This is going to sound crazy to u.

KayBug · #1 03-02-2008, 01:20 AM

I am going to tell u that I have another person inside my head who is alike and not like me.
This person gives me a hard time when I am tryingt get it right but yet she is right.
This person is saying to me oh yeah they r really gonna think ur nuts. Its not a voice so I'm not skitz.
Oh yeah they really think ur nuts now. Good for u Kay.
Any help in reading this.

KayBug · #2 03-02-2008, 01:29 AM

I share things gradually as I begin to trust my friends here.
KayBug

Moulin · #3 03-02-2008, 01:31 AM

Hi Kaybug

Could be your guide? Some of them, especially when you start off have a sense of humor!!

Does he/she advise you aswell? or just tell you that you are nuts? lol

KayBug · #4 03-02-2008, 01:36 AM

She is good for me, tells me I have truly messed up and says to me "well what u gonna do now". Very hard on me at times and other times laughs with me. Crazy?

KayBug · #5 03-02-2008, 01:38 AM

At any rate, since I can't get rid of her I guess I'll keep her.

Moulin · #6 03-02-2008, 01:39 AM

Yes, keep her. Just ask that she come to you in the light.

Will make sure she is not a negative spirit in disguise

KayBug · #7 03-02-2008, 02:20 AM

Is she part of that good intuition that I have? I can't separate from her no matter how hard I try. I laugh with her and she say well ur stuck with me just like I am stuck with her. She will say to me u know u ******* that up and I will say yeah I did now how and I gonna fix it. Sometimes she gives me ideas and then other times she says well ur old enough to know that yourself.
ugh....But I like her.
Is she the other me.

deanna · #8 03-02-2008, 03:12 AM

KayBug-

I can relate because at times I convince or tell myself (that voice inside) that I don't know what I am doing at my job, I will never get ahead - etc. Then I realize that if I listen to this voice, and believe it, I will create exactly what that voice is telling me. The negative thoughts and words will become reality and hurt my mind/body and sprit. . Very powerful stuff.

I have to create my own reality and tell/believe in myself that it will be okay, I am very good at what I do for a living and its only going to get better even if things around me are stressful.

I have to turn the voice away and not go there-even though it’s so easy to listen to it.

I could hold grudges, feel sorry for myself, and live in the past and think of all the wrong doing and unfairness that has happened. When my feelings and thoughts (that voice inside) start going in that direction I have to stop it. It gets me no where. It only hurts me. It resolves nothing. It keeps me away from good energy and good things to come. I try to envision/feel/and speak as if good things will happen. I need to create my own inner positive reality even though it can sometimes be totally opposite of what I am dealing with on a daily basis in my life. If I don’t do this the bad keeps winning and it will eventually affect my health.

The negative is always looking for attention. We can react to it, but it does not win when we do not grant it our continuous attention.

So much easier said than done though. All weekend I have been flip flopping between telling myself I don’t know what I am doing at my job, and that I am going to get fired (I can really do some stinking thinking and snowball) and then trying to convince myself to being gentle with myself and that its going to be okay, I am trying my best, I am a hard worker-etc. I still feel totally stressed and regretting Monday morning even through its only Saturday night. I am ruining the present moment for myself. I hope Sunday I feel better and get back into the “It’s going to be okay” mode.

The question is: Is the voice interfering with your happiness? Can you turn it around so the voice encourages you and becomes your own personal cheerleader?

All we have is ourselves to rely on for support. If we can create good self-talk it makes life a little easier.

Many blessings and happiness wished your way-

-De

KayBug · #9 03-02-2008, 03:20 AM

My voice kicks my butt almost all the time. My voice is right. The only way I can get rid of it is to take alot of thorazine which I have convinced my doctor I don't need much of anymore that I am doing better. So even though I still have script for a small amout I don't take it anymore.

deanna · #10 03-02-2008, 12:56 PM

KayBug,

An internal voice is a part of yourself, or thinking to yourself, and the origin is known.

If this voice is separate from yourself or ego, and you feel the voice is always right, this maybe cause for concern.

Maybe a good discussion about this with those who can really help, maybe your doctor, could put this in perspective.

Many well wishes to you.

-De

KayBug · #11 03-02-2008, 02:09 PM

The voice is not always right and I call her on it. In the ned though she lets me know I did ***** up and we laugh together about it

tsquare · #12 03-02-2008, 03:35 PM

This is fairly common.
It may be a split off piece of your self as well.
Ask for the original time and location of "it".
Find your current self in relation, in space, location to "it".
Ask for its name.
Ask for its begining and ending.
If it is giving you ideas do they come in picture form, or entierly vocal within your head or in the space arround the current you, or your body?
Anything negative with it, sensations you do not like? Things you do not want to percieve??

You don't have to answer the last question here.

It sounds that there is space between "you" and "it" where is "you" and where is "it" in relation to one another spaceially or otherwise.... from where could you comunicate to you?,
From where, and or when, could it comunicate to you?

Inside and outside are an odd phenomenon in and of itself.

Carole · #13 03-02-2008, 05:30 PM

Kay:

May I ask why you have been prescribed Thorazine?

Carole

Moulin · #14 03-02-2008, 05:51 PM

GREAT question...

I just read that post and started an 'anti doctor' rampage in my head

Deanna, l am going to have to disagree with you on your 2nd post.
My guides are always right... they have been talking to me now for my entire 40 years in this world and the higher up the ladder l get, the more profound and serious they get.

Everyone can speak to their inner self, the most important thing to figure out is, IS IT my inner self or a spirit/soul that has attached itself to my aura and is having a laugh with me.

Vitamin/mineral imbalances can cause brain imbalance and lead to mental imbalance - over 85% of all mental patients would be 100% cured if they were put on a vit/min program. Instead, doctors prescribe numerous drugs by leading pharmaceutical companies and in return get bonuses which go toward their annual vacation fund!

I do not think Kaybug is in danger of experiencing brain imbalance. I would like to know more however about the circumstances leading up to these 'voice' experiences to determine the source.

Kaybug, do you do any kind of meditation or work that involves healing, psychological work etc please?

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carole

Kay:

May I ask why you have been prescribed Thorazine?

Carole

deanna · #15 03-02-2008, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moulin

GREAT question...

I just read that post and started an 'anti doctor' rampage in my head

Deanna, l am going to have to disagree with you on your 2nd post.
My guides are always right... they have been talking to me now for my entire 40 years in this world and the higher up the ladder l get, the more profound and serious they get.

Whatever works to help. I am not pushing the doctor thing but,

If this voice is separate from KayBugs ego
And the voice is always right
And the voice is negative
And this voice interferes with her day to day living and happiness.

These are key indicators that there could be an imbalance. Kaybug maybe really suffering and needs help.

All words spoke with care and concern.

-De

Moulin · #16 03-02-2008, 07:32 PM

Sure I dig what you are saying.

deanna · #17 03-02-2008, 07:50 PM

Moulin,

I completely believe what you say though about vitamins. There are also food allergies that could be influencing what is going on.

If I had a dollar for every time I have been asked by a family practicing doctor if I am feeling down (In hopes they can do a drug push on anti-depressants). Kind of like a real drug pusher -Eh?

One doctor gave me a prescription for valium just because I looked a little nervous. I promptly ripped it up when I left the office.

Did you know that some anti-depressants contain small traces of PCP?

As you said it’s important to explore all avenues before taking the drug route.

I can on and on about my thoughts vaccinations as well to but I will save that for another post.

Best Wishes,

-De

Moulin · #18 03-02-2008, 07:57 PM

hehe De

None of my kids are vaccinated and they are all healthy bunnies. I basically lied to the social services and said that they were privately vaccinated.
Fighting for ones and ones family's health is a necessity l believe.

I recently went to the US and on CNN news channel they were urging people to get the flu jab :O

Took me hours to calm down over that one!!!

Yes, medicine is great if you are dying or incapacitated, in severe pain or need urgent help.

Antibiotics are rife in London. The doctor almost has them already in his hand when you walk into his surgery, ready to dish out to you.

I wonder if there is an astrology chart for the whole world. It would be interesting to see what links to medicine in relation to self destruction of mankind show up

Carole · #19 03-02-2008, 08:14 PM

Quote:

deanna wrote:
Did you know that some anti-depressants contain small traces of PCP?

Now I wouldn't be surprised by this at all. Most pharmaceutical companies (if not all of them!) know how to do their business to manipulate people as puppets and have them buying their drugs.

Carole

lillyjgc · #20 03-02-2008, 11:56 PM

Kaybug, I'm sorry to hear you are going through all of this-I'll take a look at the chart a little later today.
Cheers, Lillyjgc

deanna · #21 03-03-2008, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moulin

hehe De

None of my kids are vaccinated and they are all healthy bunnies. I basically lied to the social services and said that they were privately vaccinated.
Fighting for ones and ones family's health is a necessity l believe.

I recently went to the US and on CNN news channel they were urging people to get the flu jab :O

Moulin

Good for you! ! Keep up the good fight!

I wish everyone understood that its unatural to treat the body for an illness that has not occured yet.
Also the flu shot does have mercury in it. The U.S is one step away from enforcing all these shots. Just watch!

lillyjgc--
Looking at KayBugs chart The big thing I see is Moon in Scorpio in the 12th house conj. Scorpio Asc. Just as a starting point to help with what she is struggling with.

-De

tsquare · #22 03-03-2008, 06:00 PM

Deanna,

Quote:

Also the flu shot does have mercury in it.

This is why I have avoided having kids up to this point.
I read an ebook on this a while back, Vaccinations with high traces of mercury were being given to babies causing autism, which the pharma, companies denied for a long time but couldn't deny later on...the traces of mercury were so high it is litterally insane, and it is frightenining that they are manditory shots....so many shots at once for babies is absolutely crazy on it's own, but the traces of mercury found were concidered lethal by the weight of the children recieving them. I found the Ebook on a sight called transformind, or transfommind, it was writen by a parent who had their kid go from bright to semi retared just after recieving the shots...make me sick to my stomach just reading it, some children have died after the shots, "mysteriously"...I don't know how I could alow my kids to recieve such a shot....I'd rather not have kids if that is the case.
it absolutely blew me away.
Africa is getting it real bad by what the ebook has to say, the vacinations down there are supossed to have the highest concentration of mercury while they get old outdated garbage from the US, the book may be dated though....who knows whats hapening now with this...I wonder at times if the mercury contents were taken care of or not. The mercury contents have to do with preservation of the shots somehow, or how they are packaged...they know it isn't good, but it's financially more affordable or some such gabage that if people knew this they swould shell out the extra cash for shots without mercury traces......I get the idea that it is intentional, and that both makes me paranoid and upset, angry.
WTF

Unbelievable.
I'm suprised somebody else brought this up.
I wonder at times how many really know about the dangers of these shots.
It took me a while to recover from reading this book...I was so **** upset

.....It is very informative though...if anyone coming across this wants to really read it, I may be able to find the sight that has this free ebook available...it is burried somewhere in my bookmarks I believe..I also have the ebook burried in my location of ebooks on my computer somewhere I believe also.
I have like 5000, ebooks on my computer and it's a **** mess.
I could probably email this book or post it somewhere somehow...if someone is about to have a child I believe this to be an important read.
I don't want my kid to die or have autism......and the research is overwealming in it's discoveries.
The Ex, parent who wrote it recieved a major backlash from the medical community I believe.....it's been a while since i read it, can't quite recall it all.

I don't want to steal your thread Kaybug...this is just something that really bothered me for a while...ever since I came accross it really...
hope you don't mind me binging it up here.
Tsquare

Found the Link, it is here:
http://www.trans4mind.com/

It was contaied when I downloaded the 100 free ebooks about a year ago...should still be there for anyone interested.

THis is the the book

not a link)
Mark Sircus: Cry of the Heart - the Medical Tyranny of Vaccinations

lillyjgc · #23 03-04-2008, 01:38 AM

Kaybug,
At the moment you are undergoing the same difficult transit of mars opposite pluto, as we all are....For you this transit is exacerbated by the fact that transiting mars is also hitting your natal uranus so that becomes part of the upheaval of the mars/pluto transformations.
Uranus is an unpredictable energy and being in your eighth house connects you to the past and matters that are buried inside you.
Mars is the natal ruler of your sixth house and this opposition would thus affect all aspects of your health well-being and peace of mind.
The mars/pluto opposition occurs over your h2/h8 axis, affecting your self-esteem/feelings of self worth etc.
Neptune transiting your third house may also have made it difficult to *see clearly* but soon it will move to your fourth....
I feel that the voices you hear do not come from outside as it were...While a transit of neptune across h3 can bring hallucinations, strong dreams *out of body experiences etc, in your natal chart neptune is inconjunct your sun.I think this describes how your physical well-being is sometimes adversely affected by *neptunian* influences....It can also cause forgetfulness.
Having your natal sun opposite natal saturn gives rise to despondency and depressions.With the transiting sun almost conjunct your natal sun this polarity is activated also which may explain why you are feeling so down at the moment.
I notice that natally you have the moon in scorpio in your twelfth-a tendency to hide your deep feelings...As the moon is in mars' sign this also relates you back to house six....suggesting your hidden/suppressed feelings may adversely impact on your health.Any therapy that involved going deeply into the part of yourself you hide from the world and enabling you to express yourself in an honest and trusting way, would be of benefit to you.(Re-birthing, for instance)
Transiting venus will conjunct your jupiter in a few days...Usually this does bring relief in some form.
I hope this gives you some positive things to think about.(and happy birthday for the 7th!!!)
Cheers, Lillyjgc

Pisceanfool · #24 03-04-2008, 05:09 AM

Well though i can't help much on the astrological front, i can relate to the voices... some are very helpful personally. You say it's not a voice, but i have had a part of me... a lower aspect of myself as put by a shaman friend, trying to keep me from my power... and a "manifestation of self hate" as stated by my guides. Somtimes when i am in a bad mood it will make annoying comments which are usually right. The best way to avoid this is to not let it bother you, and not be very negative about things in general. Being negative or fearful attracts all sorts of less then loving be-ings and can also be an aspect of yourself split off for whatever reason. it's hard to say, i think you really need to consider what has been said... ask where it comes from, what it wants, and what it is. If you are comfortable with the idea... ask your guides/angels for help in prayer or however you wish. consider when this started and why that may be.

i also agree drugs are not the answer... they dont really address the problem, just some quick fix. you have the power to evict this person if they are not helping you. demand they answer your questions, the least it can do for being in YOUR head giving you a hard time. with your close mercury trine uranus it seems you can tap into higher knowledge. the worst thing to do is fear it. The fact that it laughs with you is a good sign... i will tell you my "guides" never are hard on me, never boss me around, actually they can't really tell me exactly what to do most of the time, and are always right. lots of times its just questions to stimulate my own thoughts, somtimes they can't help with certain things either... some things we must learn ourselves. they also say they love me

, they are my best friends (to be honest the whole idea is still kinda strange for me, have not always been in such direct communication). not all things i hear are from a loving source... it depends on what i ask and how i am feeling. the best way to know if it is good for you is how you feel while recieving the messages. you dont need some negative person or be-ing, if they make you sad or feel bad then i say get rid of it. you appear very sensitive to things, and people like that can attract all sorts of less then loving characters. they hunger for power and are attracted to fear.

i don't think you're nuts... it was wrong. you would be crazy if you let it tell you to do things like hurt other people... that's when you become psychotic.

good luck pisces! happy bday on the 7th too.

Namaste

KayBug · #25 03-04-2008, 08:49 PM

I am going to try to answer everyone in this post.
My nerves are truly shot at this moment. So kina bear with me.

I think this is an internal conversation with myself. Seems to be someone else, and I kinda like the thought that it might be as I think they are trying to help me. They do get down on me but they don't leave me without hope that the situation can be fixed or if not forget it.

lilly.... I think u are alot right. My past has been driving me crazy for the last few months. Dredging up old stuff, making me face things I had always put away and I guess said forget it. Doesn't change anything now anyway. The inner voice, if you want to call it that doesn't bring this stuff up. I bring it up and they are trying to help me put it to rest in some way or another. I have other throughs just not espressing them here right now.

tsquare...u have not stolen my thread. I welcome anyone to talk when they need to. Be it about me or themselves. We learn from other people.

Carole...Thorazine is an antipsychotic basically. It is also a heavy duty tranquilier and can be used for other purposes too. At one time for several yrs I was on a fairly good does of it daily. It kept me from as one might say, losing your mind. It kept me in control of being able to manage myself and my home daily, not becoming somewhat psychotic and trying to kill myself again. Before, I will say I rescued my daughter and she came back to live with me about 1 1/2 yrs ago I had been able to get my doseage down very low and do good. We will see what will come of this.

If I failed to answer anyone, please let me know.
KayBug