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Old 04-17-2008, 03:05 AM
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Question Acting Parental

I'm counseling a gay male couple, one of who acts overly parental a former lover, paying for his education, buying him a car, not wanting to ask him to move out even though they've stopped being lovers and the guy is still freeloading, letting him get away with not contributing anything to the household including not even doing chores or getting groceries or cooking. The psychological dynamic is very parental, as is the age difference.

The new partner suggested it was a Saturn influence at work, but I don't think so. Even though Saturn is commonly read as a parent indicator, I see this more as a Ceres dynamic in how the older partner is nurturing the forner lover, and an Astraea energy in how he's having a hard time letting go and moving on.

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Re: Acting Parental

What you call parental I call acting like a doormat...

Saturn's only connection with parents is that he signifies the father in a nocturnal chart, and anciently his Temple was the Fourth house.

Going to have to agree with the Pisces idea coffee mentioned, but I can't agree with the proposed Cererean influence. It sounds like he can't say 'no' to me.
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Old 04-17-2008, 05:19 PM
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Re: Acting Parental

Thanks for the feedback. I can see how you'd think "doormat" from what I described, though it's not the former lover who is asking for these things. He just more than gladly takes, like a teenager who isn't required to work for an allowance.

Psychologically, the client in question -- the ultra giver -- is operating out of guilt and overcompensating (over-protecting and over-nurturing) for a situation in his past in which a lover accidently died when the client, he feels, wasn't there to prevent it. He's transfered his remorse and grief for that into being over-indulgent to assuage his guilt. That's where I came up with Ceres -- the need to nurturer a replacement relationship and nurture himself through release of guilt.

I don't normally associate Pisces with being too nice per se, so thanks for that reminder about the victim/martyr/ self-sacrifice complex there. That's a better interpretation.

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Re: Acting Parental

post a composite,it would be helpful
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Davidson would be more philosophically sound.
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i don't do davidson composites
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Re: Acting Parental

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i don't do davidson composites
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why dont you, Rahu?
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i don't do davidson composites
Sorry to hear that. I don't do Composite charts, that's why I asked for the Davidson. Davidson charts are philosophically sound, whereas the Composite charts are a faux-horoscope. That's my logic, at least.
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