Teacher/Professor

[lucir]

I've been told I'd make an awful teacher, but I find that that's what I would like to do.

Are there any aspects that point one way or another?

(art teacher by the way, and definetly either high school or college professor)
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[lillyjgc]

Lucir, can you please provide your natal chart or the data so your question can be looked at? cheers, lillyjgc

[Lynns]

9th house planets usually indicate an interest in academia/ teaching. As do sagittarius planets.

A Sagittarian midheaven, or ruler of midheaven in the 9th house would be predisposed to teaching/ research professions.

Bad tempered aspects are moon squares or opposition aspects.
So perhaps moon sq Saturn, mars, uranus will not necessarily make a bad teacher, but a bad-tempered and impatient one.

[lucir]

Wow, I can't believe I forgot to post the chart. I apologize.


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[Lynns]

I'll take a shot

the 8th house is a relational house - you need to relate to people directly and teaching is a good way for that.
Your MC is in the 8th house - you tend to like research.

Having the sun conjunct mars in the 5th house shows your creativity (perhaps that's why you stated art as an interest).

Pluto in the 6th shows alot of dedication to your work.

Your 9th cusp is in the 8th; it brings a love for research learning.

As for the squares to mars - there is some temper there that needs to be resolved and controlled;

[lucir]

Thank you! I always wondered what Pluto in the 6th meant. I read somewhere it means 'secretive work' but I wasn't too sure about that.

Oh and about the research thing, that's very true.
and also the temper

Actually everything was pretty accurate.

Well judging from what you said I think I'd be better suited as some kind of art professor.
No annoying kids to deal with my temper.

And it's more of a challenge. =) I like that.
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[Lynns]

I think art professor would be great. Perhaps something related to aesthetics too, as your sun is in libra in the 5th house - this shows a great appreciation and enjoyment of beauty and luxury.

You have quite a difficult chart! Perhaps your energies could be channelled into creating wonderful works of art.

You probably feel hampered alot by external forces, and your energies, i.e., desires cannot have a proper outlet for expression, or that they are not accepted by others. You could create wonderful works of art if you channel these energies there.

I would also state acting/ drama, but your chart seems to point towards research. Perhaps film, or screenwriting, where alot of research work is needed.

Also, you have sun and moon especially harmonious. A sagittarian moon loves the literary arts.

Pluto is particularly strong in the 6th. Perhaps you like secretive work, but also power in your area of work.

Mercury is also especially strong, and is ruler of your 5th and 2nd - you use your mind to make money, in the artistic field.

hope this helps!

[lucir]

yes that helps alot
Thank you!

And yes I'm an artist, so I do channel those energies =)
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[wilsontc]

Lynns,

You said:

Your MC is in the 8th house

In the Placidus chart lucir provided, the MC (Midheaven) is not and can not be in the 8th house. In Placidus the Midheaven is the dividing line between the 9th house and the 10th house and isn't in any house of its own.

Your 9th cusp is in the 8th

Based on any Placidus-based chart, the cusp (edge) of the 9th house can not be in the 8th house. The 9th house cusp is on the edge of the 9th house, by definition.

the 8th house is a relational house

The 8th house is not a relational house, it is a transformational house: it is about what a person does AFTER they have a relationship: it is associated with control, power, sex, and research (to name a few). The 7th house is the relational house.

Correcting,

Tim

[wilsontc]

lucir,

Adding to what Lynns said, since your North node (future goals) is focused in the 9th house (expansion, also knowledge, teaching), you have a goal of learning and teaching.

About teaching,

Tim

[lucir]

thanks, so mistakes or not, my chart still points towards teaching =)
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[lillyjgc]

Wilsontc, I think Lynns meant that the ruler of the Mc is in H8- that is what I understood by the "mc is in the 8th"...it's fairly evident- and in no way affects the analysis...Lucir I don't think teaching is for you- with a T-square involving the house of children (H5) I can't see that being harmonious (for you or the kids). finding a physical outlet for these strong energies would be important- or making something creatively which involves the expenditure of physical energy- but I will look some more into your chart...lillyjgc

[lucir]

What if I wasn't teaching 'children'? Or by children do you just mean students in general, regardless of age?
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[lillyjgc]

Hi there-me again, I look at your chart as follows: The sun (where you shine), is in the fifth house- this house rules children, creativity, aesthetics, and romance- ( I call it the house of fun) -It's sitting in Libra (teaching, legal work, social justice. It is conjunct Mars (which is in its detriment).Mars is how you go about it- the action of shining in this case....This sun/mars (which would normally generate a lot of energy )is a bit repressed in Libra and is also impeded by a square to jupiter in H2 (money, self-esteem,possessions etc and forms a T-square with saturn and neptune in your 8th house..(other people's resources). I don't pretend to understand the workings of Saturn/neptune conjunction- it is two opposing energies and in the house that rules sex as well as death (weird fantasies?).This combination is not a grounded energy at all.The cusp of the third house will show your mental capacities, and study...The moon rules that house in your chart, cancer, suggesting things home-based.This theme reiterates itself with mercury, the natural ruler of H3 in your H4.. Mercury appears to be your *strongest* planet- It is trine the MC (your career/reputation/public image and a few other things.) It is in Virgo- Mercury's own sign- happy there in the home, doing detailed intellectual work that is of service to others.With the moon running the show in your mental house (H3) a lot will depend on *how you feel*..your attitude to work mental pursuits may not be constant...the saturn/nept. cj exacerbates this.. The moon is also on the cusp of H8 in Sag and therefore Jupiter (the law, foreign travel, sex, death, occult matters , rules this house. Jupiter is exalted in cancer but nonetheless part of the T-square that connects financial matters to tax or other H8 matters(in a bad way) and this all explodes in the fifth house ...so I would say there is danger to you when it comes to fifth house matters and with Jupiter so involved that could involve lawsuits where you lose and don't even see it coming (Neptune).The moon is sextile your MC which tells me you feel inclined to look to your image in the world- you want to make your mark and as it is sag to aquarius this suggests social reform, groups,humanitarian endeavours...technology will play an especially important role with aquarius on the mc.Lucir there is a very heavy emphasis on your eighth house so you will need to be especially careful in regard to money and your handling of others' resources...A lot of energy gets released from a T-square..you would also need to be careful not to get mixed up with religious sects who could bleed you dry...Mercury is your strongest planet- writing and studying...Your house of higher learning (H9) is ruled by Saturn...which is part of that difficult T-square...lillyjgc

[Lynns]

Wilsontc,

Yes, as Lilly mentioned, I meant the ruler of the MC, and the 9th house cusps respectively. I don't use terminology strictly and should have for the purposes of clarity.

As for relational houses, I actually meant relational quadrants. I take the 7th to 9th as houses that need to interact and relate to others, albeit in different ways. I agree that the 8th house is tranformational, but it is also relational in that the bearer would not like a superficial way of relating to others, perhaps endeavouring to transcend himself in some way through relations with others.

Lucir,

As Lilly mentioned, perhaps extra care is needed for the T-Square. It is a powerful aspect, though I am not quite familiar with it.
Also, it is true that you don't particularly like children, as signified by squares to planets in the 5th. However, you possess alot of child-like qualities yourself, and it could be an unconscious rejection of the part of yourself that you feel should abandon the inner child within.

(I have a friend with sun in the 5th, and I observe that she hates children, especially when they make alot of noise and become demanding. However, she takes to them when they behave in a relatively "adult" manner, i.e.: quiet, polite, and respectful).

[lucir]

Originally Posted by lucir

What if I wasn't teaching 'children'? Or by children do you just mean students in general, regardless of age?

No one saw this, I see?
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[lillyjgc]

Lucir, your chart is not really conducive to teaching from my point of view- patience is lacking...wrong temperament..I would look at the creative side more if I were you- when you are a master of something then you can think about being a teacher, hey? lillyjgc

[lucir]

Originally Posted by lillyjgc

... when you are a master of something then you can think about being a teacher, hey? lillyjgc

Huh?
That confused me MORE than a little.
o.O'
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[Shining Ray]

• Taurus Ascendant
• Venus in Scorpio
• Venus in 7th house
• Venus Square M.C
• Mercury in Virgo
• Mercury trine Ascendant
• Ruler of 2nd/5th in 4th possible 5th house

The individual has a great need to make the most out of his or her personal abilities and resources. Life is based upon what one values, and Taurus Rising do their upmost to anchor these values in material form.

Venus in Scorpio - When Venus is in Scorpio, the urge is to attract other peoples resources. This thwarts the essential and natural orientation of Taurus and brings the individual with Taurus rising into many interpersonal conflicts. Such conflicts are based on the Taurus-rising/Venus in Scorpio, and the need to transform the other persons values into a reflection of one's own. This Taurus/Scorpio conflict will be a very important theme throughout the individuals life.

Venus in the 7th house - A very strong need to join with another or to polarize yourself against another in order to establish a stronger sense of self. The affairs of the 1st house the essential "I-amness" of life are shifted into the realm of "otherness" You may be learning to polarize yourself through relationships.

Venus Square M.C - Your sense of beauty and pleasure has to somehow find a place into your home and working life. Otherwise you will find these areas of life too dull to further any worthwhile degree. If you don't feel equipped to do this seek advice.

Mercury in Virgo - Your mind is rather like a precision instrument, which can perform more or less any mental task that is set before you.

Mercury in 4th house - These mental qualities of yours are strongly linked to your home life. So your mind can be buried in your roots. You like to surround yourself with books and bits and pieces of information they give you a sense of security. Mercury is on the 5th house cusp (depending on how accurate your birth time is) Mercury can give a talent for teaching when in 5th house. Your way of communicating can have a memorable affect on the listener especially children. Your mind can be a major creative tool.

Mercury ruler of 2nd in 4th - There is a need to use one's resources in order to anchor personal security in the world. The use of communication skills can bring income into the home. Mercury ruler of 2nd in 5th - Enjoys using resources for pleasure.

Mercury ruler of 5th in 4th - Creative inspiration come form early life experiences. A highly subjective attitude when dealing with your creative self expression. Creativity, romance, children and other dynamics are heightened for the good or otherwise.

Mercury square Uranus - Your intersts extend to the scientific or metaphysical. There is an unusual cast to your mind that is attracted to the more offbeat and radical avenues of thought.

Mercury Trine Ascendant - You have little trouble in perceiving clearly what is happening around you, and in conveying your interpretation of it to anyone that you come into contact with. In fact you are an excellent and stimulating communicator.

• Sun in Libra
• Sun in 5th house
• Sun Conjunct Mars
• Sun Square Jupiter
• Sun square Saturn
• Sun Square Neptune
• Ruler of 4th house in the 5th

Sun in Libra - Your essential purpose in life is to bring balance, harmony and justice to whatever it is you find important in life. You are rightly aware that there is right and a wrong, a rough and a smooth, a pleasant and an unpleasant side to every situation. There can be an indecisiveness because of your ability to see all sides. This just means You have to ascertain what you think is important to society in your eyes, and what you can do that can contribute to society in that respect. You will most like vacilliate between what you feel others expect of you and what you really want to do.

Sun in 5th - Your life centres on your creative expression. This could involve pastimes involving romance, children, art. drama etc. You find brightness simply through shining.

Sun Conjunct Mars - You have a strong resiliant nature. You are built for action, and have no trouble getting on with the job at hand. Your primary requirement is finding a cause to promote. You like to get riled up, the angrier you get the more impassioned you become. Anger burns hot and fierce in the moment but afterwoods it's gone. You like to be in situations which prove your mettle.

Sun Sqaure Jupiter - You have big aspirations, and the desire to succeed in life in a grand way. You like to increase your knowledge and wisdom, be careful not to get too self inflated but with your Sun/Saturn aspect this will bring you back down to earth.

Sun Square Saturn - Feelings of inadequacy and self doubt often plague you. You can be highly responsible and disciplined. Life can feel life like a series of challenges each one steeper than the next. Saturn will push you do to more to achieve mastery in your life.

Sun Square Neptune - Be careful of escapists tendencies through indulgences of your weaknessess.

Ruler of 4th in 5th - You need to take your subjective life and give it form and focus to express one's creativity. Your creativity is like a persoanl stamp. With Saturn aspecting the Sun/Libra/5th it may take until later in life and after you have gained more maturity and experience before your creativity truly begins to flourish and shine.

• Venus opposed Ascendant
• Ruler of 6th Venus in 7th

You love deeply and intensly, and can often find yourself consumed with desire. Your whole Venus profile is greatly emphasised in your personality. You are highly pleasing to other people, you can look for own worth and beauty in some else.

Ruler of 6th in 7th you can easily become married to your work, Libra rules beauty and art so there is a challenge of bringing harmony into relationships, home and work life.

• Mars in Libra
• Mars in 5th
• Mars square Jupiter
• Mars square Saturn
• Mars square Uranus
• Ruler of 12th in the 5th

You aim to get what you want and please others at the samre time. You can be uncomfortably over sensitive to the opoinions of others. You have a strong belief that your way of doing things is right, you can be a crusader for whatever you believe in. There are lessons concerning your self assertion. Being female you can attract men who have trouble with their masculinity which can be expressed as too hard and brutish or quite weak. It depends if you are expressing this aggressive energy or it is possible the men in your life are physically aggressive. You can react hotly when someone opposes you, or violently or recklessly. Your an intense lady.

There is a universal element connected to your self expression. This can result in an artist being able to paint using common symbolism that is understood by people regardless of religion, race, or nationality. You can be overly stimulated in the search for romance ansd sensual pleasures and this can become a source of self undoing. Addictions or other drugs may impede one's creativity.

• Jupiter in Cancer
• Jupiter in 2nd
• Jupiter oppose Saturn
• Jupiter opposed Neptune
• Jupiter trine Pluto
• Ruler of 8th in 2nd

Your feeling nature is broad and deep. But establishing faith in life will not come without some severe tests. Your having to find a balance betwwen faith and reality, and discover a vision of a better situation and the practical means of getting there. You can think better of others than they deserve, avoid being too gullible, you have the ideal that everything is beautiful deep down. You can attract big wealth but there can be some limiatations regarding money. A partners resources are linked to your own financial condition. Your material wealth can be increased as a result of a marriage or businees partnership.

• South Node Leo/3rd house North Node Aquarius 10th

With your South Node in Leo in the 3rd house, your gifts of warmth, love, generosity, and creativity will tend to manifest in your ability to communicate in your immediate enviroment. The 3rd house represents the world that is most familiar to us, and the ways in which we make sense of the world is through logic, reason, and language. The 3rd house also relates to our individual spiritual practices and beliefs. With South node in Leo you may perceive the world primarily as it relates to you. You genuinely care about people and objects in your persoanl space, your warmth and love is evident to them. The trap of the South in Leo in 3rd is that you may become too attached to your familiar comfortable enviroment. Being the "Big Fish" in a small pond can be an addictive experience, and the idea of exploring a situation where you may not be the star, the hero and the center of attention may be very unnappealing to you.

The Key to balancing this energy is to work with your North Node Aquarius in the 9th house, this is where we expand our understanding of the world and how we relate to it as an individual, and it includes philosophy, higher education, religion and long journeys. Working with your North Node in Aquarius 9th will allow you to break free of the familiar but limiting world of the 3rd house and allow you to learn the greater and more important role you can play as a member of the group. Part of the challenge is learning to become an equal member of the group, that sharing in a larger philosophy and participating in a larger goal, does not mean that you have to give up your unique identity. You will give up the belief that the world revolves around you, but you will also give up the need to feel the centre of the universe. The North Node in Aquarius 9th can teach you how to give of yourself freely and fully, without needing the approval or validation of others, and learning to find support for your individual identity through sharing in the collective dream.

Astrologers I used during this interpretation were: Lyn Birkbeck. Kevin Burk, and Alan Oken - so blame them if it's all wrong . But seriously if ART is what you want to do go after your goal.

[Shining Ray]

I just read back to your first post and I can't see why being an art teacher would be a problem you would be making full expression of your 5th house Libra planets square to Neptune. Venus is in an exact sextile to Mercury communicating about art. South Node Leo in 3rd high creative self expression/commincation taking your talents to the group/through teaching higher learning Aquarius 9th. If art is what you are passionate about, go for it. Usually you have to go through training and be put into classroom situations and you will soon find out if your temperment is suited or not. Would you say you would lose your cool in the teaching profession or do you just find you are driven passionatly to do this type of work. There are frustrations from Saturn to the 5th house Libra planets Mars/Sun but this just means you will have to work really hard and not give up on your goal. Sometimes you will find there are setbacks but if you keep working you will eventually reach your goal. And also I think being female some of the energies of the Sun/Mars/Saturn may express itself less forcefully or maybe you do have a strong temper like you said.

[lucir]

thanks for clearing everything up!
Very detailed interpretation

I appreciate it.
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[Soul Friend]

Hi Lucir,

Ultimately you may make your decision for your expression of art based on feeling not what your head tells you about the stars just because that's the nature of an artist. That being said I'll try to connect with things not yet discussed but a few things were begun to be brought out.

Venus as your Asc. ruler and the ruler of your 5th H of Creativity is put into the 7th H of partnerships. This relates to business partnerships as well as marriage/life partners so contemplate these things. Investigate on your own the areas everyone is sharing with you. We will point to areas of importance but you alone know your own life and mind. Meditate upon various interpretations and get to the place where your chart allows you to discover your weaknesses and strengths. Often a benefic like Venus and also the Moon in the 7th give you favor with the public and females in particular. Keep that in mind.

Your Jupiter-Neptune opposition form the rim Planets of a bowl pattern which lead you again toward a very relational perspective in life which is reinforced by the Libra Sun and Venus accidentally dignified by House position in the House of natural rulership. (I'm being wordy here to help share w/ readers less familiar w/ basics and just learning.) Jupiter is the "Cutting Planet" of the bowl pattern. It happens to be Exalted in Cancer and is in mutual reception with the Moon in Sagittarius again reflecting back to the 7thH giving favor w/ the public.

Bearing in mind that this opposition is T-squared by a 5th H conjunction involving the debilitated Mars in Libra, that's not necessarily all bad. T-squares have been known historically to add an impetus toward success because of inner obstacles one needs to overcome. As for Mars in Libra, it can be used to find inspiration without impulsivity. A mature soul can tap into this balanced inspiration and use it for Creativity of one's own. I believe as you find the energy manifest from the opposition it can be focused into 5th H activity of Creativity which would be safer than allowing it to manifest without planning. Neptune can be very artistically inspiring but left to its own without conscientious diligence and being on guard it can also manifest as deception either originating from others or yourself.

If you choose to consider Art and teaching I would see that because dealing with others may come easily at some level but not necessarily youngsters, a different venue is needed like college or private teaching where each student is paying to learn because it creates a different dynamic. Too, I would suggest you consider delving into the creative process and seeking the fullest understanding of it you can so your teaching can focus on drawing out the creativity in those you teach. Teaching about the creative process and tapping into inspiration can also include those metaphysical research energies of the 8th H so prominent in the mix.


In Hope & Light,

~Soul Friend
~~~Rick

[Emmy]

Just curious--is the 3rd house also involved in teaching/research professions (as well as the 9th)?

How would you interpret having the ruler of the midheaven (e.g.Cancer 25 degrees--so the moon ruling) in the 3rd house (Moon 17 degrees Sagittarius)--also with Gemini on the 9th house cusp(w/ mercury in aquarius in the 4th house)? Any ideas? Thanks?--Emmy

[Lissa]

Hi Emmy,

I personally don't see the3rd house as directed relating to teaching because Jupiter is the teaher,not Mercury.However,the3rd house has to do with communicating,and communication is a very important part of teaching.I do see the astrological configuration you mentioned as having some potential for research work,with Mercury in Aquarius in the4th showing someone who would probably some solitude or a quiet place to think and come up with new,original ideas and the Sagitarius Moon in the3rd showing someone is very curious.

Regards,
Lissa

[Emmy]

Hi Lissa,
I'm wondering what you think about adding Jupiter (in Scorpio) in the 1st house to the things I had already metioned---would that indicate teaching as a profession in any way (maybe even out of your own house?)?
Thanks!--Emmy