Bullying

JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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Neptunian Rainbow said:
Jeff and Bill have Venus conjunct Saturn in their natal charts.

Zuckerberg has Saturn conjunct Moon opposite Saturn.
George has Venus square Saturn.
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more than three hundred and sixty thousand people worldwide
born same day as Jeff, Bill,
similarly with
Zuckerberg, George

then include people born within three degree orb
and there are millions with same or very close to those aspects
of Jeff Bill Zuckerberg and George you mention

as for Zuckerberg
Moon conjuncts Saturn every month :smile:
so that year, at least
four million people worldwide have Moon conjunct Saturn
hence
generalisation is fun, yet notoriously unreliable
and so on ad infinitum
Q.E.D.

Neptunian Rainbow said:
These people have holes in their hearts and no money in the world will ever be able to fill them up.

I associate Venus-Saturn with some form of prostitution. It´s like a lack of self worth and life circumstances make these people feel that they don´t have any other option than to sell themselves in some way. Some sell their bodies in order to survive and feed their kids and they will be very exploited.

Some sell their souls to the devil (an expression that can be used even if you don´t believe in the devil). Powerful and rich people have chosen to sell themselves to a very twisted power structure that is exploiting the masses.
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JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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Neptunian Rainbow said:
These people have holes in their hearts and no money in the world will ever be able to fill them up.

I associate Venus-Saturn with some form of prostitution. It´s like a lack of self worth and life circumstances make these people feel that they don´t have any other option than to sell themselves in some way. Some sell their bodies in order to survive and feed their kids and they will be very exploited.

Some sell their souls to the devil (an expression that can be used even if you don´t believe in the devil). Powerful and rich people have chosen to sell themselves to a very twisted power structure that is exploiting the masses.
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david starling said:
Trump has Venus conjunct Saturn.
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Edgar Cayce Venus conjunct Saturn
John F Kennedy Junior Venus conjunct Saturn :smile:

Thomas Edison Venus conjunct Saturn

Christopher Columbus Venus conjunct Saturn
Lord Byron Venus conjunct Saturn

conspiracy theorist said:
Mother Theresa has Venus square Saturn.
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Florence Nightingale Venus square Sturn

Franklin D Roosevelt Venus square Saturn
Felipe VI of Spain Vemis sqiare Saturn

Marjorie Orr astrologer Venus square Saturn
Louis XIV of France Venus square Saturn


generalisation is fun, yet unreliable
and so on ad infinitum
Q.E.D.


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david starling

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In keeping with the theme of the OP, what would cause someone to be especially vulnerable to sexual bullying in the first place? The generally accepted answer is: Low self-esteem.

So, that's probably the case for all forms bullying. What in a Chart would cause one to have a sense of low self-esteem?

Maybe a weak, badly-Aspected H1?
 
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Ukpoohbear

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Agreed. Low self-esteem and boundaries. More egotistical energy/planets can literally bulldoze over other more gentle energies. Maybe not even consciously but a Venus with low self esteem can lose her grounding when around the energy of a strong Mars and literally forget her identity.
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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david starling said:
In keeping with the theme of the OP, what would cause someone to be especially vulnerable to sexual bullying in the first place?



The generally accepted answer is: Low self-esteem.
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That which "...is generally accepted...." is not necessarily factual :smile:

david starling said:
So, that's


probably


the case for all forms bullying.
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guessing is fun
but "probably" is not necessarily "....the case for all forms of bullying..."

david starling said:
What in a Chart would cause one to have a sense of low self-esteem?
Maybe a weak, badly-Aspected H1?
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maybe not


.
 
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Zeuses

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What happens when a bullied person is only bullied once in their life? Is there any possibility that it could be a transit? Furthermore, couldn't low self esteem be the reason why a bully bullies others to make up for what they lack in themselves, particularly where jealousy, power and competitiveness is involved or because someone walks away from their attempt at have power and control over them when they are used to having it. In fact I believe I have read something that suggests this, that is of course unless they are narcissists, psychopaths or sociopaths.
 
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Zeuses

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JUPITERASC said:
Edgar Cayce Venus conjunct Saturn
John F Kennedy Junior Venus conjunct Saturn :smile:

Thomas Edison Venus conjunct Saturn

Christopher Columbus Venus conjunct Saturn
Lord Byron Venus conjunct Saturn


Florence Nightingale Venus square Sturn

Franklin D Roosevelt Venus square Saturn
Felipe VI of Spain Vemis sqiare Saturn

Marjorie Orr astrologer Venus square Saturn
Louis XIV of France Venus square Saturn


generalisation is fun, yet unreliable
and so on ad infinitum
Q.E.D.


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Steven Hawkins as well apparently.
 
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Zeuses

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Ukpoohbear said:
Agreed. Low self-esteem and boundaries. More egotistical energy/planets can literally bulldoze over other more gentle energies. Maybe not even consciously but a Venus with low self esteem can lose her grounding when around the energy of a strong Mars and literally forget her identity.
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What about the rest of the chart? What happens if they also have a strong mars or other factors in the chart that show confidence and strength.
 
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