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05-26-2012, 07:06 AM
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Can someone read my chart and its meanings? 12th house here, and confused. Thank you
Hey everyone, i'm new to this website and thrilled to know that i'm not the only one who has great interest in astrology. Only problem being, i'm not to much of an expert on chart readings. Although, i do research the basics (moon, houses and such). i did come across something that caught my attention. I noticed that 3 of my planets (including moon, which i hear is important) are in the 12th house. Now Ive gotten mixed responses; some being, physic abilities, and some stating depression. At this point in my life,im confused, i worry a whole lot and put others before me (mainly famly). I can be so joyful and then i get down...really down. Therefore i would rather just have a better understanding of my chart as a whole and learn from there. Please if anyone has to time to help me get a better understanding of who i am as a person, i will greatly appreciate it. Another note, I have my sun in Aquarius (air) and my moon Taurus (earth), which, is quite the opposite. Is that good or bad and if so can anyone explain what personality traits i can get from the both? THANK YOU!!!
Sun Aquarius 23.59 Ascendant Gemini 18.42
Moon Taurus 20.45 II Cancer 9.40
Mercury Capricorn 28.30 III Leo 0.11
Venus Aquarius 11.16 IV Leo 23.59
Mars Taurus 14.01 V Virgo 25.25
Jupiter Taurus 27.01 VI Scorpio 6.39
Saturn Capricorn 10.18 VII Sagittarius 18.42
Uranus Capricorn 4.03 VIII Capricorn 9.40
Neptune Capricorn 11.26 IX Aquarius 0.11
Pluto Scorpio 15.12 Midheaven Aquarius 23.59
Lilith Libra 0.33 XI Pisces 25.25
Asc node Pisces 4.52 XII Taurus 6.39
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05-26-2012, 07:36 AM
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Re: Can someone read my chart and its meanings? 12th house here, and confused. Thank
Actually the 12th whole sign house placements of Mars and the Moon are not all that "bad":
-Moon is in exaltation in Taurus, so that helps a good deal to modify the 12th house placement and might well be an indication of intuitional and perhaps even psychic potentials
-Mars is detrimented both by being in its house of sorrow (the 12th) and in detriment (in Taurus) HOWEVER, Mars is in an elevated degree of Taurus (see my thread "Elevated and Pitted Degrees" in the Dignities forum), so this largely overcomes the detriment, and I would say that at worst Mars represents a mixed influence in this chart (rather than an outright disruptive influence IF Mars had NOT been in this elevated degree) Also Mars is much helped by being conjunct the constructive star Almach (of the quality and influence of Venus), so I consider Mars almost being a benefic net influence, here. Indeed, the Almach/Mars connection might reduce the negative Venus square Mars influence to an extent, since Almach brings in the Venus quality into the Mars sphere.
Just an additional note: you might be feeling somewhat more lonely or confused, since perhaps March of 2011, because the disruptive South Node has been transiting your rising sign and first house (Gemini) since that time; if this has in fact played a role, be aware that the SN will transit OUT of Gemini in September of 2012, which might clear out some of the negativity you have been feeling.
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05-26-2012, 07:49 AM
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Re: Can someone read my chart and its meanings? 12th house here, and confused. Thank
Bare with me, i'm still trying to understand all the facts you've given me (which by the way i'm very thankful for) should i be more aware of my placement in mars, and is my love life not good with my Venus placement? ...thank you Dr.
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05-26-2012, 07:54 AM
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Re: Can someone read my chart and its meanings? 12th house here, and confused. Thank
Actually the lord of the 7th house (love, marriage) is Jupiter and ITS placement in the 12th whole sign house, actually is much more problematical (relative to love, marriage) than the placement of either Mars or the Moon! And Jupiter is conjunct the very disruptive star Algol, there in the 12th house-ask me, this Jupiter situation is likely the root of problems, and note that currently Jupiter is transiting Taurus, so it is currently activating its difficult natal 12th house/Algol impression-combine this transit along with the SN transit of your rising sign which I mentioned above, and it is easy to understand (astrologically at least) the problems you have been having for awhile.
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05-26-2012, 07:57 AM
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Re: Can someone read my chart and its meanings? 12th house here, and confused. Thank
And you say things will get better towards September? Or will Jupiter transiting Taurus be there for a while? thanks again for answering these questions. Its a big relief for me
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05-26-2012, 08:06 AM
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Re: Can someone read my chart and its meanings? 12th house here, and confused. Thank
Things will likely improve in September, as the SN transits out of Gemini; however, the Jupiter transit will last longer, and represents a basic "systemic" problem (in my opinion) which means that Jupiter's impression on your energy field must be remedied (corrected)-now, if you believe in (or accept)such things, check out the indications I have provided in my thread (in the Medical astrology forum) entitled "Remedial Astrology: Supporting Venus and Jupiter"...
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05-27-2012, 05:09 PM
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please explain the aspects of my chart.
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I still don't know much a bout my chart and I'm a bit confused. My sun is in Aquarius, Moon is in Taurus and i have a Gemini Raising. Sense there opposite, (air, earth) is that a bad combination to have? Also if anyone can explain the positions of my planets and houses. Point out the goods and bad that you may see on my chart, Thanks again.
Sun Aquarius 23.59 Ascendant Gemini 18.42
Moon Taurus 20.45 II Cancer 9.40
Mercury Capricorn 28.30 III Leo 0.11
Venus Aquarius 11.16 IV Leo 23.59
Mars Taurus 14.01 V Virgo 25.25
Jupiter Taurus 27.01 VI Scorpio 6.39
Saturn Capricorn 10.18 VII Sagittarius 18.42
Uranus Capricorn 4.03 VIII Capricorn 9.40
Neptune Capricorn 11.26 IX Aquarius 0.11
Pluto Scorpio 15.12 Midheaven Aquarius 23.59
Lilith Libra 0.33 XI Pisces 25.25
Asc node Pisces 4.52 XII Taurus 6.39
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05-27-2012, 05:22 PM
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Re: please explain the aspects of my chart.
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thanks
I still don't know much a bout my chart and I'm a bit confused. My sun is in Aquarius, Moon is in Taurus and i have a Gemini Raising. Sense there opposite, (air, earth) is that a bad combination to have? Also if anyone can explain the positions of my planets and houses. Point out the goods and bad that you may see on my chart, Thanks again.
Sun Aquarius 23.59 Ascendant Gemini 18.42
Moon Taurus 20.45 II Cancer 9.40
Mercury Capricorn 28.30 III Leo 0.11
Venus Aquarius 11.16 IV Leo 23.59
Mars Taurus 14.01 V Virgo 25.25
Jupiter Taurus 27.01 VI Scorpio 6.39
Saturn Capricorn 10.18 VII Sagittarius 18.42
Uranus Capricorn 4.03 VIII Capricorn 9.40
Neptune Capricorn 11.26 IX Aquarius 0.11
Pluto Scorpio 15.12 Midheaven Aquarius 23.59
Lilith Libra 0.33 XI Pisces 25.25
Asc node Pisces 4.52 XII Taurus 6.39
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You have two stelliums in earth sign.
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05-27-2012, 06:30 PM
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Aqaruius Sun, Tuarus Moon, Gemini Rasing - ...
Can anyone explain the aspects of having these combinations? I know Aquarius and Taurus can be quite the opposite (air, earth), can anyone tell me the good and bad traits it can reflect on me? thank you
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05-27-2012, 06:41 PM
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Re: please explain the aspects of my chart.
Per your question:
The elemental expressions of earth and air are considered incompatible in a general sense. They are not opposite, however they are contradictory in nature. Earth is about all things material and physical; air is about experiences on the mental/social level. It can be difficult to balance these energies and thus is apt to cause external conflicts or difficulties.
The predominant red line represents 'opposition', while the blue lines represent aspects of harmony or opportunity. Your primary 'challenge' in life is show by configuration between Pluto in opposition to Jupiter, Mars and the Moon; indeed this can be a difficult challenge to overcome that will tend to be a repetitive feature in your life until you have gained an understanding of what this inner conflict represents
Pluto in Scorpio – power and control; the need for transformation on the psychological level.
This shows the necessity of using your personal power in positive ways, rather than using it to try and control others; it is the need to react appropriately to stress or crises so that resolution can be acquired rather than open conflict. This planet contributes to obsessions, possesiveness, domination, resentment or repressed anger. You are required to use integrity and accountability in all you do, for the consequences of negativity will be reflected back to you.
With Jupiter in Taurus: financial excesses and over-indulgence; creating balance between the material and spiritual; understanding that money does not always contribute to security and stability.
With Moon in Taurus: feeling the need for material security which can go to excess. This aspect represents psychological wounding in childhood, especially from the mother that may impede your
personal relationships; an internalized need to be 'taken care of' and enjoy the pleasures in life.
With Mars in Taurus. External expressions of affection and warmth, although the affliction can make you stubborn as a bull, with set opinions that can make you seem arrogant. You are a builder in life, but highly defensive about your sense of security; some may see you as being something of a bully.
The Moon/Mars conjunct can make you reckless, impatient, combative.
Sun in Aquarius: the drive for networking and having friends; afflicted shows difficulty relating to your sense of identity and autonomy; acting unpredictably, eccentric, rebellious against authority, non-conforming.
Expression of the persona; the diguise you wear in public:
Sun/Aquarius; Moon/Taurus; Ascendant/Gemini: in the attempt to balance the inner self with the outer reality, the Sun and Moon energies project and are channeled through the Gemini facade: friendly, social, communicative, witty, flirtatious, in search of mental connections with others.
Lunar phase at birth: first quarter
“You have a very strong will. In the midst of building your dreams you seek the help of others in doing so.” the Lunar phase at birth also represents the 'domestic imprinting' experienced from the parents in early life which will then be reflected in your own domestic sphere.
Some thoughts for you to consider:
If you are interested in delving deeper into the implications of your birth chart, please feel free to contact me. Just here to help.
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05-27-2012, 06:50 PM
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Re: please explain the aspects of my chart.
Thank you very much. 2 quick questions, if you were to take a guess; what kind of challenges will i be facing with Pluto in opposition to Jupiter, Mars and the Moon, will it last forever? Also, the sun in Aquarius and moon in Taurus is not a good combination to have, so to speak?
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05-27-2012, 07:24 PM
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8th house Stellium in Capicorn. Anyone interpret
What are the ups and downs, what does it interpret?
I have Mercury, Saturn, and Neptune in the 8th house; all in Capricorn.
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05-27-2012, 08:12 PM
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Re: 8th house Stellium in Capicorn. Anyone interpret
You have to look at it in the light of the whole chart, but briefly, control/discipline and individual integrity (Saturn/Capricorn) will need to be balanced with issues of yielding to the chaotic and transforming world of feelings (Neptune/8th house), particularly with regard to the way in which you use your rational mind to perceive, categorise and communicate information about your environment.
I noticed in another thread that you started that you have Sun in Aquarius, Moon in Taurus and Ascendant in Gemini. None of these placements favour the 'chaotic and transforming world of feelings' part of the equation mentioned above, so this could be the part of your chart where you are forced to come out of your rational air/earth basic temperament and relinquish control. But this is all speculative of course, especially without seeing the whole chart.
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05-27-2012, 08:25 PM
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Re: please explain the aspects of my chart.
I say this:
the chart aspects depict certain 'pre-determined' challenges that we are meant to resolve over the lifetime: still we can use our free will to change such outcomes. The squares represent challenges that are sourced from within, whereby we are required to finally recognize and come to terms with our repressed conflicts that manifest externally. The opposition is more of a face to face confrontation involving a theme of polarization that must eventually be balanced. These aspects do tend to set up certain themes and patterns of experience that will repeat themselves until the individual has learned appropriate ways to resolve such problems: as within, so without.
I have given you some basic potentialities involving the Pluto involvement. A closer look suggests: - a long term psychological blockage buried deep within the Psyche. This requires a necessary purging, over time, of internalized fears, phobias and control issues. The keyword for Pluto is 'transformation' – releasing the inner emotional baggage that impedes your spiritual growth. Primarily Pluto/Scorpio is about gaining mastery over one's own emotions to channel through positive avenues of expression, rather than abusing such power to control or manipulate others.
- The conflicts will continue to be played out as subconscious reactions on your part, so long as you continue to allow it to simmer below the level of consciousness. With every transit over these hot zones in your chart, the patterns will be reactivated.
Also the disequilibrium between the Sun and Pluto depicts repetitive power struggles involving your sense of Identity and Autonomy. Run-ins with the law or authorities can be expected due to your non-conforming tendencies and rebelliousness. Emotional repression can be the signature of Pluto in Scorpio.
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“the sun in Aquarius and moon in Taurus is not a good combination to have?” The energy of air wants to be socially involved with others, while the earth energy prefers to be self-sufficient and secure in it's own right.
Put simply the energies of Aquarius and Taurus are difficult to balance. On the one hand you want individuality and opportunities to express your uniquess, while your need for material security could stifle your inherent creativity and humanitarian ideals. You may be too concerned with the physical experiences of life and not attuned to your emotional needs. Emotional expression is important to our sense of well-being and wholeness.
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05-27-2012, 08:41 PM
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Re: please explain the aspects of my chart.
words can't express my gratitude! thank you for taking the time in answering my quetions. I'm still a tad confused but i'll learn little by little. your right about the run ins with the law, just got in trouble recently and its a pain to go through. how long will trouble with the law last, you think? (
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Re: 8th house Stellium in Capicorn. Anyone interpret
I'm a bit confused. Has another thread just been merged into this one. I thought I responded to a new thread ten minutes ago??!!
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one chart reading request posted many times, to miquar
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I'm a bit confused. Has another thread just been merged into this one. I thought I responded to a new thread ten minutes ago??!!
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This person posted one chart reading request over and over again. So I merged every version of this chart reading request into one big thread.
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05-27-2012, 09:13 PM
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Re: one chart reading request posted many times, to miquar
i apologize for the inconvenience, i wasn't aware that asking "over and over again" questions, especially when one is new to this site would circulate a burden to you. Also, this "person" has a name. Come correct.
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Re: one chart reading request posted many times, to miquar
Hi. You don't have a stellium involving Mercury - it involves Saturn and Neptune in close conjunction, both more widely conjunct Uranus. Mercury doesn't make many major aspects - just the trine to Jupiter unless you count the very wide Mercury Moon trine also. So my other post doesn't apply in the same way. Your 8th house is very loaded, though Mercury could be seen as affecting the 9th as much as the 8th. Uranus and Neptune in Capricorn suggest the needs of a generation to come to a new understanding of authority issues and the way society is defined and structured, and Saturn there could mean that you are part of a subgroup within that generation which needs to do something concrete with that new understanding. The 8th house is, on one level, the compartment of the psyche where we store away all the things we're not ready to acknowledge because they pose too great a threat to our reality. So perhaps you experience subtle or obvious compulsions from deep within which are geared towards transforming who you are as an individual, and which also reflect some transformation trying to happen in society.
How you experience intense emotional intimacy with a partner, and how you feel about combining resources or letting go of control in any way, could give you clues to where you are at with your 8th house stellium.
With Saturn strong in its own sign, and Neptune not favoured by the rest of the chart, you probably try to keep a tight control over experiences which could potentially transform you at a deep level.
The Taurus stellium in the 12th suggests a large appetite for enjoying, and feeling secure within, the material and sensual worlds, but that this is not easy for you to explore and satisfy due to the energies being twisted out of shape by your parents or ancestors, who have 'passed the buck' to you to try to redeem things.
You may have issues with being 'too greedy' in some way. This could be backed by the Aquarian Sun and Venus, and also possibly the strong 8th house. In order to enjoy the sensual and the material you may have to find ways which do not distance you from the rest of life. 12th house energies can remain always a little out of reach - energies that always must be shared with the Universe.
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Re: one chart reading request posted many times, to miquar
Thank you Miquar, for taking time in answering my concerns on behalf of the 8th house and other aspects.
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Re: one chart reading request posted many times, to miquar
No problem. It occurred to me I should clarify something - when I said there may be an issue with greed, I meant that you may not be able to let yourself enjoy the sensual and physical fruits of the manifest world, because you may feel that this would be too self-indulgent. You might have been given messages during your upbringing that one shouldn't be too focused on material gain or physical indulgence, or messages that it is futile to attempt to find fulfilment in such things. That would be one of the typical ways that 12th house Taurus planets could be expressed anyway, especially with the planets involved being the Moon (emotional hunger), Mars (Urge to chase after that which is desired) and Jupiter (expansion and openness to grace).
But all this can only be speculation without more feedback from you about how you actually experience the parts of your chart which people are commenting on. People do get a lot more out of their threads when they give definite feedback and so engage in a deepening dialogue with the people looking at their charts.
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