Arena

12-29-2014, 07:10 PM

I've been reading again through the hyleg and alcocoden threads and also looking into Amy Winehouse's death by sidereal method. I do think it gives us the closest result so far.

If Omni is still around it would be nice to get him to participate :)

But others as well, please do give your views.

I'd like to use this thread for John Lennons hyleg or arabic parts - or what comes closest to his life span.

I will use sidereal method, but feel free to use your own methods.

I am interested in his chart as he does have the Snode in his 1st house, meaning that his life will be cut short. Similar as Amy Winehouse connection to the 8th house and Snode.

John Lennon is born on 9th Oct at 18.30 in Liverpool UK.

By sidereal chart he has Pisces rising, Sun angular at Dsc in Virgo (fame/spotlight) and Moon in Capricorn at the top of the chart.

Moon can be his hyleg in this chart. Having the Moon placed at 10 Capricorn makes his alcocoden be Saturn.

So Saturn has to aspect one of it's rulers.

It is in conjunction to Jupiter (face ruler) and square to Moon (triplicity). It opposes Mercury (term).

I am using Ptolemy's table of dignities and Ptolemy's aspect orb.

It differs from Morinus software dignities. http://www.skyscript.co.uk/essential_dignities.html

So if Saturn is alcocoden it is placed in Aries, which is it's sign of fall. It is in second house. I would think it would be the minor years of Saturn or middle yrs. 30 yrs or 43,5

So it is 30/43,5 + 12 (Jupiters minor yrs)

If I understood the hyleg thread correctly, we do not add or subtract the square to Moon and opposition to Mercury?

If we just take Saturn minor yrs + Jupiter aspect, then he would live 42 yrs which is very close to what he did. Snode on ASC shows us his life was cut short. If we take Saturn middle yrs + Jupiters minor yrs we get 55,5 and if we cut that by 1/4 or 1/3 we get 37-41 yrs.

He lived 40 yrs.

If Omni is still around it would be nice to get him to participate :)

But others as well, please do give your views.

I'd like to use this thread for John Lennons hyleg or arabic parts - or what comes closest to his life span.

I will use sidereal method, but feel free to use your own methods.

I am interested in his chart as he does have the Snode in his 1st house, meaning that his life will be cut short. Similar as Amy Winehouse connection to the 8th house and Snode.

John Lennon is born on 9th Oct at 18.30 in Liverpool UK.

By sidereal chart he has Pisces rising, Sun angular at Dsc in Virgo (fame/spotlight) and Moon in Capricorn at the top of the chart.

Moon can be his hyleg in this chart. Having the Moon placed at 10 Capricorn makes his alcocoden be Saturn.

So Saturn has to aspect one of it's rulers.

It is in conjunction to Jupiter (face ruler) and square to Moon (triplicity). It opposes Mercury (term).

I am using Ptolemy's table of dignities and Ptolemy's aspect orb.

It differs from Morinus software dignities. http://www.skyscript.co.uk/essential_dignities.html

So if Saturn is alcocoden it is placed in Aries, which is it's sign of fall. It is in second house. I would think it would be the minor years of Saturn or middle yrs. 30 yrs or 43,5

So it is 30/43,5 + 12 (Jupiters minor yrs)

If I understood the hyleg thread correctly, we do not add or subtract the square to Moon and opposition to Mercury?

If we just take Saturn minor yrs + Jupiter aspect, then he would live 42 yrs which is very close to what he did. Snode on ASC shows us his life was cut short. If we take Saturn middle yrs + Jupiters minor yrs we get 55,5 and if we cut that by 1/4 or 1/3 we get 37-41 yrs.

He lived 40 yrs.