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Old 03-02-2012, 09:20 PM
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Hey, Interesting thread here! I'm a guitarist with a successful career start up and I've recently stepped into a rut when my singer couldn't pull through one day.

Thank you transiting Mars return / retrograde and transiting Neptune conj my N.N... To step out of this rut I decided to take up singing myself. Judging practically on my progress thus far my voice is sounding fairly solid, and has presence and personality... so far, so good. haha

Looking at my own chart and reading this thread there were a couple of things that clicked in my chart;

- Asc in Gemini 8 degrees.

- I have a locomotive chart with Jupiter leading in Cancer 01 degrees in the 2nd house. (Jupiter perfectly opposes my Uranus in Capricorn 01 degrees)


- Venus in Virgo 17 degrees. (critical for mutable I believe)


- Moon in Libra in the 5th house 17 degrees. (forms a semi-sextile to my Venus)


- Mercury in Virgo 3 degrees conj. Mars in Virgo 2 degrees in the 3rd house using the whole sign / equal house system (
both planets are conj. my 25 degree Leo south node)

- Chiron in Cancer 12 degrees in the 2nd house.


- Sun in Leo 14 degrees in the 3rd house.


- Mars quintile Pluto in Scorpio 12 degrees.


- North Node in Aquarius in (10th house placidus - 9th house whole sign / equal house)


With eastern placements this changes to;


- Asc in Taurus 14 degrees.


- Locomotive chart with Jupiter in Gemini leading 7 degrees in the 2nd house.


- Venus in 23 degrees Leo


- Moon in Virgo in the 5th house 23 degrees. (forms a semi-sextile to my Venus)


- Mercury in Leo 13 degrees conj. Mars in Leo 12 degrees in the 3rd house using the whole sign / equal house system.


- Chiron in Gemini in the 2nd house. (Forgot the degrees)


- Sun in Cancer 21 degrees in the 3rd house.


- Mars quintile Pluto in Libra 22 degrees.


- Same nodal stuff going on.



Based off some these aspects and placements, does this point towards a solo career in both singing and playing guitar?
Put the chart up so we can "see it"

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Old 03-02-2012, 11:10 PM
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Put the chart up so we can "see it"
You got it! I usually use a different system for the eastern placements that astro.com didn't have so the degrees are a little off. Two new things that I just spotted is the PoF quintile Pluto along with Chiron trine Pluto being my strongest aspect hmm.

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Old 03-02-2012, 11:43 PM
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You got it! I usually use a different system for the eastern placements that astro.com didn't have so the degrees are a little off.
Which system do you use ?

I see you've put up your sideral chart too, not many astrologers here use that zodiac division .. do you have positive experience with it ?

I myself dont use the equal house system .. but i'll look at both house systems, just give me a sec .. ah, and the Mars/Merc are out of sign to be considered in conjunction with SN at such a wide orb .. but thats ihmo ofc ~
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Old 03-03-2012, 01:10 AM
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Re: Indications of Singing Talents/Interest

I usually use the Krishnamurti system. The signs sometimes make more sense to the way I perceive energies.

Would my chart come off as Scorponic because of Pluto's presence in the 6th house, making Merc, Mars, and Venus's energy output run through pluto? Making my music very intense, and hypnotizing. During live performances I haven't yet seen an audience in such syncopation with the music it's as if I have captivated them for the time I'm playing, do the stars align with my voice to further my intensity?

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Old 03-03-2012, 03:17 AM
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You know, Leos usually tend to rub me off the wrong way (i'm Aqua, the opposite) but your struts i can somehow eaven take as charming . . think is your Moon over my AC

Look now, taken your NN, you're lucky i'm here .. I'll help you a bit with the perspective I myself have Pluto on AC / squaring my Sun, the late you do too. You know, intensity isnt a bad thing, but here you arent messing with fire, but with *plutonium* Make sure you dont destroy yourself or others for the matter, in the process. Musicians have always been part of my circle, i'm an artist myself, i know the drill babe .... Once you overstep your limit, Pluto shows no mercy, as he gave - he will make sure to take back everything, to the last bit. If you handle it badly, that is. The reason i see you pressing the Pluto issue is because you have the Scorp sign intercepted in the 6th house. It's not an easy task for you to openly engage this area and energy, but being by defalut isolated as it is, it has it's due time to build up in substance and mass .. if you have found the keys that open this "room", as you report you have, there is all the stamina you need to deliver mindblowing performances you are reporting about And in the 6th, DIY or DIE, repeatedly, repeatedly. In the MAyan system, the 6th tone is called the rhytmic one


Krishnamurti and equal asside, i am working with the standard chart, but i do like the way you're framing the issue energy parameters








So you are a Leo/Libra blend with Mars on Mercury, Aries on 12th cusp .. performing is something you're very acustomed to, to say the least. Oratory capabilities, forceful leadership, stands all in your past.

Having Merc/Mars so close to your SN would indicate you could still be strongly bound to your last personality incarnation with a pending unfoldment. Your SN on your Sun/Mars+Merc midpoint makes me think eaven more so .... this midpoint could be one important piece of clue, make sure to study it. Aries on 12th usually advocates for a prev-life-violent-death btw.

Your chart shape is in fact a bowl-wanabe-locomotive .. A locomotive usually includes a grand trine (but not necessarily), it's spread 240° wide, i.e. minus four signs .. You have a 189° spread, what means 5 empty signs + 20°, and the max limit for a bowl is 190°. The last planets to form the pattern are all the outer slow moving ones .. and they werent bound to go anywhere soon

Jupiter on the 1/2 cusp, a personality 'larger than life' that sucessfully uses oneslef to expand (in) life.. It's your chart pattern leading panet too, so you sure do put yourself in the forefront, a Leo Sun enables you do so marvelously, with a touch a class feeding by the Libra Moon.

Now, what i saw and thought instantly after reading your first post and looking at your chart, is this stelium in the 8th .. rapresenting your 'magic crew' .. all retrogrades .. they're "writen in your skys", but they'll come later in life, and probbably be older too, and be sure, 'climbing' to that 'meeting point' will be made no easy for you, it's partly up to you - partly up to others to storm through all the dramma and let life live itself. "Getting out of your sunny shadows" > NN 10th/Sun 4th. Letting go of oneself, big or little it be, within the widest human energy field, side-stepping for a bigger picture > NN Aqua. Then, your SN in Leo, Sun there too, singletone fire *take notice*, closing square Pluto, yes, you have mastered this aspect, now you are disseminating. And that's the only real hard aspect your Sun forms, that's the WHY you are feeling the Scorp energy SO FAMILIAR and yours

Now, about your vocalist 'perspectives' .. First thing i want to make sure, if you arent tone deaf (lol), and utmost important, have love for it, astrology doesnt have any substantial say in the matter. You practice, you master it, you get better, you know the drill. What's there to say though, Taurus is intercepted in your 12th house, possibly implying you could find it strenuous to take this role full time on .. But dont take me for granted, i dont know you - you try, you'll see

What i could advice you though, with that Libra Moon and Jup in Cancer, search 4 a female lead voice .. i think you could be quite satisfyed with the outcome .. energy rebalance

Btw i'm sure you are 'loosing' lots of 'time' with that Libra Moon of yours .. but the synchronization you're experiencing with the crowds is due to it

And, lol, when you contemplated posting about it, Moon was transiting your AC and tr NN is over your DC now Tr Pluto over your Neptune, the trailing planet of your chart, the output .. Yeah, Hades is certainly visiting your muses now .... putting *plutonium* in their baskets If you want to stream "with the flow", be sure to step out of yourself enough to meet others on equal ground, dont rush .. AND LET DIE WHAT NEEDS TO GO, in your music, and all the way arround it. That tr Mars zaping over your nt Venus sure speaks about reorganizing your 'likings' and priorities, and calibrating the way you 'display' them .... Btw, that's dead on your Sun/Moon midpoint, Venus exactly in the middle, such a beautiful aspect if i may say so.

All the midpoints you can explore here btw :
http://johnsandbach.com/?cat=33



Good luck *~
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Old 03-03-2012, 06:31 AM
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Thank You I plan on taking lessons in the summer.

Can you check out my natal chart though. I'm really interested if there are any "NATURAL" singing talent indicators in my chart. I REALLY want to know
Well one thing Tim Wilson told me is that , there are NO guaranteed aspects for a talented singer or voice which is known to people ...
everybody with moon in 5th or venus in 5th DOESNT have to be a singer ~ they can be related to playing a guitar or someother artistic/emotional way of communicating ...

but if ur looking for "artistic" talents , then I guess houses such as :
3rd house
5th house
10th house
7th house

should be gud , 3rd house = house of communication
5th house = house of self-expression
10th house = the way the world sees u
7th house = house of love ...

Planets which could give u an "artistic" edge over others :
1. moon (emotions)
2. venus (love/arts)
3. jupiter (growth , although ul need aspects to this planet)
4. mercury (knowledge/communication)
5. neptune (imagination)
6. North Node (universal direction)


Note:
According to me 7th house is important for singing , acting or any artistic field , cause 7th house = love .
and according to me any artist to be gud or successful either has to be in a state of love (with a person or a thing or his profession) or should have gone through the state of love and a hard break up ......



P.S : I would like it , if seniors of this forum could comment on this post of mine , if I have missed out something , so that others(including me ) can learn from it .

Thank you,
Jai~
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