Would the medium I have in mind help me find out the truth about my father?

freedomlover · #1 06-30-2007, 04:06 AM

In a nutshell..... I never knew who my biological father was. On top of that, my mother fed me a pack of lies that have caused me untold psychological grief. I want to know the truth about my father - and know who he was. My mother is deceased, and if any of her friends know- they're not telling.

I was thinking that it was hopeless, when I had an Eureka! moment. From all accounts he is also deceased - so maybe I should go straight to the source. And my mother would also be likely to come clean now that she has passed over. Surely one or the other of them would come through in a session with a medium? One particular person with mediumship abilities came to mind.

My question is: Would the medium I have in mind be willing and able to help me find out the truth?

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Okay- my stab at interpretation.

The Asc is in Aquarius, so I would be signified by Saturn, which is in Leo in the 7th house. The medium I have in mind would be the 7th house, which is in Leo. So the mediums sig would be the Sun, which is in Cancer, in the 5th house. My co-sig is Moon in Capricorn in the 11th house. The Moon opposes the Sun (medium's sig).

Not sure where to go with it from there.

I really, really appreciate any and all help with this question!

freedomlover · #2 06-30-2007, 04:28 AM

I decided to take a guess at further horary technique, just to see if I get any of it right.

I've been told that the 10th house is the mother, so I assume the 4th is the father? The 4th is in Taurus, whose ruler, Venus is in Leo in the 7th, and is approaching an exact conjunction of my sig, Saturn.

If the medium is the 7th, and mediumship abilities is found in the 12th, then the medium's turned 12th has Cancer on the cusp - so their mediumship ability is represented by the Moon in Cap/11th, which is also my co-sig. But again, the Moon opposes the medium's sig of Sun in Cancer, 5th.

Okay, that is as far as I get with it.

Kaiousei no Senshi · #3 06-30-2007, 04:54 AM

I had two thoughts about this chart before I looked at it. My first is that the main idea of his chart is having to do with the abilities of the medium and that the medium's significator would show this ability. So, this is Sol in Cancer, Sol is peregrine here and kind of iffy being conjunct a cadent sixth cusp.

My second thought is perhaps another house could also show this. I had thought the medium's Second house would show this, but then you mentioned the twelfth, so I'll try both. The turned Second house is in Virgo and its ruler Mercury is in a whole heap of trouble. Peregrine, retrograde, combust. To this I can only say 'check please'. Doesn't look very good. Okay, using the turned Twelfth that you suggested. This is Luna who is not in good condition thanks to be in Detriment, however has some Triplicity power to her. Okay, not so bad, however something I think is odd is that Luna (the mediumship as you suggest) opposes Sol (the medium), showing that these two perhaps do not exist harmoniously or are adverse to each other.

I was also thinking along the lines you were along with the Fourth/Tenth ideas, however mine was different in that I thought about taking the turned Eighth from these. For some reason it came into my mind that using this house would somehow click to give the mediumship, chatting with the spirits from the house this house is derived from.

So, I'm going to try just using Fourth/Tenth though, since this is probably a bit more astrologically sound. The only thing I see that's interesting is what you have already pointed out. Your father's significator is in the house of the Medium, coming into conjunction with your significator. I can't find a really convincing argument for your mother though, her Significator does Sextile the Medium's, but the Medium is moving away from your mother.

This is an odd question, Freedom!

archergirl · #4 06-30-2007, 06:39 AM

Hi there,

I have a few things to add to the discussion about this chart:

1. The querent (Saturn) is in the 7th house (medium), beholden to him/her. I don't normally use outer planets, but Saturn/Venus (father) are in opposition to Neptune, planet of fantasy and (dis)illusion.

2. The Moon (querent) opposes the significator of the medium (Sun): not a good sign, especially since the Moon is in detriment. There is no translation or collection of light from you to the medium via this moon. The medium is found in the 5th house: I wonder whether this doesn't bring up the phrase, "For entertainment purposes only". The 5th is a strange place to find this significator...

I would not use the 12th for 'mediumship abilities', or even add this to the mixture: the medium will not be separate from his/her abilities. This is horary, not a natal chart! What you need to look for is an aspect between the Sun and Saturn, full stop, since this relationship is about whether the medium can help you.

3. The 4th/10th axes, the cusps of the querent's father/mother, are at very late degrees, in fixed signs. The cusp of the querent's father is conjunct the Weeping Pleiades: a fate to weep about. The cusp degrees/fixity says: 'it's too late'.

4. Part of Fortune sits in the 7th house, the house of the medium. Whose fortune is it? The medium's. The medium and his/her money (Sun and Mercury) exalt Jupiter, the querent's money. Mercury is combust: when planets are combust, they are 'hidden'. Very dodgy, IMO.

My suggestion would be: don't waste your money. If there's any information to be had, you can find it by other means: genealogical sites, public records, birth records, etc. If you are willing to dig, you may find what you're seeking.

I don't discount mediums and certainly not psychic powers, but IMO if someone charges you for a service (which I assume this medium will do), they are going to make sure you are a satisfied customer, whether they have to be judicious with the truth or not. Will you be satisfied with that?

Good luck!
Best wishes,
AG

Libra20 · #5 06-30-2007, 07:53 AM

Freedomlover,

I actually know a clairvoyant/tarot card reader that I've found to be extremely accurate in the readings I've had. She also doesn't sugar coat things, which I think is a good thing. I can PM you her info if you want. I've been to her in person, but she also does phone readings.
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How To Roll A Joint

freedomlover · #6 06-30-2007, 10:07 PM

Thanks to all for your responses!!!

To: Kaiousei No Senshi

I had the same idea - that the 8th house would be the one for a medium. For some reason I've always associated 8th house with mediumship. However, I had someone tell me that 12th house was psychic abilities. They knew more about horary than I did, so I went with it. I'm still not completely sold on the 12th house for mediumship, though. Anyway, I can see why you would have the idea for the turned 8th. Thanks for your input!

To: Archergirl

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The 4th/10th axes, the cusps of the querent's father/mother, are at very late degrees, in fixed signs. The cusp of the querent's father is conjunct the Weeping Pleiades: a fate to weep about. The cusp degrees/fixity says: 'it's too late'.

To me, this is confirming that my father and mother are both deceased. I never had a good relationship with my mother - she was very emotionally distant. And, like I said, I never even knew who my father was - and have always regretted it.

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4. Part of Fortune sits in the 7th house, the house of the medium. Whose fortune is it? The medium's. The medium and his/her money (Sun and Mercury) exalt Jupiter, the querent's money. Mercury is combust: when planets are combust, they are 'hidden'. Very dodgy, IMO.

My suggestion would be: don't waste your money. If there's any information to be had, you can find it by other means: genealogical sites, public records, birth records, etc. If you are willing to dig, you may find what you're seeking.

I don't discount mediums and certainly not psychic powers, but IMO if someone charges you for a service (which I assume this medium will do), they are going to make sure you are a satisfied customer, whether they have to be judicious with the truth or not. Will you be satisfied with that?

I guess I should have given more detail about the "medium" I have in mind.
The person is a friend of a friend of a friend. I very casually know this person, and know some things about this person. If I'm not mistaken, this person has stated that they have mediumship abilities. I had thought about asking this person if they would help me out of the goodness of their heart. I currently have less than a dollar in my possession, so I'm in no position at all to pay someone. In fact, I, too, am rather leery of the ones who charge for these services, although I realize that there are some who are very honest and aboveboard. Maybe this is why their sig was in the 5th? Doesn't the 5th, Leo, rule generosity- "giving out of the goodness of their heart" type of stuff? I have no clue as to why the POF would be in their house, unless maybe they would get blessed by it, as well?

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If there's any information to be had, you can find it by other means: genealogical sites, public records, birth records, etc. If you are willing to dig, you may find what you're seeking.

Sigh.... I have spent much time over the last several years doing just this. I have the copy of my birth certificate, and the man's name on there is not my father. However, no one will tell me any different. I have tracked down and interviewed all my mom's best friends, and her sister - all of them claim not to know anything. I have had several dreams that her very best friend is lying, but I don't know of any way to get her to tell the truth. (See my "My father is a mystery thread"). So, I thought of the idea of possibly getting the truth "straight from the horse's mouth", so to speak - by contacting him through the spirit realm. There just is no paper-trail or "witnesses" in the physical realm that I can find.

Thanks for your detailed response, and I'll keep what you said in mind about there being no translation or collection of light between me and the medium. That may very well mean that this is not the right person.

To: Pixiequix

Thank you for your thoughts and encouraging words.

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** Intuitive flash. I get the feeling that he may no longer be living... I really hope I'm wrong.

No, I believe your intuitive flash was correct. I have had several people have the same intuition on the subject. I do believe he is passed on to the other side. That is why I thought of the medium. No one in embodiment seems to know - and he didn't let me know anything while in embodiment. But I've heard that once people pass over, they shed their ego-attachments and fears, and are very eager to put right the things that went wrong while they are alive - balancing their karma from the other side, really. I thought it might be worth a try.

To: Libra20

I really appreciate your kind offer to hook me up with someone who may be able to help. One hitch though, they would have to be willing to make a gift of it, as I have absolutely no money to pay for their services.