testing coins, marketing, banking, gamblers
VENUS controls public benefactors, acquisition of additional property
working with gold and precious stones, the supervisors of markets
weights, measures, trades and shops, giving and receiving, precious stones
MARS controls robbery, the loss of property, the loss of good things, violent theft, banditry, plundering
JUPITER controls prosperity, payments, large gifts, abundance of profits, inheritances, treasures
SATURN controls obstacles in business, tax collectors, lands, administration of that which belongs to others
It's usual for people to pay a bank to take their money
in a thousand different ways. Charging to hold it, if you don't keep x amount in the account
if you don't make enough transactions for example.
People work to earn money - the government takes some for taxes.
Put money in a bank they take some of your money.
Then when people buy something the government takes some for taxes.
People spend about a quarter of their life
working just to pay taxes & fees
Buy a house or rent an apartment
& people spend another half of their life working to pay for that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npXbFUAFtYk
"...SATURN controls tax collectors, administration of that which belongs to others..."
"...MERCURY controls commerce, numbers, calculation, profit,
weighing and measuring, testing coins, marketing, banking....."
Essentially no one is really working to earn money at all
but working to pay government, banks etc. before you even spending anything
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For me:
Mercury disposits currency
Sun disposits stock exchanges
Jupiter disposits capital
Saturn disposits debt
Moon connected with short term market volatility
Sun + Mars midpoint to determine direction of crude oil valuation over a short time period
Mercury + Jupiter-Saturn = the lot of interest (to determine value of interest bearing debt instruments over a short time period)
Venus + Jupiter-Sun = the lot of stock index valuation (to determine direction over a short term time period of the value of a given stock index)
david starling
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With the size of our National Debt in the U.S., Saturn's got a LOT of dispositing to do then!
What rules the wide gulf between the rich and the poor?
What rules the wide gulf between the rich and the poor?
JUPITERASC
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not necessarily
ON THE DIVISION OF TIMES
SATURN onto Sun favorably placed by day
cause high rank and wealth.
SATURN FAVOURABLY PLACED BY DAY
causes profit from vigorous efforts and hard work, ancient trades,
mysteries, legacy, relatives, elders, property and land
& THE TIMES BECOME GOOD FOR EVERYTHING
SATURN onto Jupiter favorably placed by day
is productive of prosperity
notable friendships and acquisitions.
SATURN onto Venus favorably placed
indicate success in business and marriage for the unmarried.
SATURN onto Mercury favorably placed by day
indicate great advancement and increase of wealth.
SATURN onto Moon When favorably placed
the time is profitable and productive of alliance.
Jupiter onto SATURN favorably placed by day
cause advancement, association with the great
the alleviation of distress
nativities spend freely and manage the work of others.
Published under Open Access 2020
MARTIN GANSTEN
'A Note on the Indian Planetary Exaltations and their Greek-Language Sources'.
https://journals.library.ualberta.ca/hssa/index.php/hssa/article/view/66
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david starling
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Ancient alchemy's 2 major intents seem to have been changing lead into gold; and, achieving immortality.
The element mercury was believed to be the key.
Lead was associated with Saturn, planet of mortality.
Gold was associated with the Sun.
Quite a mystery!
JUPITERASC
Well-known member
i.e.
IF in good condition and well placed
for example
The houses are not all equal in strength and power.
If a planet is located in an angular house, it is much more forceful in its effects
than it would be in a cadent house.
Stars are unfavorably placed when they are with their depressions
and unfavorable houserulers
when they are inoperative, especially with the VI and the XII
when they are not rejoicing with their sects and images
when setting under the beams and retreating
whenever they are not rising alongside favorable non-wandering stars
when they are ascending from SATURN
and
when they are ascending from Mars
both particularly with exchanges of rays
and superior placements.
LunarLioness00
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i.e.
IF in good condition and well placed
for example
The houses are not all equal in strength and power.
If a planet is located in an angular house, it is much more forceful in its effects
than it would be in a cadent house.
Deborah Houlding
Stars are unfavorably placed when they are with their depressions
and unfavorable houserulers
when they are inoperative, especially with the VI and the XII
when they are not rejoicing with their sects and images
when setting under the beams and retreating
whenever they are not rising alongside favorable non-wandering stars
when they are ascending from SATURN
and
when they are ascending from Mars
both particularly with exchanges of rays
and superior placements.
Hey Jupe, when you say about cadent houses for example my sag is in 3rd and Jupiter in first. My chart rules Venus is in 3rd. So they are linked but does that make 3rd stellium and Jupiter weak? I’ve heard cadent is weak before.
So does it make obtaining wealth difficult if you have these signs in a cadent house? But not rule it out?
JUPITERASC
Well-known member
Hey hi Lunar
cadent is weakest house location
each natal differs
dr. farr frequently wisely reminds us that
"...the TOTALITY of the testimonies require consideration..."
you're a JUPITER SATURN conjunction nativity
a once-every-twenty-years occurrence
SATURN is linked
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LunarLioness00
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Hey hi Lunar
cadent is weakest house location
each natal differs
dr. farr frequently wisely reminds us that
"...the TOTALITY of the testimonies require consideration..."
you're a JUPITER SATURN conjunction nativity
a once-every-twenty-years occurrence
SATURN is linked
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Thanks Jupiter,
You are so cute and wise!
Thanks for the reply and the knowledge. Much appreciated x
JUPITERASC
Well-known member
I'm no expertThanks Jupiter,
You are so cute and wise!
Thanks for the reply and the knowledge. Much appreciated x
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LunarLioness00
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JUPITERASC
Well-known member
LunarLioness00
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you are entitled to your opinion
.
Do you look at Chiron at all when it comes to money and wealth? So you take it into account in a chart?
JUPITERASC
Well-known member
Although it was initially called an asteroid
and classified only as a minor planet with the designation "...2060 Chiron..."
in 1989 it was found to exhibit behavior typical of a comet.
Today it is classified as BOTH a minor planet and a comet
and
is accordingly also known by the cometary designation 95P/Chiron
CLARIFICATION FOR ANY NEWBIES:
members discuss planetary aspect meanings
within any and all contexts
including that of one thousand five hundred asteroids
or a mere 700 asteroids
if that is ones preference
for example:
Clearly then, our forum allows discussion on a varied spectrum of astrological shades of opinion
and so
I merely mention my humble astrological opinion
which is:
A PLANET acts
A HOUSE shows the area of life
in which the planet acts
as well as
how strongly the planet can act
and furthermore
that the quality of the planet's expression
is influenced by the SIGN location of the PLANET
However keep in mind
not all members
are of the same opinion
Going then with the analogy of a '...theatrical performance....'
we have
12 basic '...backdrops...' to the theatre stage or movie set of a natal chart
Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces
and then
Each of 12 '...backdrops...'
- dependent on reliable time of birth
is pinned as an individual '...background aka cusp...'
on each of the 12 basic '...scenes..' aka '...places...' aka '...houses...'
1. Birth/Self/Appearance/Vitality/Strength
2. Resources, material comforts, earnings
and all issues concerning wealth or of a financial nature
including the manner of attaining wealth, personal goods and belongings,
assets, income, gain, money lent to others, profit (or loss when afflicted),
support and assistance from others. http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h2.html
3 Brothers and sisters, cousins or general members of the family
(not parents, they belong to the 4th scene aka house).
Neighbors and local neighborhood. The environment in which we live and work.
Short journeys or those made on a regular basis.
Letters, rumors, reports, messages and messengers.
Communications generally. Newspapers, magazines, telephones, postal service.
Written deeds and contracts. Speeches and debates.
Our ability to express ourselves and communicate to others.
Languages, mobility skills and self-expression http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h3.html
and so on..........
....each '...scene...' aka 'place...' aka '...house...' features planets
as '...actors...' within any one of the 12 basic '...scenes...' aka '...places...' aka '...houses...'
'...acting...' aka '...performing...' before the '...backdrop...' of the 12 '...signs...'
for example
Venus and Jupiter are the '...good people...'
Mars and Saturn are traditionally the '...villains...'
Mercury can be the '...dodgy person...' - sometimes good sometimes not so good
dependent on the company Mercury keeps
Scenes '...merge...'
taking into account that planets in each others houses
influence the '...script...'
and then
we have our "...travelling players..." aka transiting planets
putting in temporary appearances
for example
transiting MOON is "...on the scene.." for approximately 2.5 days
before travelling on to the next venue
MERCURY puts in an appearance "...for one week only.."
then on to the next scene - unless retrograde
after nineteen days VENUS goes to the next '...stage...'
SUN sticks around for a month
MARS fifty-seven days
JUPITER a year
SATURN two and a half years
adding layers to the drama
an analysis may be as complex or as basic as one prefers
LunarLioness00
Account Closed
Although it was initially called an asteroid
and classified only as a minor planet with the designation "...2060 Chiron..."
in 1989 it was found to exhibit behavior typical of a comet.
Today it is classified as BOTH a minor planet and a comet
and
is accordingly also known by the cometary designation 95P/Chiron
CLARIFICATION FOR ANY NEWBIES:
members discuss planetary aspect meanings
within any and all contexts
including that of one thousand five hundred asteroids
or a mere 700 asteroids
if that is ones preference
for example:
Clearly then, our forum allows discussion on a varied spectrum of astrological shades of opinion
and so
I merely mention my humble astrological opinion
which is:
A PLANET acts
A HOUSE shows the area of life
in which the planet acts
as well as
how strongly the planet can act
and furthermore
that the quality of the planet's expression
is influenced by the SIGN location of the PLANET
However keep in mind
not all members
are of the same opinion
Going then with the analogy of a '...theatrical performance....'
we have
12 basic '...backdrops...' to the theatre stage or movie set of a natal chart
Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces
and then
Each of 12 '...backdrops...'
- dependent on reliable time of birth
is pinned as an individual '...background aka cusp...'
on each of the 12 basic '...scenes..' aka '...places...' aka '...houses...'
1. Birth/Self/Appearance/Vitality/Strength
2. Resources, material comforts, earnings
and all issues concerning wealth or of a financial nature
including the manner of attaining wealth, personal goods and belongings,
assets, income, gain, money lent to others, profit (or loss when afflicted),
support and assistance from others. http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h2.html
3 Brothers and sisters, cousins or general members of the family
(not parents, they belong to the 4th scene aka house).
Neighbors and local neighborhood. The environment in which we live and work.
Short journeys or those made on a regular basis.
Letters, rumors, reports, messages and messengers.
Communications generally. Newspapers, magazines, telephones, postal service.
Written deeds and contracts. Speeches and debates.
Our ability to express ourselves and communicate to others.
Languages, mobility skills and self-expression http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h3.html
and so on..........
....each '...scene...' aka 'place...' aka '...house...' features planets
as '...actors...' within any one of the 12 basic '...scenes...' aka '...places...' aka '...houses...'
'...acting...' aka '...performing...' before the '...backdrop...' of the 12 '...signs...'
for example
Venus and Jupiter are the '...good people...'
Mars and Saturn are traditionally the '...villains...'
Mercury can be the '...dodgy person...' - sometimes good sometimes not so good
dependent on the company Mercury keeps
Scenes '...merge...'
taking into account that planets in each others houses
influence the '...script...'
and then
we have our "...travelling players..." aka transiting planets
putting in temporary appearances
for example
transiting MOON is "...on the scene.." for approximately 2.5 days
before travelling on to the next venue
MERCURY puts in an appearance "...for one week only.."
then on to the next scene - unless retrograde
after nineteen days VENUS goes to the next '...stage...'
SUN sticks around for a month
MARS fifty-seven days
JUPITER a year
SATURN two and a half years
adding layers to the drama
an analysis may be as complex or as basic as one prefers
Amazing way to see it all Jupes! Thank you