Laudry
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Hello there,
I apologize for the length of this post in advance...
I've been using astrology at a personal level for about 20 years - for & with my husband, family & friends - and I do pretty well with natal astrology, returns and transits, less often using progressions. But the group of aspects my husband and I BOTH have for most of April 2009 is very frightening to us, and with all of the houses and planets involved, I'm having trouble pinning down just where and in what manner the whole thing will manifest. (In fact, it's clear that my worry about these aspects has greatly impeded my judgement, so I am hoping someone will be good enough take a clear look at the situation for me.)
I really need help with this, as much help as I can possibly get! I've written on this site only a few times previously, mostly short comments, so if I'm supplying too much info, I hope you'll let that pass. I've always thought - better too much than not enough, so I apologize beforehand.)
As I also have some scary transits going on during my husband's transits, I will include both of our birth info at the end of this post. (For reference, I should note that I've used the Equal House system for the last 20 of my 25 years of study and use of astrology.)
From the start of April '09, my husband will have transiting Uranus in his natal 4th house square natal Saturn in his 1st. At the same time, the retrograding tr.Saturn (in n. 10th) will oppose his n. Mars in the 4th (per Equal House; Mars is in his 3rd with the Placidean system). Covering the same period of time, tr. Uranus opposes my ascendant (obviously, also conjuncting my descendant).
Things seem to come to a head at mid-month, when tr. Mars joins in, squaring his n. Saturn (1st) from his n. 4th - where tr. Mars conjuncts tr. Uranus on 4/15. In my transits, tr. Mars conjunct tr. Uranus oppose my ASC conjunct ]my DSC on 4/15! On April 14th & 15th, tr. Mars conjunct tr. Uranus will also oppose my n. ASC.
We've been together for a long time & have gone through some pretty heavy-duty transits before, but we've never had a whole series of hard aspects between difficult planets converge like this. I've omitted asteroids and points such as the nodes, the vertex, etc, as I have been working with them for a shorter time & don't trust myself yet.) Here is what I have been (nervously) considering, though I cannot for the life of me pull it all together.
1.) As I have ongoing health problems (a severe, chronic bone problem for at least the last decade, but one which has been relatively well-controlled with meds), my first thought was about the oppositions to my own ASC, especially since the two transiting planets that conjoin to make this aspect consist of the ruler of my 6th house (Uranus) and my 8th (Mars)! I wouldn't be shocked at all to be diagnosed with a serious, even fatal, illness; like I said, I've long had health problems; additionally, colorectal (6th/8th house) cancer runs in the family (& I will be going in for a colonoscopy soon).
However, though very difficult, my husband's aspects don't seem to necessarily refer to the severe illness or death of a wife at that time. Two main areas bother me most: medical/accident or his family.
2.) My husband has been diagnosed with cataracts at a pretty young age. He was to go in for surgery initially in Februray of this year, but work and transportantion problems have blocked that. As all three of his transits involve squares or oppositions to his n. Saturn (ruler of his n. 2nd house, but in his n. 1st -the eyes as well as the physical body as a whole), I'm worried that there might be some sudden developement which will hurt or ruin his sight permanently. (I haven't found info that this could happen with this condition, but who knows? Or perhaps the diagnosis was wrong?)
3.)With the involvement of his 10th & 4th houses in multiple ways (tr. planets in the 4th and 10th houses aspecting his natal Mars in the 4th) and his parents, unfortunately, both elderly & ill, an event involving them seems just as likely, astrologically speaking.
As you'll see in his chart, my husband, while an exceptionally wonderful person, does not deal with anything inner until an outer event forces hime to do so; in fact, virtually all of his transits have manifested themselves as events & circumstances occurring in the objective world. These events, while rare, have been the only times when he and his family have "gotten below the surface," & he (and his family) avoid this circumstance like the plague. His family is extremely repressed - nothing has ever been discussed, aired or acknowledged among them (purposely), and he has an odd, very strained relationship with his parents and his three siblings. Therefore, any problem with any of them would be exceptionally devastating for him.
Since my aspects are not only oppositions to my ASC but conjuctions to my DSC as well, I can interpret them as my husband suffering a shock of some kind (- such as a family death? It would be his first ever...).
--- With the involvement of his 3rd house, I could also see a car accident involving him, or perhaps one of his brothers ( & the 4th house involvement -one brother lives with his parents in his childhood home, another has always lived within two miles of it).
--- My husband's first interpretation was that he would lose his job (involvement with the 10th house, and all three transits involving the ruler of his 2nd house), but he just received a fairly good merit raise yesterday!
--- As for the involvement of his 5th house, here I suppose I'm baffled - we have no children (a beloved dog, yes, but wouldn't the 6th house also show up?).
If anyone has read this far, thank you for bearing with me! I hope I haven't been too hysterical in my writing, but I am terribly worried, primarily for my husband, who is one of those very rare, truly good people in this world & deserves nothing bad. Here is our birthdata:
My HUSBAND (Gene): 5/18/58 8:19 pm (20:19:00) Raleigh, NC EDST
ME (Laudry): 3/3/59 6:44 pm (18: 44:00) Manhattan, NY EST
Thank you...
[edited to remove "smiley" - Moderator]
I apologize for the length of this post in advance...
I've been using astrology at a personal level for about 20 years - for & with my husband, family & friends - and I do pretty well with natal astrology, returns and transits, less often using progressions. But the group of aspects my husband and I BOTH have for most of April 2009 is very frightening to us, and with all of the houses and planets involved, I'm having trouble pinning down just where and in what manner the whole thing will manifest. (In fact, it's clear that my worry about these aspects has greatly impeded my judgement, so I am hoping someone will be good enough take a clear look at the situation for me.)
I really need help with this, as much help as I can possibly get! I've written on this site only a few times previously, mostly short comments, so if I'm supplying too much info, I hope you'll let that pass. I've always thought - better too much than not enough, so I apologize beforehand.)
As I also have some scary transits going on during my husband's transits, I will include both of our birth info at the end of this post. (For reference, I should note that I've used the Equal House system for the last 20 of my 25 years of study and use of astrology.)
From the start of April '09, my husband will have transiting Uranus in his natal 4th house square natal Saturn in his 1st. At the same time, the retrograding tr.Saturn (in n. 10th) will oppose his n. Mars in the 4th (per Equal House; Mars is in his 3rd with the Placidean system). Covering the same period of time, tr. Uranus opposes my ascendant (obviously, also conjuncting my descendant).
Things seem to come to a head at mid-month, when tr. Mars joins in, squaring his n. Saturn (1st) from his n. 4th - where tr. Mars conjuncts tr. Uranus on 4/15. In my transits, tr. Mars conjunct tr. Uranus oppose my ASC conjunct ]my DSC on 4/15! On April 14th & 15th, tr. Mars conjunct tr. Uranus will also oppose my n. ASC.
We've been together for a long time & have gone through some pretty heavy-duty transits before, but we've never had a whole series of hard aspects between difficult planets converge like this. I've omitted asteroids and points such as the nodes, the vertex, etc, as I have been working with them for a shorter time & don't trust myself yet.) Here is what I have been (nervously) considering, though I cannot for the life of me pull it all together.
1.) As I have ongoing health problems (a severe, chronic bone problem for at least the last decade, but one which has been relatively well-controlled with meds), my first thought was about the oppositions to my own ASC, especially since the two transiting planets that conjoin to make this aspect consist of the ruler of my 6th house (Uranus) and my 8th (Mars)! I wouldn't be shocked at all to be diagnosed with a serious, even fatal, illness; like I said, I've long had health problems; additionally, colorectal (6th/8th house) cancer runs in the family (& I will be going in for a colonoscopy soon).
However, though very difficult, my husband's aspects don't seem to necessarily refer to the severe illness or death of a wife at that time. Two main areas bother me most: medical/accident or his family.
2.) My husband has been diagnosed with cataracts at a pretty young age. He was to go in for surgery initially in Februray of this year, but work and transportantion problems have blocked that. As all three of his transits involve squares or oppositions to his n. Saturn (ruler of his n. 2nd house, but in his n. 1st -the eyes as well as the physical body as a whole), I'm worried that there might be some sudden developement which will hurt or ruin his sight permanently. (I haven't found info that this could happen with this condition, but who knows? Or perhaps the diagnosis was wrong?)
3.)With the involvement of his 10th & 4th houses in multiple ways (tr. planets in the 4th and 10th houses aspecting his natal Mars in the 4th) and his parents, unfortunately, both elderly & ill, an event involving them seems just as likely, astrologically speaking.
As you'll see in his chart, my husband, while an exceptionally wonderful person, does not deal with anything inner until an outer event forces hime to do so; in fact, virtually all of his transits have manifested themselves as events & circumstances occurring in the objective world. These events, while rare, have been the only times when he and his family have "gotten below the surface," & he (and his family) avoid this circumstance like the plague. His family is extremely repressed - nothing has ever been discussed, aired or acknowledged among them (purposely), and he has an odd, very strained relationship with his parents and his three siblings. Therefore, any problem with any of them would be exceptionally devastating for him.
Since my aspects are not only oppositions to my ASC but conjuctions to my DSC as well, I can interpret them as my husband suffering a shock of some kind (- such as a family death? It would be his first ever...).
--- With the involvement of his 3rd house, I could also see a car accident involving him, or perhaps one of his brothers ( & the 4th house involvement -one brother lives with his parents in his childhood home, another has always lived within two miles of it).
--- My husband's first interpretation was that he would lose his job (involvement with the 10th house, and all three transits involving the ruler of his 2nd house), but he just received a fairly good merit raise yesterday!
--- As for the involvement of his 5th house, here I suppose I'm baffled - we have no children (a beloved dog, yes, but wouldn't the 6th house also show up?).
If anyone has read this far, thank you for bearing with me! I hope I haven't been too hysterical in my writing, but I am terribly worried, primarily for my husband, who is one of those very rare, truly good people in this world & deserves nothing bad. Here is our birthdata:
My HUSBAND (Gene): 5/18/58 8:19 pm (20:19:00) Raleigh, NC EDST
ME (Laudry): 3/3/59 6:44 pm (18: 44:00) Manhattan, NY EST
Thank you...
[edited to remove "smiley" - Moderator]
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