translation of light question

[tikana]

Hi Peeps

Translation of Light When one planet separates from the conjunction or aspect of another and soon after forms the conjunction or aspect with a third it is said to translate the light of the one it leaves to the third In horary astrology it denotes aid by a person described the the <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=fDkDAAAAQAAJ&dq=translation+of+light+hora ry&pg=PA173&ci=77,461,802,199&source=bookclip">Th e science of the stars By Alfred John Pearce</a>

so here is a question .. if planet a and planet b do not meet BUT moon separates from planet B *heavier* to planet A *lighter* and moon rules 10th house being in cancer.. could it be a fertility professional?
and why some books say that Translation of light can be labeled as such only when the planet separates from a faster moving planet to a slower one. Is there any reason behind this?

Alan Leo gives an example on page 135
Saturn - 20 aries
Jupiter - 13 aries
Mars - 14 aries

so Mars is leaving jupiter to connect with Saturn!
There is no mention if
Saturn is - 13 aries
jupiter is - 20 aries
mars is 14 aries

mars leaving Saturn *slower* to join Jupiter (the faster)

thanks
Tik

[archergirl]

It's still a translation or collection of sorts. What's important is whether or not the planets make connections to one another, and Planet A brings together Planets B and C, without being impeded by other planets or retrogradation or whatever. If Planet A is carrying light and the matter can perfect, that's a translation.

10th house moon could indeed mean that, if it's (I assume) a pregnancy question. I guess we'd have to see a chart to know for sure what's going on...

AG

[tikana]

Thanks AG

yeah it is a pregnancy

here is the chart



basically here is the scoop

she wants to get pregnant and has beein a relationship for a quite some time. bloody blah her doctor told her that there is problem with her heart BUT he said not to worry. Another doctor is worried that it might affect or put her into a danger. 3rd doctor agrees with 1st one but says if there is a problem with a heart during a childbirth, c-section! Now this is on my table. Quite frankly i dont see a problem other than ruler of 5th house being sterile!

I dont think this is a surgery ...
cause it is like hmm for surgery you need Mars/Saturn/Uranus hard aspect to moon/ruler of asce

moon - no aspectto Mars / Saturn *the baby itself* / Uranus *trine*
venus - again no aspect to mars / saturn *the baby* left the aspect* / Uranus sextile approaching

also Jupiter/ruler of 9th/any planets of 9th to get science involved

moon opposes jupiter *jupiter is weak plus debilitated towards moon*
venus does trine jupiter but sun gets to jupiter before venus *so that is falling out*
merc/venus - nothing
moon in 9th sextile to venus

to clear blocked fallopian tubes you need a surgery
hormones can be balanced out by proper nutrition - no surgery required
i was thinking what if she might have miscarriage neptune near 5th / uranus is in 5th but 10th house is strong .. and it rules the professional if that is the case.
but then it could be surprize pregnancy!

Moon rules nutrition as well as veggies
Now this is interesting cause she is on strict nutrition.. no meat, no bread, just veggies and healthy stuff
she cant to go fertility doctor cause her insurance does not cover it .. i am also thinking along the lines of accupuncture but i cant find what rules accupuncture?

so there you have it!

Thankies *CANT WAIT TILL I GET HOME!*
Tik

[archergirl]

I would say it's a 'yes' simply by the Moon applying to sextile Venus in fertile or semi-fertile signs without the translation. That the Moon translates from Saturn to Venus is even better. I wouldn't worry about the rest of it; seems fairly clear, yes? Although some of the receptions are troubling, but I'm unsure how much they play into a question like this...

AG

[tikana]

Archer

that is what worrying me the most is the reception

my most wanted to YES chart ended up being a NO *i found out answer yesterday* because of bloody receptions and dignity.

Aspect was a trine!

Grrrr

Thanks!

Tik

[archergirl]

Well, I'm thinking that Saturn is in the sign of Venus' fall, so for some reason maybe her body 'rejects' the baby (considering what you've said, this makes sense); the Moon, her emotional desires, while 'compatible' with Venus, is *not* compatible with Saturn, again. Again, a problem with 'baby'.

If she wants to be healthy on a veggie-only diet, you need to tell her she needs to make sure to get enough iron. Especially if she's having heart problems.

I would say she'll probably get pregnant. Whether it's a good idea or whether it'll be successful is another story...

AG

[tikana]

Archer

remember i hinted to you ... that neptune and uranus are bad omens in this chart!

i am fearing that she will get pregnant but something will be wrong and might require abortion .. maybe we should look into the baby's 8th house?

8th house is strong mercury rules! grrrr i wonder! 6th house from 5th is strong!

her 8th house is strong .. her 6th is so so so

satuirn is peregrine not liking this!

could it be that the baby will be born prematurely?

Thanks
Tik

[starlink]

Hi Tik, AG, I am a bit confused here. Tik you said that :

my most wanted to YES chart ended up being a NO *i found out answer yesterday*

So if I understand it well, she thought she was pregnant and was not?
But the question is: will I be pregnant in August and we are not yet in August, so maybe AG's conclusion for a YES, because of Moon translating light from Saturn to Venus, can still be right after all. I would also think Yes with such a translation.
You did not put Uranus and Neptune into this chart Tik, and rightly so. Therefore I cannot find "fault" with them.

that neptune and uranus are bad omens in this chart!

William the Lilly would not have found a negative indication via these two, so if things go wrong (again) then they must indeed be found in the mutual receptions. Personally I think it is a bit too far fetched to already start looking at the babies house and such. Maybe later, when she should be pregnant again.

Look, Saturn is in quite a few mutual receptions with Mercury. What does Merc. rule? 12th and 9th house. 9th house rules learned people, specialists maybe? I would conclude that the pregnancy could be helped by specialists looking after her (or a specialist). I would not worry about Uranus. He is after all modern ruler of the 5th of pregnancy and in the 5th of children. A sudden unexpected pregnancy, quite likely.

My thoughts on this....

Cheers, Star

[tikana]

Starlink

"Hi Tik, AG, I am a bit confused here. Tik you said that :

Quote:

my most wanted to YES chart ended up being a NO *i found out answer yesterday*


So if I understand it well, she thought she was pregnant and was not?"

Starlink, No.. I was saying this in reference to anohter chart on totally different manner which was resolved 3 days ago... There was a trine, moon was not void, but bloody receptions and dignities were not there! It looked like there was an opportunity, an interest but lack or resources killed it!

i omitted those 2 out of the chart
Uranus was on the border with leaving 6th
Neptune is about to enter

August came about cause she is on some vitamins that are balancing something in her body not pre-natal vitamins

WOW she is getting pregnant! by the way, Winter spotted an interesting thing. She did not know this. the girl will be giving birth outside of the US. Her boyfriend +/- part time lives in Denmark and he has this fixation on "my child must be born in the land of my predesessors, the Vikings!"

thanks a mucho!

Tik

[starlink]

Hi Tik, oh well, then these receptions of Saturn with Merc. could point to the 9th house, being abroad birth!!

Look, Saturn is in quite a few mutual receptions with Mercury. What does Merc. rule? 12th and 9th house.

, so not "learned" person.

Cheers,Star.