Charisma

[piscesascendant]

not knowing what their charts look like, I've known quite a few people who others labeled as "charismatic", only for both to hang their heads is shame; as the "charismatic" ones turned out to be two-faced, and the ones who labeled them as such felt ashamed for feeling duped. So be careful what aspects and configurations people agree are "charismatic". There can be too much of a good thing.

[CHRISTINE77]

Originally Posted by piscesascendant

not knowing what their charts look like, I've known quite a few people who others labeled as "charismatic", only for both to hang their heads is shame; as the "charismatic" ones turned out to be two-faced, and the ones who labeled them as such felt ashamed for feel duped. So be careful what aspects and configurations people agree are "charismatic". There can be too much of a good thing.

I totally agree. Still waters run deep.

[astropsychologist]

I don't think Ive ever found Libra to be charismatic unless the chart also has a good deal of Scorpio, instead I find the typical Libran to be attractive and "nice" but lacking in sex appeal.
The most charismatic person I have ever met was a man with Scorpio Sun, Scorpio Moon and Leo rising.....he was dangerously charming, a lady killer and always the life and soul of the party. But of course being a double Taurus myself....I may be a bit biased towards a double Scorpio! ;-)

[Elyn]

I knew a virgo guy who seemed like the incarnation of charisma. He had a venus in Libra and moon in libra. Not to mention 4 planets in libra. His venus in libra was in the 2nd house -he definitely seemed to profit by it at work and in his daily life. Everything seemed to be easier for him. he had an infectious smile. On top of that, he had a smooth energy. He had mars in taurus but also mercury in virgo. He could write the most beautiful things. I have rarely met someone who could write so well. - he always found the right words for eveything.

I have always wondered how some people just got so much attention.

I have saturn very close to my ascendant in the first house. I am certainly NOT an easy going charismatic person, or happy go lucky. However I do have a mysterious side (scorpio ascendant, and strong pluto). Pisces sun. I find these two water signs blend well. and venus and mars in aries conjunct in 5th help me deflect this kind of negative/morbid/dark look created my my ascendant and saturn. I feel also that the scorpio ascendant for a woman may come on too strong. I feel a scorpio ascendant in a man may be more attractive than in a woman.

[BobZemco]

For fun you can look for the Fixed Star Vega at 15° Cap 28' People who have Mercury or Venus conjunct Vega tend to be very charismatic.

[Veronica]

I know a virgo person with moon in libra, venus in libra, mars in libra, charismatic, talk a lot great great sense of humor.

[Ebenia]

Also aspects between Jupiter and Pluto indicate charisma. Squares could be a little bit too much of course.

[robots]

One of my friends has Aries ASC, along with a 6th house Libra Venus, 5th house Virgo Mercury (conj Sun and Jupiter), and 3rd house Gemini Mars trine ASC. He also has an Aquarius moon, which I usually find to be an awesome placement.
I'm so jealous of his chart. Haha. He's extremely charismatic and can communicate with just about anyone with ease. He's also able to talk his way out of basically any situation.
One time we couldn't find a parking spot near an art gallery so we parked near a store that sold sound systems and at-home movie theaters and such, so we ended up having to go into the store. He talked to the owner for 30 minutes about a sound system he supposedly wanted to get. Everything he said was completely made up, but he was easily able to keep up a conversation with the owner.

I like to think I'm charismatic at times, but not to that extent. I have a 5th house Sagittarius Mercury trine my 8th house Aquarius Venus, Moon, and Saturn. Hopefully that makes me at least somewhat charismatic. Haha.

[astropawn]

my boyfriend has venus in first house in acquarius and he is such a darling. He also has Sun and mercury in venus in 1st, ruler of 5th (Gemini) in first. He is a teacher, very intelligent and convincing. He can get all kinds of people to like him so easily when he is in a good mood and not being overly nervous...

A counter-example is myself, with difficult position of Venus in a t-square with saturn, pluto and moon. Venus conjuncts mercury in late Capricorn in 6th, which squares both pluto and Saturn (late libra and early scorpio) (4th), at the same time, oppose my 12th moon in Cancer. I never find it easy to convince other people, (or having a hopeless belief of myself inable to convince others) and I am often being wrongly accused for things i didnt do, especially by authorities, somehow... I am not good at debate at all unless I am thoroughly prepared for it... However, having jupiter sextile venus and trine moon helps alot. I never lose my positive attitude even in the darkest days of my life.

I also have my sun in 5th house, which is the ruler of my 1st. I am a pretty spontaneous person, has a good sense of humor when I don't suffer from esteem issues. People around me generally and geniunely like me.

Overall, i find myself very volatile. Whether I am charismatic or not entirely depends on my venus and moon. There are times in which I am extremely popular and charismatic, but when my venus and moon gets afflicted, I just could not shine anymore...

[SpadeCharade]

One of the most charming and charismatic people I know has a Mercury, Venus, Pluto all conjuct in Scorpio and an Eros in Scorpio as well. She's a Libra.

[Marmoteo]

Hi there, this is my first post

I guess there is something missing here : the sun position.

lots have been told about scorpions and Pluto .. okay it can show a charismatic person, but a kind "dark" charisma.

I guess, there is also the "lighting" charisma which fit to sun/leo value. Typically, these are people that shine and want to shine. sunny people

The position which strongly indicate this type of charisma is the sun dominant : sun conjunct to ascendant/in first house :

These people make a strong personal impression. Others tend to see them as confident people, or as leaders of some sort. This is because they project strength. Of course, this strong impression can rub some people the wrong way. These people are noticeable and very aware of how they come across to others. Sun rising people tend to believe that they are in control of their destiny. They usually don't believe in fate, and they'll take any pessimistic comments that come their way as personal challenges. In fact, this concept extends to other areas of life--they prefer to lead rather than follow, and are usually most comfortable in situations where they have the freedom to do so. They identify strongly with the image they project, and they usually prefer to be viewed as capable individuals. Children with this aspect may appear to be older than their years. (from cafe astrology)


Another good reference about this placement (but in French) : http://www.andrebarbault.com/soleil_ascendant.htm
=> psychology and example of famous people with this placement (mao tse tung, Roman emperor, and more !)



For me, sunny people are the "pure" charismatic type !


another thing I found important for charisma is the mars venus aspect. A strong aspect (conjunction and square especially) between this 2 usually indicate quite good looking people with passionate nature !

[vickymadness]

what about :

Sun Conjunct mercury in Aries.
ASC in Aquarius.
My venus is in Taurus in the 3rd house.
My pluto conjunct MC in Scorpio
My pluto trine Jupiter
My venus square my ascendant
My venus opposite pluto
My venus conjunct moon
My venus square jupiter
My Sun trine jupiter
Venus square ASC
Moon trine ASC
Jupiter opposite ASC ( jupiter in leo )
any charisma ?

[vickymadness]

lol now I realized how old this post is !

I love how it started in 2005 , and still people are posting till now