A Nitty Gritty Sex Horary

[Moondance]

Yeah,yeah, I know. I'm obsessed with the Wild Thing, but it's all over my solar return this year, so my question is "When will we have sex?" He is the moon and I am Saturn. I am debilitated in Leo and should be read as in the 8th house through the 5 degree rule. He is the moon in Capricorn in the 12th. There are no aspects between us or the ruler of the 5th house. No sex? On the other hand, he is approaching the ascendant, which in real life is exactly conjunct his natal Venus, to the second. Also, the descendant is at exact conjunction to within 8 minutes of my natal Venus, and his part of divorce ( he's separated from wife). Does this mean we will long for eachother ( due to recption by sign, ugh,Saturn), but always remain "opposed"? Or does this just make the chart radical? This is a wierd one- anyone care to try an interpretation? Thanks.

[Blandy]

You really need to read up on essential dignities, the moon is at its detriment in Capricorn, and to make it even worse, it's badly placed in the 12th house. There is no reception, because your main co sigs don't recieve eachother, you are in his generic sig, but at most that promises that all you want is sex, a mate, or that you're not really intrested in his personality, but you do want him as a b/f.
Both of the sigs are obviously in detriment and not well placed, so while he wants you on an emotional rational level, all you want from him is something superficial.
You'll long for him sexually, or just long to have a bf and he'll probably long for you emotionally.
I also don't like the 12 house placement, he's hiding something from you or his "wife", or maybe both.

[Moondance]

Well, Blandy, I thought I was signalling awarenss of essential dignities by my reference to Saturn, but I guess it wasn't clear. I tried to be open to your message, but it seems so at odds with my feelings. The guy and I have been friends for years, and I have a deep regard for him as a person/man. All the moon/Saturn and the debilitation just reflected our positions in life to me, the points we are at in our spiritual development, and the relevance or power of our pasts. I'm glad you feel he longs for me emotionally, as that comforts me a bit. It IS true that I am uninterested in marriage or living with anyone, but my feelings are not superficial, and I do want the best for him. The sexual synastry in our charts is very strong, however, and if we could just get that out of the way, we might be able to develop in other ways. Ah well.

[Moondance]

BTW, Blandy, what are you using as co-significators?:34:

[Lissa]

Sorry Moondance,I don't see anything that says you will have sex with him.

First,your signifcator receives his by dignity,so you like him.Plus,you're in his house-a double confirmation that you have feeling for him.His significator is conjunct the Descendant(you),so he does have some feelings for you,but it seems like yours are stronger.

To start,I don't see any connection between your significators,showing that no interaction will ocurr.The end of the matter is ruled by Venus,and Venus doesn't connect to any of your significators,even though it occupies his house(the DSC).I'm interpreting this as a signal that he will have the last word.

Still,in horary relationships,we can use the Sun and Mars as significators for men and the Moon and Venus(being the two female principles)as significators for women.Still,even using this planets,the only applying aspect is the square between the Moon and Mars,but this is the only aspect between your signifcators and the end of the matter that can be found,so I would not take it as being a strong confirmation that you will have sex.Anyway,if anything does happen,probably only in8months from now.

[Moondance]

Thanks, Lissa. I love Homer's picture, BTW. Everybody who posts a query and wants a certain answer always tries to rebut the negatives people see, and Moi? No exception. I just have to point out that Venus, the end of things, is applying a trine to the house cusp of the 11th, the house of hopes and wishes, and a perfect sextile to the 5th house cusp in Taurus. Doesn't that and the moon (him) about to conjunct the asc., me, hold any weight? I think it does, but I don't know how much. :34:

[Moondance]

I had another thought on this, Lissa, the co sigs can only be used if they are not already taken as primary significators. The only one that is not "taken" is Venus, which will come into opposition with the moon soon. Venus also rules the 5th, sex, so it looks like "it" might happen, but we would end up wishing it hadn't. This is the usual result of oppositions, I understand. But I don't understand your statement about his significator receiving mine by dignity, or was it vice versa.Anyway, please explain 'cause it went over my head.

[Lynns]

Hmm, since this is a sex horary, if The 8th house significator is taken into account it might be a bit different.

Saturn is conjunct the 8th house cusp, showing your interest in that area.

His sun is in your 5th house, showing some romance.
Your Venus is in his turned 12th house, showing your secret desires and fantasies about him.

The sun almost trines Saturn, so it's most likely a yes.

Saturn receives the sun by sign; this shows your interest.

In his turned 5th house, you have moon and pluto there; this shows a strong romance interest. But the same 2 planets are in your 12th house - this shows you are unaware of his true feelings for you, and the power he has over you.

I take it as a yes, because his significator, the sun is in the 5th, a house of fun and sex, while yours is in the 8th (sex)
Your mars is also in his turned 8th house (!!) and trining your saturn.
But there won't be a partnership at this time (uranus in his turned 7th; very erratic)

I take Jupiter to represent his wife (in his turned 4th of endings);
he is going to have alot of contact with her (sun and mars sextile/trine jupiter).

But I take it as a yes, you're going to have sex; just don't expect more at this time

But since you are saturn debilitated in leo, but receive him by sign, please beware, because he's benefitting more from this "union" in the meantime, while you may be left as saturn is, in a "debilitated" state.

[tikana]

I tend to agree with Lynns

YES, you will have sexual encounter with him

Moon being in 12th basically means that he is hidden or has secret intentions.
I say 4 months TOPS

because moon is conjuncting Asce whcih is timing

then it gets backed by mars trinng saturn

regardless of receptions, i am getting a yes.. it will not be a smooth ride though cause moon does oppose venus at theend.. which tells me that even if you will have sex with him, relationship may not last

Regards!

[moonbow]

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