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fortuna
08-04-2007, 12:58 AM
here in the US, one of our Supreme Court Justices had a seizure on his Saturn to Pluto transit.
I subscribe to the Astrological Musings blog, and they posted this article which I think will interest some folks.

John Roberts takes a fall - the astrology of seizures (http://astrodynamics.blogspot.com/2007/08/john-roberts-takes-fall-astrology-of.html)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1354/984821071_5e7820eeac.jpg (http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1354/984821071_5e7820eeac.jpg)John Roberts suffered a seizure yesterday and fell at his Maine vacation home on Monday, July 30. This was the second time he had blacked out after experiencing what they are calling a "benign idiopathic seizure," meaning the medical experts don't know what caused it. That always sends me running to the chart, because undiagnosable medical maladies are often energy imbalances in the physical structure.

Roberts has an Aquarius Sun [view chart (http://www.astrodynamics.net/blogstuff/John-Roberts.jpg)]. Aquarians often have an interesting medical history because as a rule their inventive, rational mind typically takes control of their emotions. Roberts has the Moon in Pisces, which does add water to his chart and shows a deeply sensitive nature, and his Moon is part of a Grand Trine in Water which includes a conjunction of Jupiter and Uranus in Cancer as well as Saturn in Scorpio. This suggests a comfort with the emotional realm overall (Pisces Moon) with a need to care for others (Jupiter in Cancer) although that must be done in a way that retains his autonomy and freedom (Uranus conjunct Jupiter).

Saturn in Scorpio reveals a strongly fixed nature and works well in the trine; however, that same Saturn in Scorpio also squares his Aquarius Mercury and Pluto. Mercury and Pluto are in opposition which lends an intensity (Pluto) to the mental realms (Mercury) and can indicate a tendency towards obsessive thinking. This is not easy for the Aquarian Mercury, which prefers to live in the more subjective realms where life makes sense and there are no underlying psychic demons such as the ones that Scorpio embraces. In this T-square the Saturn in Scorpio suggests a fear and discomfort (Saturn) with the Scorpio realm of the emotional underworld.

It is this T-square that was hit on Monday when Roberts experienced the seizure that sent him briefly to the hospital. The square of transiting Saturn to Mars exactly squared the Pluto/Mercury opposition in Roberts chart, and transiting Saturn was in exact conjunction to his Pluto.

This in itself does not signify a medical event, so I looked back to the earlier seizure episode that Roberts experienced in January of 1993. At that time transiting Chiron in Leo had just made a square to Saturn in Roberts' chart and was preparing to conjunct his Pluto and oppose his Mercury; meanwhile, transiting Pluto was exactly square to the Mercury/Pluto opposition. He was in his "Pluto Square" at the time - this is the time when transiting Pluto makes a square (90 degree angle) to Pluto in our birthcharts and being the God of the Underworld, begins drudging up any hidden psychic debris from which we have been hiding.

I was unable to find the exact date for that seizure in January 0f 1993, but transiting Mercury would have been opposite Roberts' Jupiter/Uranus square. Because Uranus rules electricity in general and electromagnetic energy in particular, the combination of Uranus and Mercury is often a volatile one that can bring about anxiety and other mental disorders.

From an astrological perspective, the timing of these seizure events indicates a reluctance on the part of John Roberts to delve into the deep emotional underworld where life is messy and complicated and full of darkness. Jealousy, rage, desire, loathing - all of these ugly things reside in that world, and the Aquarian nature prefers to remain in the world of the mind where all things make sense and emotions can be managed by reason. The darkness of the emotions get pushed to the basement, where they remain until a planetary transit activates them and the carefully constructed defense may begin to show cracks.

John Roberts has created an incredibly perfect persona in which no cracks have yet appeared: perfect good looks, the perfect wife, perfect children. Perfect Harvard education with a magna cum laude degree, Latin student, National Merit scholar, perfect Washington suburban home with the perfect Maine summer home. Still, according to Wikipedia Dr. Max Lee of the Milwaukee Neurological Institute, who is not involved in the case said, "Having two seizures so many years apart without any known culprit is going to be very difficult to figure out."[12] (http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=13082644&postID=9175978319260829078#_note-suffers_seizure_update)

Perhaps the culprit is still hiding in the emotional basement.


As someone who lives with the Jupiter/Uranus conjunction too, I've had neurological issues.. though no seizures yet.

Belle

lillyjgc
08-04-2007, 02:10 AM
Hi, I have jupiter cj Uranus and almost died in 2002 from a malignant brain tumour which made it self known by causing me to have 7 seizures in a one hour period (during which time I badly tore a shoulder muscle which is now a chronic injury0. I've raised this seizure topic indirectly on another post (Going to my reunion..)

My friend Dave suddenly started having seizures in 2003 for no identifiable reason. Uranus was within orb of his opposition to pluto...As I don't have Dave's natal I am working from event seizure charts-hoping to use same to rectify the birth chart.If anyone wants these charts to help with their own research I can make them available...Its looking like Dave's asc may well be Aquarius..His wife is Aquarius and one of his kids is Leo.(He has the biggest hands and feet of anyone I have ever known though, except Ian Thorpe -the swimmer-which suggests pisces on asc. which may place uranus near his asc in opposition to pluto- which would indicate the life threatening nature of his illness-still undiagnosed..he's a sun sag with scorpio moon.

I don't have seizures anymore and I don't expect to, but poor old Dave- every 42 days on the dot he has a night of grand mals and wakes up in hospital..He's only 55..it's wrecking his life.

Like the senator above his life has been impeccable- everything perfect, but underneath in the plutonian depths apparently all is not so peaceful.
As such a dynamic phenomenon you'd think seizures would be easy to predict but when they are cyclic and nocturnal....does anyone out there know of any astral phenomenon that occurs regularly every 42 days?
cheers, lillyjgc

Robert
11-26-2007, 01:41 PM
Unpredictable Uranus triggered?!

dancinglight
11-29-2007, 09:38 PM
My daughter has a tight uranus / neptune conjunct in Capricorn 2nd house, opposite mercury in the eighth....and the houses are intercepted.

I went and looked up the date she had a massive seizure, and brought up the transits. Nothing really jumps out at me for triggering the seizure, but then, I'm just learning astrology and the transits and progressions aren't coming quickly to me.

It was the most frightening thing I have ever experienced, because she had no muscle tone whatsoever, she was flaccid and gasping, unconscious and I've never seen pallor like that..... I thought we were going to lose her. She was unresponsive for 45 minutes.

Here's the date of her first seizure:

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s235/waddellz/charts/Ksseizure.gif


(She's fine now, btw......was on medication until a little over a year ago. Puberty kicked in, and somehow her brain mended itself, her EEG's normalized and we were able to trial her off meds.)

autumnleaf
01-06-2008, 11:47 AM
I have Mars trining Uranus. Mars is at the end of H3, interpreted in H4 (home). Very traumatic childhood. They came on suddenly, out of the blue, and the neurologist couldn't figure out why. Had them until I moved out of my parents' house. I've been seizure-free for nearly 25 yrs now.


;)

Arian Maverick
01-06-2008, 05:56 PM
My daughter has a tight uranus / neptune conjunct in Capricorn 2nd house, opposite mercury in the eighth....and the houses are intercepted.

A Uranus-Neptune conjunction is a generational aspect, so I don't know if I'd include it as an indicator of seizures; if it was, I think this would be a lot more commonly, especially in your daughter's generation.

However, I looked up the Anatomy and Illnesses Mercury is associated with and found the following description:

Of Mercury, & his Signification, Nature & Property (http://www.skyscript.co.uk/mercury_att.html[/url)

All vertigos, lethargies or giddiness in the head, madness, either lightness, or any disease of the brain; phthisis,[9] all stammering and imperfection in the tongue, vain and fond imaginations, all defects in the memory, hoarseness, dry coughs, too much abundance of spittle, all sniffling and snuffling in the head or nose; the hand and feet gout, dumbness, tongue-evil, all evils in the fancy[10] and intellectual parts.

This is pretty old information, but I'm thinking that seizures could have possibly been thought of as "diseases of the brain" back in William Lilly's day.

I admit that I'm relatively unfamiliar with seizures, but I believe even now they are considered to be a result of some kind of abnormal brain activity, so this seems to fit.

Arian Maverick

Carole
01-06-2008, 07:47 PM
He has an inconjunct between Mercury in Aquarius, 1st House, and Uranus in Cancer, 6th House. This by itself may indicate a very nervous nature, and inconjuncts act like a pressure cooker. I don't tend to relay too much on emotional problems to find a cause for a health problem, as there is always something in the chart that shows a pre-disposition to suffer from certain ailments first, but it's highly probable that he might have a considerable amount of stress pent up behind that mask of perfection.

For people with those planets having the aspect mentioned above, a bout of stress might cause a poor absorption of nutrients leading to a lack of some vitamins (thiamine especially). Then he perfectly could have some spell of seizures. Especially if all of this is helped by some transit. He should watch carefully what he eats when he finds himself under sudden stress.

Carole

autumnleaf
01-07-2008, 09:04 AM
Well, we all seem to agree that Uranus is definitely the culprit. Since there are different types of seizures, petit mal/grand mal, and several reasons related to why one would have seizures, there probably won't be any one specific aspect causing these.

lgannon
01-21-2008, 07:31 PM
Knowing about seizures, they are caused by blockages between the channels in the halves of the brain, or a lack of electrical charge in one side or the other. Same thing causes migraine headaches and other forms of depression and aggression. If someone has had a seizure, they should seek treatment with a qualified psychiatrist or neurologist immediately or other specialized doctor. There are some very advanced treatments (not RX based but treating brain waves and electrical flow) that can help people with frequent seizures. About 20 hospitals in the US have access to this technology. Try Yale, U of Florida as two I recall without checking the list. I believe this is too serious to fall into the category of astrology in terms of forecasting or more important, NOT expecting another seizure sooner than a chart could foretell.

AineB
03-07-2008, 02:34 PM
lcannon: Sorry, but you're slightly wrong with your description of seizures! It's not just a "blockage" or "lack of electrical charge". In fact, most times it's quite the opposite and it's TOO MANY electrical discharges!!

Ok.. soooo anyways. I saw there were a couple more posts to this one so I thought I'd chime in seeing as that I get to deal with a rare epilepsy every day with my daughter!! Seizures themselves can be categorized, so I've kinda come up with a rough idea of maybe how planets/signs could be related better. Just something I've been thinking on, not sure if it would really show anything in epileptics charts yet!!

Generalized seizures are going to effect the entire brain... So I think that is where Uranus is going to pop up most times.

Partial seizures; finding out where they originate in the brain is going to be key. (With my daughter's epilepsy, it primarily effects speech; receptive and expressive.)

Absence seizures; these ones are REALLY tricky! Most the time it just looks as though someone is daydreaming. So maybe Moon, Pisces, Aquarius?

Myoclonic/Atonic seizures; since these have to do with muscle tone.. Mars, Aries?

There's all sorts of seizures, but those ones are the one's I have the most experience with. Epilepsy.com has a ton of information on it, well duh.. wouldn't they?! ;) But it can definitely help if someone's looking for more info on the different types of seizures. I would think we could figure up some way that a breakdown of them would be able to be figured out. It's not like we can't figure out artistic qualities for someone!! We don't just say well, you're going to be an artist.. but not sure if that'll be a painter, seamstress, landscaper, illustrator, etc.!! :rolleyes: Ok, well need to go get the kids ready! We actually have an EEG at 12:30 today so need to pull a chart and see what kind of news we can expect too!

TTFN!!!