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Old 02-03-2013, 04:01 AM
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Violent aspects in a mans natal chart?

what aspects can indicate violence?

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Old 02-03-2013, 04:05 AM
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Re: Violent aspects in a mans natal chart?

Aries sun and rising. Challenged aspects between Mars, Moon and Sun.
No different to a woman in that way. But men are notoriously much more violent than women because of their testosterone so the more masculine they are, the more likely to be capable of violence. If it manifests when they are drinking then Neptune in the mix.
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:08 AM
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Re: Violent aspects in a mans natal chart?

An excellent look at this subject is to be found in Modernist pioneer Charles Carter's "Some Principles of Horoscopic Delineation" (easily available from such internet vedors as astroamerica.com)
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:30 AM
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Aries sun and rising. Challenged aspects between Mars, Moon and Sun.
No different to a woman in that way. But men are notoriously much more violent than women because of their testosterone so the more masculine they are, the more likely to be capable of violence. If it manifests when they are drinking then Neptune in the mix.
Here are the natal aspects in my boyfriends natal chart. Do you see any of that in there?



Planet Aspect Planet Orb/Value


Sun Square Mars 4.09 -49

Sun Trine Jupiter 5.42 43

Sun Conjunction Saturn 5.32 75

Sun Trine Uranus 1.22 108

Moon Opposition Mars 5.20 -122

Moon Square Saturn 3.56 -45

Moon Conjunction Pluto 4.31 220

Moon Trine Midheaven 7.40 4

Mercury Conjunction Venus 4.17 343

Mercury Sextile Ascendant 0.45 130

Venus Square Pluto 1.49 -56

Mars Square Saturn 1.24 -77

Jupiter Trine Uranus 7.04 9

Jupiter Trine Midheaven 7.10 5

Saturn Trine Uranus 4.11 33

Neptune Square Ascendant 2.48 -11

Neptune Opposition Midheaven 0.54 -36

Pluto Trine Midheaven 3.09 6
976 -396 580
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:41 AM
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Re: Violent aspects in a mans natal chart?

With a strong disclaimer that other factors MUST be taken into account (such as house, sign, dodekatemorion ramification,elevated/pitted degree placements, etc etc) the following I would consider as MAYBE being indicative of strong, aggressive responses (based ONLY on the planets and aspects given)

-Sun/Mars square
-Moon/Mars opposition
-Moon/Pluto conjunction
(possibly also the Venus/Pluto square)
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With a strong disclaimer that other factors MUST be taken into account (such as house, sign, dodekatemorion ramification,elevated/pitted degree placements, etc etc) the following I would consider as MAYBE being indicative of strong, aggressive responses (based ONLY on the planets and aspects given)

-Sun/Mars square
-Moon/Mars opposition
-Moon/Pluto conjunction
(possibly also the Venus/Pluto square)

His mars is in his 7th house

His moon is in his 1st house

His pluto is in his 1st house

His venus is in his 10th house
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Old 02-03-2013, 05:15 AM
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His mars is in his 7th house

His moon is in his 1st house

His pluto is in his 1st house

His venus is in his 10th house


those houses are the "action" houses.
which means he would take action against someone.

his aspects indicate emotional/relational sadism.

but your composite/synastry is not provocative of violence.
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:26 PM
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Re: Violent aspects in a mans natal chart?

I knew 2 violent men, both died many years ago.

1. Moon/Mars conjunction in Capricorn opposite Pluto in Cancer T-square Sun/Mercury conjunction in Aries.
He was occasionally violent since teenager age and stayed it till about 40, later he changed and stopped it.

2. Moon/Mars conjunction in Aquarius square Uranus in Leo.
He was violent at home since he married at age 29 till his death. He had 3 long-term spouses and was violent to all of them.
He had also Pluto in Leo in 7th opposite ASC in Aquarius, but his Pluto was well aspected and part of Grand Trine with Sun and Uranus.

There was a big difference between the 2 men. The 1st got angry and "exploded". The 2nd used violence as punishment and stayed calm.
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Re: Violent aspects in a mans natal chart?

You need to post the whole chart but sun square mars can be a prime indicator of violence and learned from the father. Uranus challenged can cause erratic and shocking behaviour that seems to come out of the blue. If linked with Mercury it shows mental instability. However it is mainly the oppositions that play out in the world.
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Re: Violent aspects in a mans natal chart?

Parallels of declination can show important connections, and also can act as moderating factors relative to longitudinal aspects as well.
I consider conjunctions (in longitude), Parallels (in declination) and oppositions (in longitude) to be the (usually) most significant factors involving planetary interactions.
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Re: Violent aspects in a mans natal chart?

Hard aspects between:

Sun & Pluto
Moon & Mars
Moon & Saturn
Mars & Saturn
Mars & Pluto

On their own, it might not mean much. But a few could suggest a violent temper.

Sun squ/opp Pluto
From what I've read, it suggests having your ego/self-esteem completely demolished at a young age. Implying a history of oppression and being a victim at the hands of someone powerful(Pluto). It leaves a person believing they have only two choices in life...destroy or be destroyed. So either live life imitating their oppressor or continue to meet Pluto through others. For a man, it probably brings out real anger issues and a bitterness over being so wronged. What's bizarre is that they want to embody the very person/people who have hurt them. Very sad...now they no longer need someone to ruin their life, they do that themselves. Assuming they're taken the dark route.

Moon squ/opp Mars
You find this a lot with men who have a history of violence towards women. Obviously there are exceptions! It might mean he attracts angry women.

Mars squ/opp Saturn
Similar to Sun&Pluto hard aspect, might imply suffering at the hands of someone powerful...or it might not. A few of my siblings have this and they were "spoiled".

My partner has all of these (except a trine between Mars&Pluto)and his youth was very anti-social. He's now in his early 30s and sane, but some issues still pop up...like his tyrannical and obsessive need for control at all times or always needing to have the upper hand.
I genuinely believe he subconsciously thinks he's going to die if he loses control, it's been programmed into the survival part of his brain.
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