Venus in Gemini - until August 2012

[Caro]

Yes Ive heard of you serial monogamists.... go on try living on your own for a year or two! (easy said for an aqua sun and mars in libra imprisoned in 12th)

deja vue - the rx period was when I made the connection with these two. ta da! only just thought about this. Both killed by injuries to head. one a gunshot wound and the other decapitated.

8th house - lots of folklore in this house ie mystery and intrigue but nothing proven.

Positive stuff is im writing too - joined a local course which is free! (thankfully) and yes Im trying my hand at crime fiction.

[ShadySun]

Venus (and Jupiter) in Gemini is currently transiting my seventh house. Surprisingly, this summer I have not been that social. I am home from college and currently unemployed until I go back to school, so I have spent a good percentage of my time inside, in solitude.

I've been using my free time to learn/study/read up on new topics. I've gotten into meditation and taoism. I have also started an astrology video series on YouTube, which is a form of communication/networking/learning/teaching. That's very Venus in Gemini, I guess.

When I do (rarely) get together with friends, things go smoothly. I started off my summer with a trip to California with my close friend (who's my polar opposite and partner in crime... Venus in Gemini!). Since my return, I find myself more balanced, which reflects in my social interactions. This energy suggests opportunities for partnership, BUT I am still very single. I guess partnerships aren't necessarily synonymous with romantic relationships.

All in all, I thought I'd be much for social, but I've been a bit of a homebody. Maybe it's because my natal Venus is in Scorpio? Maybe it's because I'm away from most of my college friends, and I am bored of my hometown.

[Munch]

I believe that this puts Libra in your 11th house of social groups. Libra is ruled by Venus. Saturn is currently in Libra, so I am wondering if this plays out in your not so social attitude of the moment.

Do you have any planets in the 11th house? Are they being squared by Pluto from the 2nd house or Uranus from the 4th (especially)?

[Caro]

so your natal venus is in 12th house?
I think this probably affects the transit too.
I think this transit was also impacted by SN - so maybe did not bring what people expected.

[ShadySun]

Originally Posted by Munch

I believe that this puts Libra in your 11th house of social groups. Libra is ruled by Venus. Saturn is currently in Libra, so I am wondering if this plays out in your not so social attitude of the moment.

Do you have any planets in the 11th house? Are they being squared by Pluto from the 2nd house or Uranus from the 4th (especially)?

You're correct! Here's a link to my natal chart: http://interactive.0800-horoscope.co...States&lang=en

That's a very good point. I didn't put two and two together. As you can see, I have a stellium in the 11th house, so I guess I'm super affected by Saturn's transit there? I'm not sure if they're being squared or not (still learning each day about aspects and transits). Please let me know!

[may28gemini]

I have natal 20 Gemini Venus. T Venus now is at 19 which is going to conjunct my N Venus exact in a few hours HA! I actually met someone... he's a Libra and younger than me... by nearly 8 years. I look young so I end up attracting younger guys... and yet, I always prefer guys who are older or at least, around my age. All my past guys have been younger and the roles were reversed where they act older and look older than me. Even my ex-husband was younger than me- by 2.5 months! HA!

Venus goes retrograde once every 18 months so I don't think it's as difficult as some of the other planets. So what if you get a haircut and it wasn't cut evenly? Hair grows back in a few weeks. Pffffttttt Gemini Venus is lighthearted, fun, and flirtatious and in retrograde mode, I didn't think it was bad at all. When Venus goes retrograde in a serious sign like in Cancer, Scorpio, or Capricorn... that's when it gets painfully depressing and excruciatingly gloomy.

Again, Gemini always get a bad rep. Gemini Venus doesn't mean someone who's going to bed hop and get married several times and divorce -that's Sagittarius Venus (Aries Venus too). Nowadays, it's hard for anyone to avoid the topic of divorce and promiscuity has always been a human issue since the dawn of time. But anyway, Gemini Venus tends to be a little bit TOO selective and end up being solo a lot. Gemini Venus is esp. picky about intelligence combined with looks so it's somewhat of a critical placement for Venus to be in. Whereas exalted Pisces Venus forgives all and finds it easy to be with others, Gemini Venus will analyze things quickly, discard it, and not likely to return to the scene of the crime. Gemini Venus is detached, cool, friendly, and undemanding. On the other spectrum, Sagittarius Venus is too easy and thinks anyone and anything is game that throws any tiny bit of affection towards them. Gemini Venus doesn't chase, Sagittarius Venus loves chasing others.

[Caro]

thanks for your reply . interesting.

lucky you with all these younger guys.

I have experienced venus in gemini and its detriment with very flirtatuous guys who just lied. two or three relationships at once. They didnt think there was an issue. Maybe not for them but it was for the others involved.

JFK - a high profile example of that. His wife too had venus in gemini.

I guess the negative effects of any rx venus would be determined by their house placings and also aspects. But if someone did not do emotions for instance , then yes those emotional signs might churn up quite a bit which would rather stay buried.

[may28gemini]

Originally Posted by Caro

thanks for your reply . interesting.

lucky you with all these younger guys.

I have experienced venus in gemini and its detriment with very flirtatuous guys who just lied. two or three relationships at once. They didnt think there was an issue. Maybe not for them but it was for the others involved.

JFK - a high profile example of that. His wife too had venus in gemini.

I guess the negative effects of any rx venus would be determined by their house placings and also aspects. But if someone did not do emotions for instance , then yes those emotional signs might churn up quite a bit which would rather stay buried.

i don't consider it lucky to have younger guys go after me since younger guys often are immature and even older guys can be immature too! it just happens to be the luck of the draw for me getting younger guys who have an "old soul" sort of feel to them. i have gemini venus in 9th house... i mean, what do you expect? i'm going to draw some pretty exciting, adventuous, firm bodied types of guys who are talkative! I like that sort anyway!

as for jfk and jackie o, that's a whole new ballgame! for starters, jfk was gemini virgo libra and jackie was leo aries scorpio. jfk was handsome, charming, charismatic, and a beauty worshipper. he couldn't help it giving into beautiful women. jackie was too hard looking and jagged. she probably was too demanding. i don't blame jfk for cheating on her, esp. with marilyn monroe who was really exciting to look at. jackie was a few years younger than marilyn (gemini aquarius leo) but looked 15 years older than marilyn. too bad jackie's gemini venus couldn't have soften her look.

with that in mind, i just want to add something... the planet venus is weak and easily overshadowed or colored by other planets, esp. more domineering ones such as pluto or saturn. even mercury can override venus. in my case, i have mercury conjunct venus. i also have venus trine pluto. i'm not someone who plays the field. i don't lie to others about my intentions and i don't play games with others feelings or their minds (libra pluto likes to be fair and gemini mercury likes being factual). i'm not even a dater and i'm not flirtatious despite having 3 gemini planets and 3 libra planets.
i was once married and i never cheated. cheating doesn't cross my mind because i think it's completely pointless when i can easily just walk away from the person and start something new with someone else. oh wait...that's where the gemini venus comes in!

[Caro]

you are still quite young yourself.

wow that is quite a 'spin' on the JFK story. many see Jackie O as a fashion icon for the late 50's and 60's. she was certainly part of JFK's foreign policy when they travelled abroad. maybe people in the US dont see her in the same light.

as for Marilyn(a sex goddess with neptune in leo in first) - she wasnt the onlly one. from all accounts he just used her. there was I believe a long standing relationships with another woman who was intelligent.

maybe I relate to Jackie here. the wronged woman. but really I was pointing out that they both had venus in gemini but both used this quite differently.

Im not so sure about it being a weak sign. some link it a bit like mars to wars. I believe that might be a traditional view on venus.

[Munch]

Originally Posted by ShadySun

You're correct! Here's a link to my natal chart: http://interactive.0800-horoscope.co...States&lang=en

That's a very good point. I didn't put two and two together. As you can see, I have a stellium in the 11th house, so I guess I'm super affected by Saturn's transit there? I'm not sure if they're being squared or not (still learning each day about aspects and transits). Please let me know!

I must admit that I have difficulty viewing charts of this kind. There isn't a lot of detail.

You have been experiencing Saturn square Saturn though, and this can be a dampener for many people on many levels. It is interesting to note the position of transiting Saturn and to realize that you have begun a new chapter in life (yes, astrology seems to be nothing more than endless beginnings and endings!). When Saturn transits the 11th house, we are moving away from our achievements (MC) and towards the unknown. The 11th house is the house of dreams and goals. This may now very well be the time in which you get to rest and at the same time begin feeling divine discontent. The itch to move on and keep growing starts developing with Saturn here and thus we begin the process of shucking what we no longer need or want by taking stock and seeing if what we have, and who we know are in line with our vision for ourselves. Notice that this square is between your 2nd house (values) and the 11th (dreams/goals and social contacts).

Despite the 11th being a social house, when Saturn is here, we take stock instead of partying and begin to prepare for the descent into the 12th house and the eventual dissolving of ego. Essentially, you are embarking on the Hero's Journey which begins with Saturn at the MC. You are moving into a much more introspective period in your life and I would not expect to be ultra social for some time yet.

[Caro]

Robert Pattinson - venus in gemini.

His Girlfriend Kirsten Stewart has admitted to an affair last year while filming Snow White. ()

http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Robert_Pattinson

http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Kristen_Stewart

her chiron in cancer conj his moon in cancer(which is in 12th house)
her neptune conj his mars. both share the same asc degree in cancer.
She has pluto conj lilith in scorpio.

I thought their image was of a very close couple but can anyone say that they have any connection in their respective charts? To me the astrology says they have NOT. or am I missing something.

Any thoughts? I would say this will really affect him - Kirsten is not as affected by this.

[may28gemini]

Originally Posted by Caro

you are still quite young yourself.

wow that is quite a 'spin' on the JFK story. many see Jackie O as a fashion icon for the late 50's and 60's. she was certainly part of JFK's foreign policy when they travelled abroad. maybe people in the US dont see her in the same light.

as for Marilyn(a sex goddess with neptune in leo in first) - she wasnt the onlly one. from all accounts he just used her. there was I believe a long standing relationships with another woman who was intelligent.

maybe I relate to Jackie here. the wronged woman. but really I was pointing out that they both had venus in gemini but both used this quite differently.

Im not so sure about it being a weak sign. some link it a bit like mars to wars. I believe that might be a traditional view on venus.

perhaps jackie o was a fashion icon, she still had a serious scary austere scorpio looking face. a man like jfk would not like sleeping with that. he would prefer to sleep with more feminine and softer beauties, regardless if he "used" them or not. i don't think there's such thing as "using" anyway, that implies someone is a victim. whether someone admits it or not, they know what they're getting into. jackie o wasn't the "wronged woman" but she really was the wrong woman for jfk. she had long knew he was a womanizer and jfk didn't want to get married to anyone because he didn't want to commit to anyone. how is that such a bad thing? if a woman sleeps with man she knew full well who didn't ever want to marry and she wants to change his mind and make him marry her but then he cheats on her, she's going to go crying? no, that's really retarded. and i think jackie o wasn't retarded like that. she knew what she was getting into and how much she was getting paid. i reject the victim mentality. marilyn wasn't used but because she had neptune in the first house, she probably thought the world made her a victim. the simple fact was, she wanted jfk and he wanted her, that was all there was to it.

i never said gemini venus was/is a weak sign. i said venus the planet is weak and often gets colored or overpowered by other planets, esp. heavy hitters such as saturn and pluto.

[may28gemini]

i wanted to comment on the 11th house. most see the 11th house as just "hopes and dreams" and that is overly simplified. the 11th house is still a succedent house which makes it value resources. 2nd house has rulership over what belongs to man, 5th has rulership over man's creations, 8th has rulership over what belongs to society, and the 11th has rulership over what belongs to god/the divine. that's why jupiter joys in the 11th because it is the house of gains- realized/actualized goals.

[Caro]

Well as if by coincidence Jackie's 'birth date' today.
here is her chart with A rate. She would have been 83.

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/...Kennedy?lang=e

sun/merc in 9th in leo. it has an interesting write up.

SN on scorpio asc. The enduring image of Jackie is the stoical(but forlorn) widow at JFK's funeral with her two young children.
Her decision to marry Onassis was unpopular as the consensus was she should stay as a widow. She needed security - financial!
saturn in 2nd and jupiter in 7th in taurus. NN in taurus in 7th.

[melina]

I have been having a really ****** Venus RX.

Natally, Venus is also in Gemini, 9th house (border of 8th house). It has been absolute **** .... and to make things worse, Venus is RX in Gemini squaring Neptune in my 7th house in my Solar Return as well.

Also, things that happened exactly 8 years ago are repeating ... everything from my knee injury to my encounters with men.

Nobody from my past appeared, but I did contact an ex because the breakup has impacted me in a negative way. I just needed to forgive him, which I did, and now I feel a lot lighter. I reached out to him after 7 months, but I never met him, just sent an e-mail in order to release and let go of my pain ... and of course, I got no response, but I'm ok with that.

[ShadySun]

Originally Posted by Munch

I must admit that I have difficulty viewing charts of this kind. There isn't a lot of detail.

You have been experiencing Saturn square Saturn though, and this can be a dampener for many people on many levels. It is interesting to note the position of transiting Saturn and to realize that you have begun a new chapter in life (yes, astrology seems to be nothing more than endless beginnings and endings!). When Saturn transits the 11th house, we are moving away from our achievements (MC) and towards the unknown. The 11th house is the house of dreams and goals. This may now very well be the time in which you get to rest and at the same time begin feeling divine discontent. The itch to move on and keep growing starts developing with Saturn here and thus we begin the process of shucking what we no longer need or want by taking stock and seeing if what we have, and who we know are in line with our vision for ourselves. Notice that this square is between your 2nd house (values) and the 11th (dreams/goals and social contacts).

Despite the 11th being a social house, when Saturn is here, we take stock instead of partying and begin to prepare for the descent into the 12th house and the eventual dissolving of ego. Essentially, you are embarking on the Hero's Journey which begins with Saturn at the MC. You are moving into a much more introspective period in your life and I would not expect to be ultra social for some time yet.

Thank you! This makes a lot of sense. I do feel much more introspective lately. Once Saturn moves into Scorpio, will it still be squaring my natal Saturn in Cap?

Here's my wheel if that makes it easier:

[Munch]

No. At this point Saturn is no longer square Saturn. This transit did take a while though as Saturn went retrograde a couple of times while in Libra.

If it helps you, try to remember that squares will usually but not always occur within the same modes. So, Cardinal signs square other Cardinals signs, and the same goes for the other two modes.

What will continue to happen for you though, is that Saturn will move into your 12th house and begin the process of dissolving (12th house) the ego which will be reborn again when Saturn (structure and containment) crosses your ascendant and gives form to a new you.

This new you, will spend a great many years rebuilding an identity and building resources again for its eventual re-emergence into the world 'out there (Saturn crossing the ASC/DC axis back up in the upper hemisphere).'

Once Saturn leaves your 1st house, I'd expect to see you getting a little more social again, but like I said, at this point, you are likely be enjoying the fruits of your labors (MC to the 11th house) and beginning to make adjustments towards the descent within.

[ShadySun]

Originally Posted by Munch

No. At this point Saturn is no longer square Saturn. This transit did take a while though as Saturn went retrograde a couple of times while in Libra.

If it helps you, try to remember that squares will usually but not always occur within the same modes. So, Cardinal signs square other Cardinals signs, and the same goes for the other two modes.

What will continue to happen for you though, is that Saturn will move into your 12th house and begin the process of dissolving (12th house) the ego which will be reborn again when Saturn (structure and containment) crosses your ascendant and gives form to a new you.

This new you, will spend a great many years rebuilding an identity and building resources again for its eventual re-emergence into the world 'out there (Saturn crossing the ASC/DC axis back up in the upper hemisphere).'

Once Saturn leaves your 1st house, I'd expect to see you getting a little more social again, but like I said, at this point, you are likely be enjoying the fruits of your labors (MC to the 11th house) and beginning to make adjustments towards the descent within.

Gotcha! That's what I thought about the modes and Squares, but wasn't sure. Thanks so much for your help. I appreciate it, and look forward whatever to every step of this process. It's all very interesting stuff.

Should be an... exciting Fall/birthday season with Mars and Saturn in my 11th house. I'll be back at school, with all my college friends and I'll be acting my first theatre production since high school! I'll need every bit of Mars and Saturn to get myself re-energized and re-disciplined, especially going from high school productions to a college production.