Uranus Conj. Part of Surgery. A 10 month ordeal.

[piercethevale]

Howdy. A number of you members already know that I went to the emergency room at the local hospital on march 31 and was admitted @ 1:19 pm... had surgery for 'diverticulitis' a few minutes later.
They removed about 6 inches of my lower colon and the surgeon told me that in about 8 months time it should be possible to restore the bowel system to its original layout and close up the stoma I know have on my chest.
As the lab didn't detect any perforation in the 6 in section and 'perforation' of the colon is the diagnosed cause... thus the doctor has some doubts about 'restoring things. As the pin prick might be in the lower section remaining...that he has worries about how such a major surgical for the second time in less than a year may take some costly toll on my overall health..etc...
Well, in the last month, I've met three people that all had what i had and refused their operations and are alive, healthy and well today. They were all in their late 20s or early 30s when this happened to them, so, at twice that age I know it's not like bouncing back from a broken bone or a bad cold.
The thing is I want this procedure done... I have no desire to continue on into my 60s and on starting out with a bag of **** dangling under my armpit 24/7 the rest of my years... I think I'll be alright..but if not, I've had a good run.

Here's the so far for 2012 as per anything I've run into dealing with my natal Chart.
My natal Part of Surgery is [Asc. + Saturn - Mars] is @ 05* Aries 23' ...Uranus was @ 04* Aries 54' 59" at 1:19 pm that day... within 1/2 of a degree perfect conj. to my Part of Surgery.

I looked at a progressed natal for March 31, 2012 and it was interesting.
The thing about Uranus is that it is going to go retrograde on July 14 @ apprx 08* Aries 32'...it will conj. my Part of Surgery again in retro on Oct. 31, 2012 and in direct motion for the 'Final Return' on Jan 25th 2013.
The surgeon told me May 3rd, when i last saw him...to make an appt. to talk about a second surgery in Nov.... so, I wouldn't have wanted a surgery when it's in retro..and I'm actually not all to certain that the event is the most opportune time to undergo such a thing. That it did happen on the occasion of the first event and that it went smoothly may have just been of some opportune factor that might not be in affect again.
I have a very positive feeling about Uranus conj. Part of Surgery ... just as I would have a positive feeling about Mercury conj the Part. Uranus, I assume, will bring ideal conditions for 'Higher Minds' [...Minds of Doctors, Surgeons...] to operate at best efficiency with the added Uranian enhancement of activated intuitive receptors.
Here's the rub...I cast a progressed natal chart for Jan 25t, 2013
and did the progressed...
Part of Surgery,
Part of Death & Disaster [Asc. + C8 - Moon]
Part of Fatality & Tragedy Asc. + Saturn - Sun...and I have found to be about the 'symbolism' of ones death to the world... I haven't found it to be a point of activation ]
Part of Peril [Asc.+ R8 - Saturn]
and lastly the...
Part of Sickness [Asc. + Mars - Saturn ...and is the opposite of the formula for the part of Surgery.

..now check this out
the progressed Part of Surgery is 14* Aries 18',
prog. Part of Death and Disaster is 14* Aries 23'
prog. Part of Fatality & Tragedy is 14* Aries 52'
prog. Part of Peril is 0* Libra 22' 18"
and lastly the
prog. Part of Sickness 0* Libra 58' 49"

...other astro influences on jan 25t, 2013 to my natal;
Venus @ 20* Cap. 52' 35" approaching conj. to my natal part of Faith & Trust [Asc. + Merc. - Moon] @ 21* Cap. 04'
trans. Chiron @ 07* Pisces 18' 14" approaching conj. to my natal Hermetic Part of Victory @ 07* Pisces 13'
Jupiter @ 08* Gemini 22' conj. in retro approach to my natal mars @ 04* Gemini 05'
trans. Mars @ 24* Aquarius 16' conj. natal Moon @ 24* Aquarius 03'
trans. Sun conj. North Node in the 7th of Aquarius


...what to do?

I figure it's best to wait till sometime later..I've taken a glance at March 19th 2013 the day mars will conj. my natal Part of Surgery and I like a lot of the overall aspects..but, i don't know enough about this Part of Surgery to know if mars passing over it is good or not... I assume it to be good... anyone know anything more specific about opportune times to work with the part of Surgery or just anything about 'timing and surgery'?
Thanks, ptv

[piercethevale]

Well, this is becoming more and more a most depressing outlook for me astrologically wise.
I hadn't noticed that come early next year that transiting Neptune will be square my natal Mars @ 04* Gemini 05'. According to my trusted handbook on transits this event gives rise to bacterial infections, wrongful anesthesia procedures during surgery... wrong, erroneous drug prescriptions or being administered...poor or inadequate treatment while hospitalized.

Jeeeeezuz.... I can't seem to catch a break here. It won't be until early 2016 before Neptunes' influence on my natal Mars tapers off and then, at that time, transiting Saturn will will be opposite my natal Mars.

As for malefic aspects from Neptune to my natal Mars, I've only experienced a transiting Neptune opposite my natal Mars in April 1972..and at that time, transiting Venus, Mars and Saturn were all conjunct my natal Mars...!?!?!?!?!
I don't recall any adverse occurrences to my physical well being back in 1972...in fact I was pretty doggone healthy... maybe about as 'in the pink' as I've ever been during my life.

Anyone with any transiting Neptune square natal Mars stories that you'll share with me...?
I sure would appreciate some sort of feed back to this thread. I know it's undesirable territory ... placing oneself in a position of possibly doing someone more harm than good via medical advice based on this 'craft'... and I sure would avoid it... and certainly have as I've never responded to anyones questions pertaining Astrology and physical health issues... even my clairvoyant friend, Clarisse, as excellent as her talent is won't allow herself to be used for any sort of medical procedure..she will offer insight as to what is the source or cause of most ailments and what one can do to improve their health and remove any conditions that may have caused an illness or is contributing to it's resistance to the bodys' healing abilities...but as for anything that a physician should diagnose and evaluate... is life threatening, must be treated with drugs or surgery...she'll tell you flat out to consult a Doctor and follow their orders.
...but, if anyone has a transiting Neptune square natal Mars health story that they can share with me I would be most appreciative... and I promise that I will not in any way cause you any karmic debt or obligation...[meaning, I waive my right to sue anyone in court for something written that I might somehow implement in some harmful way to myself... thanks, ptv]

[piercethevale]

Well, I discovered something I was heretofore unaware of.
The Part derived from Asc. + Neptune - Mars is identified by at least two appellations that I know of. The Part of Damage and or the Part of Mis-Understanding.
...I have a strong hunch that "Part of Mis Understanding", is probably 'off'...as the Part derived from Asc. + Mercury - Mars is known as the Part of Innocence, or the Part of Disputes , or the Part of Lawsuits...
...there's your 'mis-understandings'...IMHO...
So , I figure that Part of Damage is probably a lot more accurate if not entirely so. [It is a 'modern' Part as it includes Neptune in the calculation as the 'significator' of the formula. As it includes Mars it may be that the 'Damage' referred to, could be to the physical body.
TFor my natal chart, this "Part of Damage" calculates to 04* Aries 57' ... Uranus was about as dead center on that point as it could of got the afternoon of March 31st... [03' difference in a Part is only a 15 second difference in the birth time... when one is using a part that has the Asc. or one of the House Cusps as the 'personal point']
This is my first experience with any of the trans-Saturnian planets affecting Aries [...well, actually, it's just about everbodys' first lifetime experience except those of you that are over 80 years old and caught Uranus' last pass through Aries.] ..so I've never had to deal with anything 'too heavy' affecting anything astrological of mine in the early degrees of Aries. To have this 'Part of Damage' immediately preceding my Part of Surgery might be a sure recipe for trouble.
I also have a "Part of Unusual Events" [Asc. + Uranus - Moon] @ 08* Aries 26', and I just discovered this afternoon that the formula, Asc. + Neptune - Jupiter, is known as the, "Part of Cancer {Malignant}" .and mine is @ 09* Aries 37'.