Chiron conjunct south node

Neptune Rising · #1 01-22-2008, 10:29 PM

Hello

I have noticed in my synastry with one of my bosses (purely business) his south node conjunct my chiron.

He drives me insane and is literally a pain! When he comes into the room I get a headache, I get panicky sometimes and it lasts all day. Its never like that when he is out of the office. It seems like he is deliberately trying to give me pain.

Also, I know a couple who have this in their synastry. His south node conjuncts her chiron. Ive put the two charts up if anyone fancies a look. After they got married she got really sick and has remained sick.

I would really love to know if anyone has experience with this Chiron/Node contacts? Does the node person bring out Chiron wounding in the Chiron person? Or bring out the pain.?

Thanks very much
NR

Me and the Boss synastry

Boss composite

Friend and wife synastry

Composite

Many thanks!
Neptune

gaer · #2 01-23-2008, 12:10 AM

It's so hard to read the chart because there are no degrees.

I have no idea what orbs are set. But there are so many squares and oppositions shown that I would guess that Chiron is by no means the most important aspect to consider.

Look for instance at Saturn to you Merc/Venus. After that, I don't even know where to start. It looks very awkward. I am not surprised you don't get along with him…

starlink · #3 01-23-2008, 08:33 AM

Hi Neptune, very interesting observation, but like Gear says, difficult to judge because of lack of degrees. I would first of all look at the 7th house of each individual and the aspects to it, the planets in it and the same for the ruler of the 7th to determine how they get along with others. If the 6th house ruler is somehow involved or the ruler of the 7th in the 6th badly aspected, something like that, it could show that working under someone could turn out to be difficult, affecting your nerves or health. In your case, look at Mercury, what does it tell you in relation to the boss? His Mars-Venus conjunction squares your Mercury-Venus conjunction and his Mars-Venus falls in your 6th house. this could be a main factor, but your observation is intriguing and I will keep an eye on it. Chiron mixed with South Node. South Node shows what you are comfortable with and Chiron maybe disturbs that comfort somehow. I still dont quite know how to judge Chiron. One book talks about healing others and not being able to heal yourself from the same problems, the other book only talks about Chiron being the key to understand your natal chart, a third one says it shows your path, the quest in your life. You have to start understanding the archtypal nature of Chiron first, then see if that tells you something (looking at which house he is in in your chart and the aspects he makes). Then you can maybe figure out what your bosses achillys is in his chart or the achillys in your chart, then start figuring out why that South Node (or Chiron) is making things worse.
Difficult one, but certainly worth looking at. Cheers, Starlink

Neptune Rising · #4 01-24-2008, 10:04 PM

Hi

Thanks Gaer
yes sorry about that, i didnt want to include his birth time on the chart and I find astro synastry charts dont show degrees. I also see that his Black Moon Lilith is conjunct my south node in my 7th house.

Interesting yopu mention his Saturn and my Mercury/Venus.. his SAturn is opposite my M/V. That could explain a lot! I felt him critizing me from the day of the interview. I never considered Saturn to have that effect before.

His Lilith is also square my Moon, though I know little about Lilith.

Thanks for your reply
NR

Neptune Rising · #5 01-24-2008, 10:14 PM

Hi Starlink!

I see what you mean, Venus/Mars square Venus/Merc. Plus all the other squares... it seems to get worse with time!

Aahh, my 7th house ruler is Mercury, so that not only has his Saturn opposing it, but his Mars/Venus from my 7th house. Uggh. I don't know his birth time to see about his rulers.

His North node and Pluto are in my 10th house - I guess he had to be my boss at some point.

I noticed the composite Mars is conjunct my natal Moon. Composite Saturn is conjunct his natal Sun.

Im quitting soon..

Thanks for your insight!
NR

gaer · #6 01-24-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Neptune Rising

Hi

Thanks Gaer
yes sorry about that, i didnt want to include his birth time on the chart and I find astro synastry charts dont show degrees. I also see that his Black Moon Lilith is conjunct my south node in my 7th house.

I think it's perfectly safe to include a birthday, at least, if you don't use a name.

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Interesting yopu mention his Saturn and my Mercury/Venus.. his SAturn is opposite my M/V. That could explain a lot! I felt him critizing me from the day of the interview. I never considered Saturn to have that effect before.

I like to look at the chart of a person, to get a "feel" for the individual. That's why birth data for this person might be helpful. He may, for instance, be a bully, and we may be able to see signs of that. If so, you will not be the only person who is being treated with lack of respect!

I have in mind a person who is not someone anyone would want to work for, and you can clearly see why in his chart. I may post it sometime, but without a name.

Gaer

Adding a few things: I believe I know the day this person was born. If I am right, here is some things that would bother me:

Jupiter appears to be opposite Neptune.
Both Mars and Venus are square to Saturn.
Mars is inconjunct Neptune.
If your birthtime for him is accurate, I suspect Moon is inconjunct Venus.
Although Neptune is trine to Saturn, in this chart it also accentuates Saturn.

If you want, I'll confirm the day I have with you, in a PM…

Neptune Rising · #7 01-24-2008, 10:30 PM

Hi Gaer

I would love your opinions on the chart

here is his chart, though I dont know his birth time

here is the synastry with Lilith, but no degrees

He also has Urans in mild oposition to Mars, i read a little bit about that. Im wodnering now, because his brother is a little scared of him, and i think his dad is wary too. They are all my bosses. The weirdest office job ive ever had! Ive gone off office work now!

thank you
NR

gaer · #8 01-24-2008, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Neptune Rising

Hi Gaer

I would love your opinions on the chart

here is his chart, though I dont know his birth timeHe also has Urans in mild oposition to Mars, i read a little bit about that. Im wodnering now, because his brother is a little scared of him, and i think his dad is wary too. They are all my bosses. The weirdest office job ive ever had! Ive gone off office work now!

thank you
NR

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Because you have no birth-time, I already had it figured out. All the aspects I mentioned are valid, except for the inconjunct from the Moon. That would only be true at noon or close to it.

The Mars Uranus opposition is weak, but Uranus opposes Chiron, for those who are interested in that aspect.

Without houses and an accurate time, it is harder, but based on what I'm seeing I would not like to work for this man. I'm glad to hear you will soon be moving to a more pleasant working environment!

Gaer

Neptune Rising · #9 01-24-2008, 11:27 PM

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Without houses and an accurate time, it is harder, but based on what I'm seeing I would not like to work for this man. I'm glad to hear you will soon be moving to a more pleasant working environment!

Gaer

Thanks Gaer!

I'll look into that Uranus/Chiron opposition. His Chiron is also opposite my Uranus.

oh yea, I'm going part time elsewhere soon, I'll be so so happy when that happens. While im stil there I'll just have to do some mantra chanting under my breath so deflect his vibes!

Ah well, it takes all sorts!

NR