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06-03-2008, 09:33 AM
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Deceptive medical companies: Neptune in virgo generation?
I'm not sure if some of you are ready to hear this......I'm so frustrated by the deceptions of the A.M.A. (American Medical Association) (and the Australian Medical Association), that I have to spill the beans. I realise that you may find this a bit shocking (I know that I do), but I don't see any easy way around that. The A.M.A has such a hugely responsible position in society , which makes it harder to believe that they would be so irresponsible with the lives of their fellow humans. Did you know that members of the A.M.A. are also shareholders of major pharmacutical companies? Talk about a conflict of interest! This scenario can lead to approval of drugs and medical procedures before they have been properly tested, in order to keep the profits of the major pharmacutical companies in the billions of dollars. Dont believe me? Have you heard of Thalidomide? In the 1960s it was given to pregnant women as a "cure" for morning sickness, unfortunately it also caused birth defects in the babies of many of those women, major defects like no arms, no legs etc. This is only one example of untested drugs being pushed through the approval process in the name of making a quick buck. I hate to think how many others there are. The major pharmacutical companies are only interested in man made drugs, that is they wont put millions or billions of dollars of funding into finding "naturally occuring" drugs or medicines because you cant patent a natural plant or animal, so that means that they cant make boatloads of money using natural medicines! So what happens is the natural cures are not pursued at all, in fact some of the natural cures are made illegal so that they wont eat into the profits made from selling man made drugs or treatments. There are several natural cures for Cancer available, a search on the web will find these cures, try "essiac tea", which is a cure from the native Americans, passed down to a lady nurse named "Cassie", (Cassie spelt backwards is where the Essiac name came from.) How do you think the native Americans survived for so long , they probably know more about natural medicines than what we will ever know. Another natural cure is Apricot kernels, (this one is illegal in the state that I live in). Inside of an apricot is a seed, inside the seed is a kernel, the kernel contains mi nute amounts of "Cyanide" which kills cancer cells. Wait a minute, isn't that a poison I hear you ask? Only if large doses are taken! The amount contained in one kernel is extremely small. A friend of mine was diagnosed with cancer all through her body around 5 years ago, her doctor gave her around 6 months to live and told her to "take a holiday". Her partner told her that she couldn't afford to take a holiday, as she had to save for a coffin!! Did she lay down and die? NO, she took the bull by the horns, used the internet to learn about alternative medicines, and decided on Apricot kernels. Today she is alive and well, cancer free!! She started with 10 kernels a day, and worked her way up to 50 a day, which was the maximum, dose that she could take without getting "the shits" as she put it. The A.M.A is aware that apricot kernels will kill cancer cells,and have admitted so, but are in the business of making money, so they decided to ban them, using the excuse of the possibility of overdosing. Who can count? If you can't take the correct amount of a drug then someone else should be giving you the dose anyway as with all drugs. The real reason they are banned is because of the profit loss the medical industry will have to take when everyone stops having conventional treatments. Chemotherapy is now receiving a lot of bad press from some doctors, the side effects are just too severe, it weakens the immune system, which is what keeps cancer at bay in a normal healthy body, so even if you do kill the cancer cells with chemo, chances are that you might have a relapse if your immune system is damaged, so more chemo is needed, more dollars in profit for the medical industry while people suffer enourmously, needlessly. I've been hoping that Pluto's journey through Capricorn will expose the often corrupt medical industry, but that could take up to 15 or so years, I can't sit back and watch this happen anymore! Check it out for yourself!
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06-03-2008, 04:56 PM
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Re: Deceptive medical companies: Neptune in virgo generation?
Well, now you know why ignorance is man's worst enemy. I doubt many people are aware that they could die from an internal bleeding if they take aspirin before, during or after they drink a beer....Or that they may get their livers damaged by taking acetaminophen or ibuprofen and drinking alcohol. Everything gets worse when people can read on internet that mixing aspirin and beer can prevent hangovers. Yes! You can find that harmful information posted by those whose own ignorance makes them recommend others to do what they do.
The Pharmaceutical Companies keep the truth...Or should I say deception? away from public eye through the enormous financial power backing the industry. There are some serious scientists that have written about this huge lie concerning cancer and chemotherapy, but I guess the valuable information on these books is soon veiled, neutralised by the overwhelming advertising campaigns of the Pharmaceutical Industry, or simply forgotten by the masses. After all, they think, if these doctors/laboratories say that something it's safe, then it's safe...Why would they lie?
People who have a loved one dying from cancer just need to believe that there is a cure. They need some hope to hold on to. The problem is that sometimes the cure is worse than the illness. If someone dies from cancer despite the "new magical drugs" that the World Pharmacopeia offers, a whole family mourns...But first, the Industry gets until the last cent of their bank account.
There is also the fact that some people feel more comfortable with orthodox medicine. I cannot deny its help and value when a virulent infection attacks, an emergency surgery is in order or a life threatening situation arises, but there are so many health problems that can be controlled without depressing our immune systems with medications that in the long run, do more damage than good, that other options would be worthy of looking into.
Few people know how helpful Natural Medicine can be. They need to explore and look for the best alternative therapy for their problems. The thing is that most of them have the wrong idea of that " if it's cheap, it's not good". Even creative visualisation can make wonders. I know of many cases of people with cancer who used it and they are alive and well today. Maybe we will be lucky and see a few big fat lies exposed now that Neptune has gone retrograde.
Carole
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06-03-2008, 08:04 PM
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Re: Deceptive medical companies: Neptune in virgo generation?
caprising!
thanks for your post.
i got your back completely.
zeitgeistmovie.com
also sicko the michael moore movie
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06-03-2008, 08:29 PM
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Re: Deceptive medical companies: Neptune in virgo generation?
DUH!!!
They dont want to find a cure for cancer......
If they did they would lose money. PERIOD!
I agree....
I also dispense these drugs on a daily basis, how sad.
As a medical professional I want to help others and teach, yet the same time I have to be a part of this growing operation of monopolies!
Virgo a sign that wants to help, a giving, serving sign-
Neptune takes over and puts blinders on those that serve-
I have a virgo moon-
Funny I had mentioned in another thread that most MD's are virgos.....and nurses
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06-04-2008, 08:01 AM
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Re: Deceptive medical companies: Neptune in virgo generation?
Carole write "Maybe we will be lucky and see a few big fat lies exposed now that Neptune has gone retrograde.  ".............It's already started in Australia, 2 weeks ago the front page of the newspapers was full of the story of a senior surgeon based in Melbourne who operated on people who didn't really need surgery, in order to make more money, among other deceptive practises. I'm not sure if he resigned or got sacked, but it's reassuring to know that there are people out there in the medical industry who have high morals, and who arn't afraid to speak up against the seemingly untouchable medical professionals who havn't developed a conscience. Nicholas H , thanks for the movie recomendations, but honestly I coudn't sit through another docco right now, I think that i've O.Deed on them in the last few years!  . Smiling steph, personally, doctors are among my favourite types of humans, along with nurses and waitresses, (the very large majority of them are trying to help (serve) people, a physical/and or mental expression of love!!) if your in there doing your part, then big hugs to you  Learning about these types of deceptions can be emotionally/spiritually/mentally shocking, but thats one of the reasons why everyone here studies astrology, to learn, even though we will sometimes encounter things that we would rather not find. I have another term that I use for students of astrology...."Spiritual Warriors"
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06-04-2008, 10:19 AM
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Re: Deceptive medical companies: Neptune in virgo generation?
I would second the Zeitgeist movie recommendation. I would also say that this is really a post about Chiron, moreso than Pluto because this is exactly Chiron's domain, but I would imagine that as Chiron makes it's first self-return (i.e. when Chiron returns to its radix position since its discovery in 1977) we will see this particular wound of healing itself healed. I surely hope so. The problems with allopathic medicine are beginning to manifest at a level that will surely undermine its credibility before much longer. I read that 80% of the world's healthcare budgets are spent on the last 90 days of life! That is an astonishing fact when you think about it, and then children die for want of a dollar of rice. It is too incongruous to even think about, it makes me want to weep.
But it has to change and it soon will, that's for sure: it is what keeps me going.
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06-04-2008, 02:49 PM
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Re: Deceptive medical companies: Neptune in virgo generation?
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Originally Posted by Carole
Few people know how helpful Natural Medicine can be. They need to explore and look for the best alternative therapy for their problems. The thing is that most of them have the wrong idea of that " if it's cheap, it's not good". Even creative visualisation can make wonders. I know of many cases of people with cancer who used it and they are alive and well today. Maybe we will be lucky and see a few big fat lies exposed now that Neptune has gone retrograde.
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I think part of it could be the lack of "legal certification" (for lack of a better word) that people have as well with the NM community. Every day I consider going to school for Naturopathic Medicine, but seeing as that there are only 4 accredited schools in the US, it makes it a little tough rather than just pursuing an MD. I just think people are a little leary without the whole accredidation thing.. but the traditional medical community probably doesn't want that happening either!! But I think you're right too that people think if it's cheap than it's not good... hopefully the change of the world will happen!!
Aine
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