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DreamingTheSeas
08-05-2013, 05:31 PM
H1+H8-Moon?

08-05-2013, 05:56 PM
Moon to the 8th from Saturn is the one I have come across, and as far as I remember, the earliest one.

Zarathu
08-05-2013, 05:56 PM
My astrology program offers 5 separate Arabic Parts of Death:

1. Death: Asc + 8th - Moon

2. Medieval Death: 8th + Saturn - Moon

3. Death "point" : Mars + Saturn - MH

4. Death of parents: ASC + Jupiter - Saturn

5. Death of Siblings: Asc + Degree(70) - Sun

DreamingTheSeas
08-05-2013, 06:07 PM
Moon to the 8th from Saturn is the one I have come across, and as far as I remember, the earliest one.

Moon +H8-Saturn?

Culpeper
08-05-2013, 06:39 PM
In Late Classical Astrology translated by Greenbaum the formula is Asc + Moon - Saturn. It is the same day or night.

08-05-2013, 06:48 PM
Moon +H8-Saturn?

No, Saturn + 8th - Moon. The way I have written it is the order in which you would calculate it: degree of the Moon to the degree of the 8th sign projected from Saturn.

BobZemco
08-05-2013, 09:30 PM
... degree of the Moon to the degree of the 8th sign ...

That's key right there.

dr. farr
08-06-2013, 03:23 AM
Right, the old Pars Mortis = Saturn + 8th - Moon.
Personally I have found the Anareta to be of much more practical value in my experiments (Ascendant + Moon-lord of the ascendant; reverse for night) and I have made much use of the anaretic dispositor ("anaretic planet") in experiments with indications from Solar Returns of individuals who died later in their SR year.

(Note: the formula ascendant+8th-Moon is a "death and disaster" Lot; actually I consider this more indicative of problems than the generally used "Lot of Death"-ie the original Pars Mortis)