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Re: Can anyone tell me if they see any good in my chart ?
Hey Oren, as I don't see any reply from you, I'll assume you've possibly read what i did write last night. I wasn't going to post any more unless you were 'okay' with what I've already given you. But as I did mention your Part of Sudden Advancement and how it is right on the cusp of the those two degrees [I ended up with 16* Libra 00' 00" and that is the culmination of the 16th degree. At 16* Libra 00' 01" it becomes the 17th degree of Libra] I figure that I shouldn't just 'leave it hangin' ' there. So....
The "Part of Sudden Advancement", [oddly also known as the 'Hermetic Lot of Nemesis" {one of the seven 'Hermetic Lots'} for some reason no one has been able to determine as of yet..or has forgotten as these aren't 'newly invented' or 'recently discovered' techniques and tools but as ancient as anything on this earth and since they are an abstract precept that's part of this 'Matrix' of the Cosmos' Creation, they are were of intent within the design and construct of the same...thus older than the actual creation itself.] is derived from the formula: Asc. + Part of Fortune - Saturn.
As you told me you are a 'spiritual person', such as myself, and that you aren't a member or a practitioner of any particular religion. I don't know what you might have read or been told of the legends/alleged accounts/records et. all of the life and times of the man from Nazareth. I will assume then that you have heard of the 'Lost Years' of his life, those either 12 or 18 [depending on which you want to ascribe to..if either one for that matter.] years that are 'unaccounted for' until the time He reappeared in Israel at around 30 years old.
The renowned American clairvoyant know as the 'Sleeping Prophet', Edgar Cayce, gave many readings to individuals that had past lives in the area of Asia Minor around that time era. He also gave some readings to a few questions directed specifically to the topic of the Jewish carpenter as to what accounting Mr. Cayce might add or subtract from what is presently promoted as being the 'Truth'. He talked of the guys travels to Egypt for initiation into an occult 'Mystery School', his travels to Persian and India and back...and many a scholar, a researcher or historian has found a lot of evidence supporting the very things Cayce had spoke of. Even the so called "Aquarian Gospel' by Levi is for the most part an accounting of these travels. [Although I doubt the authenticity of the book...it was written around the turn of the 19th into the 20th century by some means of medium-ship or Channeling {I forget as I read it over 40 years ago...though I still have a copy of it in my bookcase.} and states that everything in the book to be the unfiltered and unadulterated truth...then goes on to state that for a fact the time period for Adam and Eve was about 6500 years B.C. ...you and I both know that's a lot of baloney. Yet, I have my own belief that the writer of the material knew some of the facts and thought they were doing the right thing, at the time, by making known the alternative views and, most very likely, felt that the end justified the means.]. Every year around the time of Easter, an independent tv channel, 'Channel 2', [non network, anyways] in Oakland, Calif. would run a movie a couple of times the week preceding it called "The Lost Years", during the 1970s' when I was living in the North Bay Area. It presented all evidence that had been gathered and was deemed to be genuine or authentic that gave support to the alternative views of a great many as to where, when and why Yeshua/Jesus went off to during those years.
[I apologize for being so long winded here, as I know that, even if you might already know of all I have mentioned, that there are others that will read this that might have absolutely no idea of what I'm writing about...and without this introductory to the subject the rest of this post will be completely lost as to being of any use to them.]
So, with all that having been stated, I can now get to the point.
It was only for the reason that this chart, that I have proposed [and am convinced 99.9% that it ....imho....of course... is.] be that of the Man from Naz., did become know to me that I determined that the Part of Sudden Advancement does seem to be actually what it says it is. It does appear to be that action or attitude, precept or technique that one needs to employ at some point in their life to get that 'big Leg Up' the ladder of progress in achieving their destiny. I t was for the chart that it demonstrated over and over through a multitude of Arabic/Astrological Parts/Lots that they are 'symbolically active'...and quite so. Not to mention it corroborated what Dane Rudhyar said we'd find to be the chart axis if anyone ever did come up with the genuine and accurate birth chart. It's why I decided to call the book "A Template for the Time." as it is a 'Template' of understanding and that by seeing how these symbols do indeed apply to what is known of the Man and by seeing in how and in what way they do we can then use it to guide us to understand our own birth charts far more knowledgeably that was considered to be possible before.
The Part of Sudden Advancement [Asc. + Part of Fortune - Saturn, btw, I personally only use diurnal for the Part of Fortune, because I am 99.9% sure that it is the only way it should be obtained and am rather assured to a some what lesser degree that it should thus probably be that way for all Parts/Lots that one attempts to obtain, but not as nearly as assured I am as for that of the Part of Fortune and it's counter Part of Spirit/Soul] that is ascertained from the natal chart I propose to be that of Yeshua/Jesus is; 10* Gemini 34', i.e. the 11th degree of Gemini, and from Dane Rudhyar's book once again:
"NEWLY OPENED LANDS OFFER THE PIONEER NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR EXPERIENCE.
KEYNOTE: The power and joy of new beginnings."
...if you'r e familiar with the readings of Cayce that pertain to the travels it was for the purpose of advanced learning and instruction from the greatest teachers of knowledge that pertains to the most advanced knowledge of spiritual understanding that is alleged to be, or had been, known to any man or woman.
As Cayce stated in a reading given to a man at that time that Edgar said he was the reincarnation of Jude, Yeshua/Jesus' youngest brother:
But prior to that he said in reading 5749-7, so as to establish why Cayce said there indeed had been siblings [as many deny that there were siblings, that's their belief and I have to respect their beliefs, but they also have to be tolerant of my own.]
Q. At what time after the birth of Jesus did Mary and Joseph take up the normal life of a married couple, and bring forth the issue of James?
A. [Cayce]: "Ten years. then came in succession: James, the daughter Ruth, and Jude."
In reading 137: "Jude lived in the days when the Master came into the Promised Land. And He followed closely in the ways of the Teachings, as set by him being His brother in the flesh. In the present [incarnation, at the time of the reading in the early 20th century], He has a leniency toward all laws concerning every mode of worship to Jehova, and a respect for every persons' own belief."
In reading 2067: Q. "Please give facts about Jesus' education in palestine, the schools He attended, how long, what He studied and under what name He was registered."
A. "The periods of study in Palestine were only at the time of His sojourn in the Temple or in Jerusalem during those periods, when He was quoted by Luke as being among the Rabbi, or teachers. His studies in Persia, India and Egypt covered much greater periods. He was always registerered under the name Jeshua*."
In reading 1471: Q. "How closely was Judy, the head of the Essenes, associated with Jesus in his Palestine sojourn?"
A. For a portion of the experience the entity Judy was the Teacher. How close? So close that the very heart and purposes were proclaimed as to those things that were traditions! For the entity sent Him to Persia, to Egypt, yea to India, that there might be completed the more perfect knowledge of the material ways in the activities of Him who became the Way, the Truth!"
[Anyone that would like to read some more as to what was said about these travels should get the book of selections from the readings and edited by Jeffrey Furst, and published as; "Edgar Cayces' Story of Jesus".
Because I find it to be of such a particular notable interest to all members of the a.w. forum in general, I want to seize this rare opportunity, and from that book, thus, I also submit the following.]
from reading 2067-11
Q. "Tell about Judy teaching Jesus, where and what subjects she taught Him, and what subjects she planned to have Him study abroad."
A. "The prophecies! Where? In her home. When? During those periods from his twelfth to his fifteenth-sixteenth year, when he went to Persia and then to India. In Persia, when his father died. In India, when John first went to Egypt-where Jesus joined him and both became the initiates in the pyramid or temple there."
Q. "What subjects did Judy plan to have Jesus study abroad?"
A. "What you would today call Astrology."
Q. "Under whom did He study in India?"
A. "Kahjian."
Q. "Under whom in Persia?"
A. "Junner."
Q. "Egypt?"
A. "Zar."
Next, I'll go over both the 16th and 17th degrees of Libra. The 360 degrees of the Zodiac, with the particular Sabian symbols ascribed to them that are actually precepts of Cosmic Law that, morph one into the next in procession, and there's not a clear distinction of one precept abruptly ending and another one then beginning... as like that of the sound that is made when tuning, from one station to the next, on an old radio that has an 'analog tuner', as opposed to a more modern one which has a digital tuner. So considering that this is as close as one can shave it ...being as to either way it does actually fall... you should consider both of the two degrees Sabian symbology as your Part of Sudden Advancement...maybe a little more emphasis to one rather than the other...and you'll just have to figure that out from experience.
[I did write what must surely seem an excessive or too elaborate a post just to give mention to one more Astrological Part. {...Especially so, as for the fact, of which, that I haven't even got around to actually doing so as yet.} But I do write these, seemingly, excessively wordy posts at times for the reason that I'm archiving them and may very likely use them in the next book which I'm presently involved with but only in the planning and layout stage at this time. Thanks for being understanding, as I hope you might so be. I figure that those that wish to read it will, those that wish to skim through it will do that too, and others can just pick up the key points and get to the finish and the gist of it all, as well. If I left anyone out...you can figure out where you want to categorize your own interests and methods. piercethevale]
*[I prefer using the letter, 'Y', rather than a 'J', myself, when spelling His name...as it is pronounced with the Y sound; as for example in the former country of Jugoslavia, which in English, more recently, is more commonly spelled as Yugoslavia...and as for the reason that, the Spanish have an H sound for the letter 'J'...so, as Edgar only spoke, while a stenographer wrote it all down, I think that Edgar would have spelled it with a Y himself if he could have reason to write the name and that, in all probability, Edgar in fact would have said to spell it with a 'Y', if he had been asked.]
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Palrapar...!!!
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Re: Can anyone tell me if they see any good in my chart ?
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