How accurate is foretelling the future?

retinoid · #1 03-30-2012, 04:12 AM

since the future always changes...

Anachiel · #2 03-30-2012, 04:40 AM

Personally, if I have to deliver bad news, I hope that I'm not accurate.

But, I hope, regardless of accuracy, that fore-warning is fore-arming and, in that, a positive change is made. I don;t mean just forecasting doom and gloom. I mean pointing out a more positive, practical alternate path, action or response.

dr. farr · #3 03-30-2012, 04:58 AM

I personally do NOT believe that we can foretell the future!

What, Dr. Farr believes the future cannot be foretold?? Yes, that is correct (except perhaps by a genuine prophet of the Divinity)

However, I absoultely do KNOW that current trends, even of a very subtle, hidden quality, CAN be divined, and thus LIKELY developments and eventualities (results)arising from those trends, can be correctly estimated to a significantly accurate degree (in many cases at least, by experts in this field) This APPEARS to be a foretelling of the future, but it is actually only a determination of where (usually hidden or subtle) current trends will likely eventuate.

Same with "predictions" regarding natal charts: here the natal tendencies and susceptibilities/sensitivities (seeds, so to speak) are divined, and from these, likely eventual developments can be projected, again with a good degree of accuracy in the hands of experts.

But potential trends and developments can be altered IF we know what the trends, susceptibilities, sensitivities ("seeds") truly are and then, knowing this, we take intelligent measures (actions) to modify them; hence I reject determinism and fatalism, although in the real world, the subtle potentials and trends are rarely divined, and effective corrective or modifying measures are even more rarely applied-so, most of the time the trends and susceptibilities develop and happen, giving an appearance (albeit fundamentally a false appearance) of the operation of "fate"...

retinoid · #4 03-30-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dr. farr

I personally do NOT believe that we can foretell the future!

What, Dr. Farr believes the future cannot be foretold?? Yes, that is correct (except perhaps by a genuine prophet of the Divinity)

However, I absoultely do KNOW that current trends, even of a very subtle, hidden quality, CAN be divined, and thus LIKELY developments and eventualities (results)arising from those trends, can be correctly estimated to a significantly accurate degree (in many cases at least, by experts in this field) This APPEARS to be a foretelling of the future, but it is actually only a determination of where (usually hidden or subtle) current trends will likely eventuate.

Same with "predictions" regarding natal charts: here the natal tendencies and susceptibilities/sensitivities (seeds, so to speak) are divined, and from these, likely eventual developments can be projected, again with a good degree of accuracy in the hands of experts.

But potential trends and developments can be altered IF we know what the trends, susceptibilities, sensitivities ("seeds") truly are and then, knowing this, we take intelligent measures (actions) to modify them; hence I reject determinism and fatalism, although in the real world, the subtle potentials and trends are rarely divined, and effective corrective or modifying measures are even more rarely applied-so, most of the time the trends and susceptibilities develop and happen, giving an appearance (albeit fundamentally a false appearance) of the operation of "fate"...

Yes many 'prophets' like Edgar Cayce said that what he sees may not come to pass due to the ability to change the future.

Vagabondgirl · #5 03-30-2012, 01:57 PM

I think its variable... Some things are harder to change in the future than others. Some times I dream something and think that I will try to avoid it from happening or think its so weird that it wont happen, but some time in the future it does. Im not really an active "psychic" so to say.

Think it has something to do with your energy and "vibration" and that you are vibrating in such a way going towards a certain direction on the physical plane. Depends on how effective one is to change ones energies, tendencies, mental thought pattern and so on I guess, to change the future.

I dont think we are just here on the physical plane either. Things that have to do with this physical life might be "coded" somewhere else in some other dimension in space and time. These things are hard to understand with our physical mind/brain. Perhaps time is just not linear at all???

Maybe quantum physics will explain this one sweet day

Vista · #6 03-30-2012, 03:10 PM

Before I could do my own readings I used to have readings from
Robert Hand. A couple things he said to me have always stood out in my mind. The first is "the opposite of a challenging transits is the positive. In other words a positive outcome is still possible but you have to work a little harder to obtain it." I really believe this. The other thing he said is "astrology is never wrong it's all there, he's just interpreting the symbols." THAT'S where the variables exist.

I believe we have several "forks" in the road we can chose from. The other thing I wonder is this, do we really have "free will" or was it in the stars to begin with?? In other words let's we have to make an important decision and later have tremendous relief when we find out if we chose the other route it would have been detrimental to us? Was it "free will" or was it destined to be? Someone who ends up in jail for committing a crime, was it free will or was he destined to be a criminal and was living out that natal promise?

Lastly, in regards to challenging transits: I think we have all stressed about upcoming transits maybe even solar arcs and progressions, but what I find interesting is the eventual outcome. I stressed about transiting Saturn T-Squaring my Sun 10th Moon 4th opposition for 3 months!!! We all know Saturn transits to the Moon can cause depression and since it would hit my Moon for 3 months, I was so worried I didn't even consider other options. You know what happened? I did a short sale on my home(Moon ruling the 4th and placed inside) and moved in with my mother temporarily. While I certainly did not want to do this after 25+ of not living at home, it's all that happened. No depression and obviously I knew the move was going to happen.

Neptune Rising · #7 03-30-2012, 04:57 PM

I paid for a tarot reading yesterday, he tuned more into mediumship though, only a bit on the tarot and he said he cannot tell me the future as its always changing. I was hoping to find something out about the future but the info was useful nonetheless. I personally do believe, as other posters here have mentioned, that you can see current trends, eg, whether the current plan of action is heading to disaster or its in the right track.

I went to a tarot reader once when I had a feeling my job was about to change. I needed to know and those above us were not allowed to tell us. The tarot reading revealed a redundancy coming up shortly which confirmed my feeling, and sure enough, our team was disbanded about a month after. Those lovely 9 and 10 of swords

But I've been considering the fact that everything in life eventually transforms in some way or another. So therefore, the ability to tell the future is somewhat limited and not set in stone.

Interesting question