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rogue_red
01-03-2009, 08:29 PM
Hi there, Im looking to start a new health and fitness regime but Im having some trouble finding a suitable time to start. Saturn is retrograde til may and as I have saturn in the first house currently transiting my six house in virgo now is a good time but i dont really want to wait til may as i have some lovely mars trines coming up that will really help in my pursuit of weight loss and fitness. T sun trines natal mars 7 jan, T mars trines natal mars 18 jan, t mars trines natal pluto (in 6th) 24 jan and t mars trines natal uranus in 6th 30 jan then t mars sextiles natal sat 27 feb then t sat trines natal mars 2 april.
On 4 -6 feb I have t uranus(on my asc) opposite natal pluto (6) and t saturn (6) con junct natal pluto (6).
Im looking at outer transits first to find the right period of time, say a few months at least that is conducive to weightloss then refining my start time according to the placemet of the sun and moon and asc ruler for the moment. I figured that saturn is always good for discipline and mars is my drive so im focusing on having these in 1st and 6th houses and for the moon to be waxing in virgo which seems to always motivate me in areas of routine.
When it comes to weight loss my issues are a little different than the usual. I have an underactive thyroid which is medicated but i have a real problem with not eating. I know this sounds weird but basically i have very little appetite so I dont think to eat during the day at all. I have an evening meal with my family and its of normal size but as i am usually up till the wee hours of the morning i'll have a lunch type meal around midnight. Because of these poor eating habits my body stores just about everything i eat. I am constantly tired, my body temperature is 35 deg Cel, my blood pressure is 110/65 (low normal) and after eating i get very tired. I was told by a nutritionalist that i get tired because my metabolism is extremely low so after eating my body struggles to digest food and keep my muscles firing as well. So this new regime is less about limiting food intake as it is about routine (appropriate eating/sleeping times) and exercise to build up my metabolism.If anyone out there has any experience with this sort of thing i could really use a hand. Thanks in advance for any help.

archergirl
01-05-2009, 06:30 PM
I would consider actually starting right now with the retrograde Saturn. It's a good time to make resolutions that 'stick'. I certainly hope you will address your eating patterns first, and worry about the 'diet' afterwards, although that of course should be considered. :)

Another thought: have you considered either acupuncture or Chinese herbal medicine to address your thyroid and metabolic problems? It certainly sounds to me like you have too much damp and cold in your system, which is why your metabolism is sluggish, you have little appetite, and you tend to eat at night. This can cause quite an imbalance in your body and affect everything from your moods to the way you carry your weight. If you sort out your internal imbalances first, it is likely that your weight issues will disappear by themselves with only a few changes to the way you eat, what you eat, etc.

Seriously...consider a consultation with an acupuncturist. It can have fantastic results.

AG:)

Kaiousei no Senshi
01-05-2009, 06:38 PM
It certainly sounds to me like you have too much damp and cold in your system, which is why your metabolism is sluggish, you have little appetite, and you tend to eat at night.

I never thought I'd get to discuss something like this here. AG is right, it does sound like you have some serious damp and cold in your system, and the winter weather is only going to agitate that condition. So, while you're waiting for your acupuncture appointment (I'm afraid of needles, so I can't say I've ever had one, but I do know several people who will attest to its assistance), the best thing you can do now is to introduce more heat and dryness into your diet. Your best bet is meat, especially beef stew. :)

rogue_red
01-06-2009, 01:10 AM
I never thought I'd get to discuss something like this here. AG is right, it does sound like you have some serious damp and cold in your system, and the winter weather is only going to agitate that condition. So, while you're waiting for your acupuncture appointment (I'm afraid of needles, so I can't say I've ever had one, but I do know several people who will attest to its assistance), the best thing you can do now is to introduce more heat and dryness into your diet. Your best bet is meat, especially beef stew. :)

Thankyou for your reply. Just a couple of points. Its the middle of summer here in New Zealand and i need to be careful with proteins as I have a dodgy kidney that has been a little achey lately but i do love spicey food especially hot curries and chillies:)

Kaiousei no Senshi
01-06-2009, 01:56 AM
XD!

Ah! That's right! I always forget that whole equator, tilt of the Earth thing. I'm sorry. Since it's hot and dry outside for summer, being out in it (not all the time of course) could be good for you too.

I'd tell the acupuncturist about that kidney of yours.

lillyjgc
01-06-2009, 03:31 AM
Yes, I agree with all of the above and would just like to add one more thing:
As you are taking assertive action to lose weight, I'd look for a day when you have a positive mars aspect, as you have noted.:) Mars in cap is dignified so now is a fairly good time. As you will need to exercise more also to lose weight, a positive mars can give you the stamina and willpower to persevere.I always begin new projects after the moon has emerged from combustion (new moon). When jupiter transited my first house, *last time*, I gained weight.This time though, I lost weight! Go figure....:confused:
Good luck.
Cheers,
Lillyjgc

rogue_red
01-06-2009, 04:18 AM
yes, i agree with all of the above and would just like to add one more thing:
As you are taking assertive action to lose weight, I'd look for a day when you have a positive mars aspect.Mars in cap is dignified so now is a fairly good time. As you will need to exercise more also to lose weight, a positive mars can give you the stamina and willpower to persevere.
Good luck.
Cheers,
Lillyjgc

Thankyou lilly, Im so glad i came across the configuration for tomorrow. Have a look at the charts and see what you think:D
3359

3360

3361

I chose this day because of its positive connections to my own mars and transiting saturns influence to my 6th. Also in about a week transiting mars will form a grand trine to my natal mars and natal pluto which has transiting saturn conj atm. Regardless of finding the appropriate astrological alignment I need and want to do this even though I am really quite scared (terrified!)of the consequences. By transforming the outer I will be taking control of the inner...and its about time:)

rogue_red
01-06-2009, 04:39 AM
I would consider actually starting right now with the retrograde Saturn. It's a good time to make resolutions that 'stick'. I certainly hope you will address your eating patterns first, and worry about the 'diet' afterwards, although that of course should be considered. :)

Another thought: have you considered either acupuncture or Chinese herbal medicine to address your thyroid and metabolic problems? It certainly sounds to me like you have too much damp and cold in your system, which is why your metabolism is sluggish, you have little appetite, and you tend to eat at night. This can cause quite an imbalance in your body and affect everything from your moods to the way you carry your weight. If you sort out your internal imbalances first, it is likely that your weight issues will disappear by themselves with only a few changes to the way you eat, what you eat, etc.

Seriously...consider a consultation with an acupuncturist. It can have fantastic results.

AG:)

Im not sure what happened but i posted a reply to you ag and now its gone! lol. Anyway, thankyou for your advice. Firstly just to clarify a point. I dont beleive in diets, any changes i make will be lifestyle changes. I read some really interesting stuff about eudaimonia-

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates)Socrates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates)' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates)philosophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy), as it is represented in (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates)Plato (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato)'s early dialogues, contains two related claims about eudaimonia. The first is the strong inter-dependence of eudaimonia, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates)virtue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue) ( (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates)aretē (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arete_(excellence))), and (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates)knowledge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge) ( (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates)epistemē (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episteme)): (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates)virtue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue) is a sort of knowledge, perhaps 'knowledge of good and bad', and it is this knowledge that is required to reach the ultimate good, with eudaimonia being the prime candidate for this ultimate good. The second, sometimes called "psychological (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates)eudaimonism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudaimonism)" or "Socratic intellectualism", is the claim that the ultimate good, eudaimonia, is what all human desires and actions aim to achieve.
Plato's middle dialogues present a somewhat different position. In the (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates)Republic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_(dialogue)), we find a (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates)moral psychology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_psychology) more complex than psychological eudaimonism: we do not only desire our ultimate good; rather the soul, or mind, has three motivating parts - a rational, spirited (approximately, emotional), and appetitive part - and each of these parts has its own desired ends. Eudaimonia, then, is not simply acquired through knowledge, it requires the correct psychic ordering of this tripartite soul: the rational part must govern the spirited and appetitive part, thereby correctly leading all desires and actions to eudaimonia and the principal constituent of eudaimonia, virtue.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudaimonia

It was this text that inspired me toward intergration. Ive always been like a box of fire works thats been accidently set alight...always going off in all directions without any real purpose, so now its time to change:)

As for your advice about an acupuncturist, I think thats a great idea. Ive been having some weird medical issues lately with my kidneys and swollen knuckles on my hands and im not content to just take another pill. I want to deal to the root of the problem, its time i took responsibility for the choices I made that were not in my healths best interests.
If you have any good links on the "damp/cold" type thing i'd appreciate it.:)

archergirl
01-06-2009, 11:00 AM
Hi there,

You can do a general google search for 'Traditional Chinese Medicine' and get some good sites. Here's one. http://www.tcmpage.com/

It's a very different philosophy than Western medicine, but is very effective on many maladies that Western medicine can only prescribe pills for. It's definitely worth exploring.

AG:)

rogue_red
01-06-2009, 06:13 PM
Hi there,

You can do a general google search for 'Traditional Chinese Medicine' and get some good sites. Here's one. http://www.tcmpage.com/

It's a very different philosophy than Western medicine, but is very effective on many maladies that Western medicine can only prescribe pills for. It's definitely worth exploring.

AG:)

Thanks ag, it was really interesting to note that most of my medical issues were connected with the middle and lower burner and with too much damp/cold in my system. My doctor thinks i may have rheumatoid arthritis as for the past 18 months i have had recurrent inflammation, bilaterally, of the ankle knee hip elbow wrist and finger joints. I have also had recurrent kidney infections, candida albanicus, gastro reflux, sleep pattern disruptions, dizzy spells and lethargy. I find this really frustrating as i normally keep very good health and hate being slowed down by anything. Chinese medicine isnt big here in NZ but I know of a couple of very good herbalists who may be able to recommend somewhere that can help. Thanks again for your support and help.:)