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DatAstrology
03-22-2015, 08:48 PM
I would like to be able to chart the sun in its respective zodiac locations through out the year? Where is some good material for learning how to do this?

JUPITERASC
03-23-2015, 08:08 PM
I would like to be able to chart the sun in its respective zodiac locations through out the year?

Where is some good material for learning how to do this?


An EPHEMERIS does this for you ~ for example ~ Now back in print, this splendid and complete reference work
from the late Neil F. Michelsen's best-selling American Ephemeris series
offers daily tables of planetary positions in the Sidereal Zodiac from 2001-2025 inclusive http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-American-Sidereal-Ephemeris-2001-2025/dp/0976242265

This volume, especially sought by anyone who studies the Sidereal Zodiac as used in Western astrology,
uses the Synetic Vernal Point of the Fagan-Bradley school. Includes to-the-second listings of planetary longitudes,
plus right ascension and declination, all lunar and planetary sign ingresses into new Sidereal sectors,
Moon at both midnight and noon, exact time of direct/retrograde stations, true lunar node, and more.
An introductory article by James A. Eshelman and Kenneth Irving
discusses the sidereal zodiac and the use of this valuable ephemeris :smile:

alternatively there's the Tropical version http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-American-Ephemeris-1950-2050-Midnight/dp/1934976288

JUPITERASC
03-23-2015, 08:17 PM
ASTRODIENST offers a 9000 year online EPHEMERIS FOR FREE http://www.astro.com/swisseph/swepha_e.htm :smile:

DatAstrology
03-23-2015, 08:47 PM
Thanks for the informative post. That all looks good. I guess I wasnt as descriptive in exactly what I was looking for though, is what I meant specifically is being able to tell where the sun is in the zodiak by eye.

Also does the sun location/rotation through the zodiak slower change over time? Like in 4000ad will the sun be in a different place on jan 1 than jan 1st this year?

JUPITERASC
03-23-2015, 09:04 PM
Thanks for the informative post.
That all looks good.
I guess I wasnt as descriptive in exactly what I was looking for though, is what I meant specifically is
being able to tell where the sun is in the zodiak by eye.

Avoid looking directly at the sun
it's too dangerous for obvious reasons

Also does the sun location/rotation through the zodiak slower change over time?
Like in 4000ad will the sun be in a different place on jan 1 than jan 1st this year?

4000AD is a speculative time
when none of us shall even remember your question
even if for any reason still alive :smile:

JUPITERASC
03-23-2015, 09:10 PM
The safe way of "being able to tell where the sun is in the zodiac by eye"
would be to observe the skies just BEFORE SUNRISE
while the stars and constellations are visible
AND THEN JUST BEFORE SUNRISE
note which of the constellations is rising on the Eastern Horizon :smile:
AFTER sunrise none of the stars or constellations are visible on the Eastern Horizon

DatAstrology
03-23-2015, 09:50 PM
The safe way of "being able to tell where the sun is in the zodiac by eye"
would be to observe the skies just BEFORE SUNRISE
while the stars and constellations are visible
AND THEN JUST BEFORE SUNRISE
note which of the constellations is rising on the Eastern Horizon :smile:
AFTER sunrise none of the stars or constellations are visible on the Eastern Horizon

Thanks! Easy enough. Any tips on how to get precisely accurate with this observation? Let me see if I can see where the sun is now in a few days and I will post what I find. Thanks for the quick replies btw!

cspencer
05-18-2015, 06:31 PM
Thanks! Easy enough. Any tips on how to get precisely accurate with this observation?

Use a sextant.

waybread
05-18-2015, 08:34 PM
I think there are some cell phone apps that will do this for you. http://www.businessinsider.com/11-best-astronomy-apps-for-amateurs-2013-10?op=1

Keep in mind that the tropical zodiac used by most western astrologers (which pegs the spring equinox to 0 degrees Aries,) is now something like 27 degrees off the sidereal (star-based) zodiac that roughly aligns with the constellations for which our 30-degree signs are named. This slippage is due to the precession of the equinoxes:
http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/time/precession.html