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04-14-2012, 01:58 PM
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Venus Conjunct Ascendant - I don't feel beautiful
Hi! I have venus conjunct ascendant, in 12th house, square midheaven (MH leo), trine saturn, libra is in 12th house and taurus on descendant (house 7th) as scorpio is rising. The thing is I read venus conjunct ascendant adds beauty, while I've never felt beauty and no one has told me I'm beauty nor I've felt that from anyone. Can you guys explain me this aspect a little bit better? Thanks!
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04-14-2012, 03:11 PM
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Re: Venus Conjunct Ascendant - I don't feel beautiful
I assume by beauty you mean, physical beauty. Venus being in the 12th is hidden ... out of sight. Besides Venus is in detriment in Scorpio. That makes Venus weak.
But I feel, 'beauty' is a relative term ... it lies in the eye of the beholder.
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04-14-2012, 03:19 PM
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Re: Venus Conjunct Ascendant - I don't feel beautiful
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Originally Posted by dreamtimez
I assume by beauty you mean, physical beauty. Venus being in the 12th is hidden ... out of sight. Besides Venus is in detriment in Scorpio. That makes Venus weak.
But I feel, 'beauty' is a relative term ... it lies in the eye of the beholder. 
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I agree 100% I have venus conjunct asc 1st leo , I am told I am pretty but when I look in the mirror I see a pale old me! Beauty is definitely subjective, and I am creepy so sometimes I look in the mirror and giggle and feel like a fat panda! You will get further in life being confident, oppose to being labelled as physically 'beautiful'. Those are standards imposed by deranged power hunger industries, whose main goal is to com modify everything including our self worth. Plus I believe Venus conjunct asc, could make you very aware and appreciative of beauty and or have an 'essence of beauty' around you. Like I used to get told 'I look famous', I would be like no sorry just I'm just a nobody:P Now I get diet tips  Which ironically make me hungry.
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04-14-2012, 03:33 PM
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Re: Venus Conjunct Ascendant - I don't feel beautiful
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Originally Posted by Ollie
Hi! I have venus conjunct ascendant, in 12th house, square midheaven (MH leo), trine saturn, libra is in 12th house and taurus on descendant (house 7th) as scorpio is rising. The thing is I read venus conjunct ascendant adds beauty, while I've never felt beauty and no one has told me I'm beauty nor I've felt that from anyone. Can you guys explain me this aspect a little bit better? Thanks!
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Venus is 10 degrees behind and Moon is three degrees ahead. Obviously your appearance will be more driven by Moon in fall.
Further ahead, you have Jupiter/Pluto in first, squared by Mars. You'd be picking up personality influenced by Jupiter/Pluto. Likely to make face oval and kind of obese.
In most of the cases, 2nd house decides your self-awareness. It has Sun and detrimental Mercury, both are squared by Saturn. Affliction of Saturn will make you fell something lacking.
Influence of Venus will be more on spouse, likely to attract beautiful or handsome partner. Although Saturn's influence on partner is to have partner more in age.
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04-14-2012, 03:41 PM
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Re: Venus Conjunct Ascendant - I don't feel beautiful
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Venus is 10 degrees behind and Moon is three degrees ahead. Obviously your appearance will be more driven by Moon in fall.
Further ahead, you have Jupiter/Pluto in first, squared by Mars. You'd be picking up personality influenced by Jupiter/Pluto. Likely to make face oval and kind of obese.
In most of the cases, 2nd house decides your self-awareness. It has Sun and detrimental Mercury, both are squared by Saturn. Affliction of Saturn will make you fell something lacking.
Influence of Venus will be more on spouse, likely to attract beautiful or handsome partner. Although Saturn's influence on partner is to have partner more in age.
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UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUmmmmmm mmmmm what system of astrology are u using? ALSO some of the most physically beautiful people I know, will be like "I'm ok" or "I'm not that great looking" so......... you never know till you see the person, it could be an ailment of self esteem, but I agree with the 12th hidden beauty thing, whatever that means I would need an example but it seems correct from what I know about those aspects. So possibly your own beauty is hidden from yourself? Plus I watched videos of people on youtube with deformities and you go hmm diffrent, then you 'get to know them' and they become 'beautiful' or not. So beauty is way beyond the phyical flesh and I really think that should be made very clear.
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04-14-2012, 03:56 PM
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Re: Venus Conjunct Ascendant - I don't feel beautiful
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Originally Posted by dreamtimez
I assume by beauty you mean, physical beauty. Venus being in the 12th is hidden ... out of sight. Besides Venus is in detriment in Scorpio. That makes Venus weak.
But I feel, 'beauty' is a relative term ... it lies in the eye of the beholder. 
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I really understand that concept, and I think you may be a bit right with the 12th house thing, maybe it's kind of inner beauty thing. The thing is I'm a very shy person and I don't like to open myself to anyone.. So it becomes very difficult to me. Although I do like beauty and art, those are the things that attract me the most. The other thing is Angelina Jolie has venus conjunct ascendant on house 12 too and she's hot, so I really don't know how to take it.
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I agree 100% I have venus conjunct asc 1st leo , I am told I am pretty but when I look in the mirror I see a pale old me! Beauty is definitely subjective, and I am creepy so sometimes I look in the mirror and giggle and feel like a fat panda! You will get further in life being confident, oppose to being labelled as physically 'beautiful'. Those are standards imposed by deranged power hunger industries, whose main goal is to com modify everything including our self worth. Plus I believe Venus conjunct asc, could make you very aware and appreciative of beauty and or have an 'essence of beauty' around you. Like I used to get told 'I look famous', I would be like no sorry just I'm just a nobody:P Now I get diet tips  Which ironically make me hungry.
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Thank you  I'm very appreciative of beauty, that's for sure! And I agree with you, I usually love unconventionally beautiful people and stuff. They've got another kind of charm
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Originally Posted by dhundhun
Venus is 10 degrees behind and Moon is three degrees ahead. Obviously your appearance will be more driven by Moon in fall.
Further ahead, you have Jupiter/Pluto in first, squared by Mars. You'd be picking up personality influenced by Jupiter/Pluto. Likely to make face oval and kind of obese.
In most of the cases, 2nd house decides your self-awareness. It has Sun and detrimental Mercury, both are squared by Saturn. Affliction of Saturn will make you fell something lacking.
Influence of Venus will be more on spouse, likely to attract beautiful or handsome partner. Although Saturn's influence on partner is to have partner more in age.
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I'm skinny as hell!! I'm trying to gain some weight! I do have an oval face though, and I do think my head is moon shaped xD. I'm also tall (6 inches) and the scorpionic influence may tell you other things like dark hair, penetrating eyes and dominating figure. (Scorpio is first decan). I like men though, so do I have to look at Mars for it? Please tell me don't to, my Mars is a disaster :/
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04-14-2012, 06:03 PM
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Re: Venus Conjunct Ascendant - I don't feel beautiful
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I'm skinny as hell!! I'm trying to gain some weight!
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As mentioned, "You'd be picking up personality influenced by Jupiter/Pluto". Make sure not to overdo, because Jupiter is afflicted by Mars.
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04-14-2012, 07:32 PM
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Re: Venus Conjunct Ascendant - I don't feel beautiful
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As mentioned, "You'd be picking up personality influenced by Jupiter/Pluto". Make sure not to overdo, because Jupiter is afflicted by Mars.
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Hey I've got one more question.. Is Venus in Scorpio a bad placement? I've read that it is a BAD placement, but how it'll affect me in my personal life? I think it can't be any more bad since it is in the 12th hous and square Midheaven. My Venus is really terrible, and my Mars as well.
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04-14-2012, 10:40 PM
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Re: Venus Conjunct Ascendant - I don't feel beautiful
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Hey I've got one more question.. Is Venus in Scorpio a bad placement? I've read that it is a BAD placement, but how it'll affect me in my personal life? I think it can't be any more bad since it is in the 12th hous and square Midheaven. My Venus is really terrible, and my Mars as well.
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Is Venus in Scorpio a bad placement? Yes, mostly, makes one jealous and secretive - thereby one lacks reasons and grace.
For you, Saturn is aspecting Venus. So you are likely to meet reliable ones, they'd cover your Venus related problems.
Please remember that Saturn is squaring Sun, thereby those reliable ones will be hurting your ego. But they provide protection to Venus. Because of Saturn's influence, on several planets. there will be a learning curve, delays, etc. in various aspects of life (Jup, Mer, Sun and Ven are aspected by Saturn).
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04-16-2012, 02:50 PM
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Re: Venus Conjunct Ascendant - I don't feel beautiful
I have an opposition there...haha
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05-15-2012, 01:08 PM
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Re: Venus Conjunct Ascendant - I don't feel beautiful
Umm.. about this, I have a nice advice... Beauty is relative. And when you feel ugly, think about someone more worse than you, so we will think better and feel grateful to God. See this picture sis:
And see the reality show called american next top model, they have many faces, even that everyone is not too beautiful, look at them, how they still confidence in any situation. Watch it here: http://watchseries.eu/serie/americas_next_top_model
The show really inspired me..
I have venus in 7th house btw, in aries... hope it helps
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05-15-2012, 01:10 PM
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Re: Venus Conjunct Ascendant - I don't feel beautiful
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Originally Posted by Ollie
Hey I've got one more question.. Is Venus in Scorpio a bad placement? I've read that it is a BAD placement, but how it'll affect me in my personal life? I think it can't be any more bad since it is in the 12th hous and square Midheaven. My Venus is really terrible, and my Mars as well.
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No placement is bad, u must understand it. Venus in scorpio is sexy u know, dark and lusty. That is good
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05-15-2012, 01:18 PM
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Re: Venus Conjunct Ascendant - I don't feel beautiful
i know 2 women and 1 girl who have venus conjunct the ascendant. the women are not necessarily supermodel hot, but they have charm and grace. they are always instantly liked. yes, they are physically beautiful, i think, but here's an aura around their physical presence which is very appealing. neither of them are fully aware of it, though.
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05-15-2012, 11:31 PM
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I don't agree to Venus in Scorpio being bad. It does lend a secretive n lustful nature as it's the aspect of prostitutes but nonetheless they are good at making money. My sis has this too but agreed women get involved with problematic partners who can b abusive. Sis was involved with one but it's luckily over now.
As for Venus conj Asc It cud b bec of the 12th that you don't recognize the beauty but Jolie has the Venus in 12th too so you got something to think bout. B confident n you will spark out anyways.
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