can the moon be 'frustrated?'

So, in one particular question, the querent is merc and the quesited is Jupiter. The moon is sextiling mercury, and will then carry the light to Jupiter, bringing them together. However, both Venus and Mars will hit Jupiter first....before the moon hits Jupiter.

Since the moon shows the plan of action, can we say that the moon is indeed translating merc to jup, and that venus and mars getting to jup before the moon doesn't matter....or does it deny it?

thanks
barbh

Sounds like frustration to me. Seems like the translation is too little, too late.

How come?

The moon is not a significator, it shows the course of events...although in this case I'm using it to get merc to jup

barbh

The moon is a significator, directly by being significant of someone or indirectly by translating or whathaveyou. So, she can be frustrated, it just doesn't happen often. You know, because she's so fast.

barbh said:

So, in one particular question, the querent is merc and the quesited is Jupiter. The moon is sextiling mercury, and will then carry the light to Jupiter, bringing them together. However, both Venus and Mars will hit Jupiter first....before the moon hits Jupiter.

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Think you answered your own question barb. Anyway, moon has to be in the essential dignities of Jupiter beforehand, so if this is while the moon's in Sag, should be no problem. But whatever perfects first... happens first.

Although the Moon *is* the fastest moving planet...but doesn't it also have to pass over Mars first, to get to Jupiter?

In theory, the Venus/Mars/Jupiter triad is already perfected, as it has been within moiety for several days now; Venus and Mars are only arcminutes apart. So we could almost say that this has to be taken as a package deal.

We had those cases recently where, I think it was Venus, Mars and Saturn all perfected almost simultaneously, within 'real time' minutes, of one another. The jury is still out on whether one aspect interfered with another.

A problem, as RayAustin notes, is that none of the planets involved are in any essential dignity; thus, being peregrine or in detriment, they have a larger capacity for 'doing harm' than they would, were they dignified.

AG

Hi AG

Although the Moon *is* the fastest moving planet...but doesn't it also have to pass over Mars first, to get to Jupiter?

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Actually, no. Mars passes Jupiter, and then the moon comes up and sextiles Jupiter, and then Mars, and then trines Venus.

Hence the question...its the next aspect of the moon, so it hitting Jupiter doesn't count to bring querent to quesited because venus and mars got there first?.

Sounds like its a no go from what you said.

thanks
barbh