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03-22-2012, 01:46 PM
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Turning Squares into Diamonds
What is the tightest you have in your chart and how do you handle it?
Mine is Mars  Ceres. (0º1') Don't know much about Ceres but my next tightest is Saturn  Venus. (0º5') I just have to be sure that I am actively showing my love for people and allowing myself to see the different ways that people show their love for me. :-)
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03-22-2012, 03:06 PM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
Sun (Aries) squares Saturn (Capricorn).
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03-22-2012, 03:24 PM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
I do like the title you have given this thread.
not sure that we could count in the asteriods. but mine is ceres  chiron.
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03-22-2012, 03:41 PM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
I only have one square within my planets..... which is Mars square Pluto, but it is pretty loose at -8...
Why, yes, I was ordered by court to take anger management when I was younger!
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03-22-2012, 04:16 PM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
I have so many squares its not even funny.
Counting asteroids, its Mars  Chiron at -0°43
Not counting asteroids, Mercury  Uranus at -1°12.
"Mercury square Chiron
You might resist unconventional methods of health care despite a need for personal healing. You might even actively oppose those who attempt to introduce you to these possibilities." -This one is kind of true.
Mercury square Uranus
"You have a quick and restless mind. You may have many unusual or unorthodox ideas, but could be reluctant to communicate them openly. You might feel a sense of dilemma in the matter of how much of your unconventionality you dare to reveal. Your insights and ideas can be brilliant and very original, but you may feel they aren't really heard or accepted..."
[deleted quote over 100 words against forum rules - Moderator From: http://members.wizzards.net/~magyan/..._Aspects.html]
-This one is VERY true. I almost never voice my opinions or ideas because I just don't think anyone listens to me. And sometimes I don't want to be seen as weird. lol
In total, I think I have 14 squares ranging from -7 to +9 degrees.
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03-22-2012, 04:18 PM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
I have two squares: Mars square Pluto, and Venus square Pluto. (Actually my mistake, i also have sqaures between my MC and Moon,Jupiter and Mercury.. but there a -6 degree difference)
Of all the aspects, mars is the tightest square with a 3 degree difference. I have no idea how i handle this.. to be honest i don't really understand where they come into play with my life, but i would say i release all that energy(mars) through 'losing' myself(Pluto) into music.
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03-22-2012, 10:53 PM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
Just to address the question in your message title:
Squares indicate a condition of challenge and tension. Consequently, people can do really well with them if they can use the squares constructively in some sort of positive achievement. Squares often indicate people's careers because the person is challenged ongoingly to improve the situation. This works well in a career ladder climbing situation.
With any square, just get a good sense for the core meaning of the planetary pair. Then work on it as though it were a trine.
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03-23-2012, 02:17 AM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
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With any square, just get a good sense for the core meaning of the planetary pair. Then work on it as though it were a trine.
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I LOVE this. I like what the Huber's say in that squares are neither good nor bad. They refer to them as "achievement squares."  Which goes right along with career options. :-)
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03-23-2012, 10:50 AM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
Mars in Scorpio, 1st square Saturn in Aquarius, 4th. That's the strongest square I have in my chart, and thankfully the only one (although it just had to be between the malefics). Glad it's a sinister square though, since I think it lessens the damage both malefics are doing. Which conveniently my Mars is the dominant in this stand-off and a good thing too, considering Mars is the most dignified planet in my chart.
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06-02-2012, 03:56 PM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
Heh, I just replied to someone on my blog post called The Alchemy of Turning a Square Into Trines http://blog.virgovault.com/2010/12/2...into-triangles and decided to do a search to see if anyone else had written about it yet (nope!). In this post I talk about how to access the Diamond Mine of Trines. :-)
Have you had a chance to read my article?
Back then, I was reading a lot of 'explanations' but no 'solutions'. So I wrote my own, and it helped me a lot.
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06-02-2012, 04:00 PM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
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I LOVE this. I like what the Huber's say in that squares are neither good nor bad. They refer to them as "achievement squares."  Which goes right along with career options. :-)
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That makes sense to me: "achievement squares" and "career options"! Squares motivate (but also frustrate).
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06-02-2012, 04:02 PM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
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With any square, just get a good sense for the core meaning of the planetary pair. Then work on it as though it were a trine.
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Yes, that's a great solution too!!
"Fake it until you make it!"
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06-02-2012, 04:04 PM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
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I have no idea how i handle this.. to be honest i don't really understand where they come into play with my life, but i would say i release all that energy(mars) through 'losing' myself(Pluto) into music.
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"Losing yourself" and "music" sounds Neptunian and Piscean! :-)
I wrote a post about Mars Square Pluto, from a sexual angle. ;-)
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06-02-2012, 04:36 PM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
Exact Saturn/Jupiter conjunction square Sun/Merc conjunction from Asc to IC.
My whole square has been about full and careful development. Maturation has been a much slower but very thorough process for me.
Lately I've been dealing more with issues of authority and personal power. Probably because I have T. Pluto square the Saturn/Jupiter conjunction in my natal chart and T. Saturn is conjunct and retrograde repeatedly over my natal Pluto/POF conjunction (on Spica).
I have a ton of squares but feel my chart is extremely fortunate. I've noted that while a slew of 'unfortunate' scenarios and circumstances have plagued my life, I have somehow walked through it mostly untouched by the fires.
For instance, I have been homeless on the streets of LA/Hollywood. Sure I was victimized, but never catastrophically. There's always been a guiding/protecting force in my life that pulls me away from any real imminent threats.
I have Libra rising, so my Saturn rising is strongly dignified and tied closely to my Venus because rules Libra and is in mutual reception with Jupiter, which of course is also rising conjunct Saturn.
Lots of hard lessons and knocks, but just enough cushion that my falls have never actually broken me. I've certainly felt broken and defeated before, but I never actually have been.
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06-02-2012, 04:46 PM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
I have a similar thread with no answers
But about synastry
I have a T square with focus to the fifth house. Used to be relationships where the trouble. Now, my creative self expression. And Ithink later, that will be children  .
So actually, I don't handle it well, I'm just always involved with people who have a planet in the opposite, they release my stress with a grand cross
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06-02-2012, 05:04 PM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
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I have a similar thread with no answers
But about synastry
I have a T square with focus to the fifth house. Used to be relationships where the trouble. Now, my creative self expression. And Ithink later, that will be children  .
So actually, I don't handle it well, I'm just always involved with people who have a planet in the opposite, they release my stress with a grand cross 
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Where is your thread??? I'll answer!
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06-02-2012, 05:24 PM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
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Where is your thread??? I'll answer!
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It's under the name "how to handle hard aspects in synastry".
I admit, not so catchy title like this thread
Thanks!!
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06-03-2012, 07:31 PM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
My tightest square is chiron/merc (conj. mars). And communication is very important in this life for me. Because my merc is conj mars....the communication can sometimes have a ton of energy behind it (also a sag sun). So the lesson for me is to not only be able to be direct, but to also temper or be sensitive to the energy with which I convey the message.
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06-03-2012, 10:56 PM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
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I admit, not so catchy title like this thread 
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When you're looking for a 'catchy title', I'll help you out or SerpentariusGMS and I can put our heads together. ;-) http://blog.virgovault.com/2010/12/2...into-triangles
Quotes taken from this article:
"A Square turned on its side makes a DIAMOND! The moral of the picture is to look at things differently."
"The Square is a HIGHER FORM of the Trine. The Trine is wrapped in a constricting and protective Saturnian box. Imagine the gift, the power contained within. The Trine is lazy; the Square tense. The Trine privileged; the Square tested. Should you choose to accept, your mission is to blast the box off the Square to get to the Diamond Mine of Trines. Think Indiana Jones!!  Think Zen Warrior! Only those who can harness the power of a Square (Pandora’s Box) will succeed in receiving more gifts than one Trine bestows."
Click on the link. I've supplied illustrations to explain how to turn squares into diamonds as well as help on how to overcome them. http://blog.virgovault.com/2010/12/2...nto-triangles/
I call most of what I come up with: Chart Reading Tricks.
I haven't written an astrology book yet, but I will. ;-)
However, I have published a tarot book.
I've got Gemini on the 5th and 6th house cusp with a Virgo stellium in the 8th, and Jupiter (not aspected) Uranus in the 9th (Libra).
I'm all over the dang place. ;-P
Hope this helps.
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06-04-2012, 01:45 AM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
My tightest is Sun square Pluto..all I know about is orbs, can anyone tell me how to translate an orb of .41 to something that looks like " -0°43 "
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10-17-2012, 07:43 PM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
I have sun venus conjunction square moon jupiter pluto conjunction
I am not sure but I could have a contra parallel sun venus conj to pluto
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10-19-2012, 04:33 AM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
I have 7 squares and most of them involve Mars (on the ascendant) - tightly square MC, Sun, Moon, Mercury and Jupiter all at the top of my chart so career achievements are extremely important to me.
I also have Pluto square Sun and Uranus square Venus.
I am blessed with an enormous amount of drive and motivation and I like to lead. I thrive on problems and I am born problem solver.
But, I frustrate people because things don't generally go fast enough for me. People frustrate me because they're not generally fast enough for me.
I would not trade these squares for trines or sextiles.
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10-20-2012, 06:13 PM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
Tightest is sun libra square mars cancer, I am irritable if I am not actively trying to achieve something, but being a libra my lazy languid side that loves to lie on the couch and think, unfortunately fuels this.
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10-20-2012, 06:41 PM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
I'm still new to astrology, but I think, squares are not all the same, some are difficult and some easy.
I have 2 or 3 squares in my chart. Moon-Neptune square causes problems in my life and I hate Neptune, it makes me too passive.
Mercury square Uranus/Pluto is in my case not a bad aspects and I'm not sure, if having a trine or a sextile would be any better. It doesn't feel tense like a square.
Moon-Neptune is a fixed square, Mercury-Uranus/Pluto a mutable, could that be the reason?
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10-20-2012, 07:53 PM
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Re: Turning Squares into Diamonds
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I LOVE this. I like what the Huber's say in that squares are neither good nor bad. They refer to them as "achievement squares."  Which goes right along with career options. :-)
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I have squares all over, beginning from Sun-Moon (6°) to Sun-Mars (6°), Sun-Saturn (10°), Moon-Neptune (5°), Moon-MC (8°), Moon-BML.
My life is fraught with conflicts. I have to struggle very hard for everything. I am also short-tempered but hard-working & very ambitious. Most importantly I've learnt the only way for me to LIVE is to sacrifice my emotional needs to NIL.
I've learnt being intellectual would get me further than otherwise. I don't know what it means in terms of Career esp MC-Moon does worry me.
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