Pluto on the angles in natal & transits

[Blackempress]

So many people are fearful of Pluto transits, it would be a blessing to know how many have survived those transits & what the presentations were.
Would even love to learn how Pluto manifests on the natal angles !

(Yes, I'm pluto obsessed!)

[gen6k]

I have like a 9 degree orb Sun opposition Pluto. I guess I can see it working natally in the 4th. My "emotional area". This is when people are like okay I need to get in my comfort zone that is usually a cancer thing even when they are in public like kind of a safe space.

Okay so when I'm home, and I used to be on facebook. I would be kind of psychologizing all this phenomena, kind of like seeing what people left and what it really meant. I dont do that here because its kind of like a nice public open forum, but yeah I guess in that area I have deeper thoughts.

The things that I end up doing are not necessarily more melancholic all the time, but they are "heavier". Also the topics I get in to while in the home area are more esoteric than the norm. For example watching terrence mckenna lectures, hes a scorpio-sag.

As for the possible psychological complex with the opposition, I do feel plutos power and sometimes "bask" in it. That is what I see the scorpio pluto generation Taurus opposition, Aquarius square, Leo square end up doing more. Their personalities are tempered with more "gravity" regardless of their flamboyancy (leo), coolness (aquarius), quiet solidity (taurus). I think each sign has a more "accentuated" expression of their own sign with like a far apart hard aspect.


As for Pluto hard transits, usually, the initial section is a shock, could be dooming especially along with a saturn transit, but even with a saturn transit. Usually the universe aligns it so another transit opens it up on the next hit, or there are several sections if its retrograding. The "hard to control" part doesnt last as long as the whole transits thats for sure, so its important to make sure to just hold space during that time. Like don't overdo drama, obsession, alchohol use, sex, power trips, etc. Instead have an outlet and concentrate on its possible highlighting, like obsession towards a goal that you always wanted to do but never had the force to do it. Usually theres kind of a "sidelining" aspect that has to happen also, on the first section whatever the obstacle is its not good to go head on in to the endpoint. The most important thing I learned is to stay in touch with previous things that worked for example if a depression hits, but one starts to think that its psycho-spiritual and one should go through it without any kind of supplementary help since its pluto. Well one should have resources for the self available.

Eventually it does start to reverse, like there are blue rays on the starlite abyss, so that is kind of when the "urgency" goes down. Then a proper kind of "cleansing" is needed to ensure the step out of chains. So one ends up with a different kind of charactor that doesn't stand for what used to, not in the re-naiving sense but trancending built up psychological implications.


Ive probably had like 2-3 pluto experiences. I think through them, I was kind of like flailing open before. Now I guess i'm more "concentrated".


I also think that there is a correlation between pluto doses, and it kind of leaves off where it started. If its a small dose then its not as profound, and there is less lingerance afterwards. I guess it didnt test me that hard when I was younger because I havent found a significant spiritual-mission before. So I synthesized part of the pluto experience in releasing several things that maybe have to do with each other. The difference between how I respond in the world, and how I could respond in a particular task. Since pluto is psychological in nature there is not that much boundries between seperate occassions.

Since pluto is water, even if someone didn't know astrology, if one pays close attention to the details of the self or others, then it is obvious that there is some sort of open space throughout the entire thing. So its important to not go "too far down" when you know its "there" in a certain fashion, and also there is some sort of push towards it inherently. What is weird about it is plutos "courseness", it seems to never come out that directly to the exterior, but its there inside. In hard transit its type of manifestation kind of gets down past the animalistic aspect of it down to its actual decay.

Then I also had to deal with a pluto semiquadrate sun I think it kept on bringing up past personality faults or things that I didnt like in other people. I saw a correlation between several people that I had a relationship with, and decided that I either had to get over those feelings or do justice to it by not going for those types of people. Supposively its supposed to end on june 7th, and now im deciding that I'm going to try to do better plus not deal with petty self-feelings.

[!4C]

I already mentioned my natal IC pluto in the other thread. I could add that both my parents are scorpio, and I've always been on the same wavelength as them. As far back as I can remember I wanted to be contributor around the house. As a result, they were never strict with me and I was given a lot more responsibility at younger age than my siblings. To this day, my mother tells everyone I was a perfectly behaved child, and my siblings pick on me about it.

Pluto transiting the 4th basically describes the natal condition. When pluto transited through my 5th it felt like pluto was totally on my side. Maybe this because my scorpio sun is in the 5th (ruled by scorpio). That changed when pluto entered my 6th. Now I feel it grinding me down. I haven't been able to determine why yet. It seems like we are old friends at odds now.

As a scorpio, pluto does not mystify me at all. Neptune, on the other hand, is the alluring magician that stimulates all my senses. It makes me feel like a fool and I love the mystery.