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Old 08-02-2007, 02:05 PM
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Time of bridge collapse

Anyone have it? Apparently it was rush hour, but does anyone have a more precise time?

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Old 08-02-2007, 02:10 PM
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Re: Time of bridge collapse

According to this report, the bridge collapsed at around 6pm, local time.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0802/us.html

I'll post back if I can find anything more specific. However, I find that the time at which events are widely reported to have happened, is the significant time, regardless of accuracy to the minute.
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Old 08-02-2007, 03:27 PM
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Re: Time of bridge collapse

According to aol the time was 6:05 pm. in Minneapolis. Mars conjunct Algol and square Saturn in the hour of Saturn. However, I do not have time now to go into this, but I may be back later.
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Old 08-02-2007, 03:43 PM
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Re: Time of bridge collapse

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According to this report, the bridge collapsed at around 6pm, local time.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0802/us.html

I'll post back if I can find anything more specific. However, I find that the time at which events are widely reported to have happened, is the significant time, regardless of accuracy to the minute.
Oh yeah, that makes sense. At 6PM, just at a glance, I have the tightest Pluto/Asc conjunction - Asc 26Sag36 and Pluto Rx at 26Sag38 (get off the galatic center, please!). And ouch, look at that - Asc 26Sag, Pluto 26Sag, Saturn 26Leo (8H) and Mars 26Tau (5H). Those are some nasty planets sharing degrees with the Asc. So Saturn's trine, Mars is quincunx the Plutoan Asc. Pluto is shifting from Mars to Saturn's terms as well - not sure if that is relevant.

I don't like how things are going with the benefics Rx. Come on August 7th! We need one of them helping us!

I feel like the malefics and Pluto are the perpetrators here. But I'm probably overlooking something (I wish this newbie stuff would wear off already ).

I'll upload the chart if anyone wants to see what they think...
http://www.thousandfoldworks.com/MNbridgecollapse.BMP

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According to aol the time was 6:05 pm. in Minneapolis. Mars conjunct Algol and square Saturn in the hour of Saturn. However, I do not have time now to go into this, but I may be back later.
EDIT: yay I'm not far off!
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Old 08-02-2007, 06:10 PM
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oh tragic news didn't know about it
hope all our forum members and their friends and family are safe...
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Old 08-02-2007, 09:06 PM
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Re: Time of bridge collapse

6:05PM is the time in most the reports.

I would agree the Mars-Saturn-Pluto configuration is very, very telling. Yikes.

Some observations from the whacky 'ole Unu...

Moon/Uranus conjunct in the 3rd is certainly significant as well. Moon also sits on Pallas Athena, by less than an arcminute.

There is also a yod, with Pluto on the ascendant as the apex, to Mercury and Mars.

Chart for the City Of Minneapolis is July 20th 1958, time unknown, so Sun on the MC seems logical (12:19PM CST) which puts the solar ascendant of 22Lib32 not far from the 25Lib event MC.

Source: http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/coun...ennial_RCA.pdf

The Minneapolis chart further implicates the Mars-Saturn square. The Minneapolis Mars/Uranus midpoint, quite congruent with a sudden, shocking action is 26Leo28, putting Saturn conjunct and Mars square.

Pallas in the Minneapolis chart is quite interestingly positioned, especially considering the exact Moon-Pallas conjunct in the event chart. In the Minneapolis chart, Pallas sits at 26Sco22, squaring the Minneapolis Mars/Uranus midpoint. Of course, this also means the event Mars-Saturn-Pluto configuration was tightly aspecting the Minneapolis Pallas. I don't pay much attention to the asteroids normally, but this seems to warrant observation.

Mars&Saturn also activate the Sun/Neptune midpoint in the Minneapolis chart, not too surprising finding Neptune involved in an event dealing with a body of water. t.Mercury was in perfect trine to the Minneapolis Neptune (!) while t.Neptune squared the Minneapolis Mars at 1/2 degree of orb.

Other significant pictures between transiting planets and the Minneapolis chart:

Sun=Saturn/Chiron (note that this picture is present in the 9/11 event chart)
Pluto=Mars/Saturn (as if the event chart doesn't have enough MA-SA-PL already?)
Moon conjunct Pallas=Sun/Pluto
Pluto conjunct ASC=Sun/Pallas

My prayers go to all those who have suffered due to this tragedy. It is a miracle the fatality count isn't higher.

With Mars-Saturn involved so heavily, excessive stress or shock upon the bridge's structure certainly seems to be a most likely cause. This bridge had a history of concerns, and in 2000 a 90 page report was issued on structural fatigue on this bridge. In a 2003 report on bridge inspection projects, it is the only bridge listed for an "indepth *special*" inspection. Overall, it seems this bridge had some serious concerns, and I'd put money on it whoever approved the design of this bridge is feeling a bit guilty right now.

Most the media isn't reporting it, saying that the bridge was only undergoing surface refinishing, but the contract awarded for the project says otherwise, showing hundreds of thousands of dollars in "expansion joint reconstruction" and "install expansion joint" items. Of course we can't say if any of this had actually been done, and which joints were to be reconstructed, replaced or installed, but obviously expansion joints are a critical structural item in any bridge.
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:55 AM
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Re: Time of bridge collapse

Good insights with the midpoints and Minneanapolis, U. I've been watching Lilith move in and out of sextile with retro Venus, as today the two were conjunct by less than a degree. It's heartbreaking, really.
Mars with Algol was sitting with my Sun today, square Saturn and this whole astrological configuration at present with Saturn trine Pluto and Mars square Saturn, Quincunx Pluto and Venus Retrograde and about to cross Regulus and conjunct Saturn in Leo again makes for hardship, pure and simple. I guess it's time and it's touching charts in different ways and showing us how we are not in control.
I think these are the things that Poets write about. Our lives are touched as we see the connections. May there be a rainbow on the other side.. Thanks for the thread.
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Old 08-03-2007, 06:30 AM
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Significator of the bridge I make it to be Mars. Mars conjunct ALGOL. That should do it on top of everything else being said.
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