Will I have to pay this back?

[Neptune Rising]

Hi

I have a 15 year old debt. At the time, I was young when I took out a loan, got into trouble and couldn't pay back so decided to run away from it. Every now and then, an agency finds me and sends a correspondence asking me to contact them. This one scares me a bit as its just round the corner from where I live. I thought that after 7 years, debts are written off. I will seek some advice when I get the chance. Perhaps I should become a banker and amass a £zillion debt, then it would be 'written off

I asked a horary, "will I have to pay this back?"

I am Jupiter
Debt I think may be 8th house? - Moon
My Money is Saturn and so is 3rd house.

I got the letter today.

North Node is near the ascendant in the 12th house.

Fortuna is in 1st/2nd cusp.

Moon first forms an opposition to Mars. Mars rules 12th 11th and 4th houses, sits in the 9th house of legal matters. This Mars has recently trined Jupiter. I don't know what this is.

Mars is in Jupiters detriment, they don't like me. Jupiter is also in Mars detriment, feeling is mutual.

Moon and Mars have a mutual reception.

Does that Moon opp Mars mean they will come to my home?

Mercury is the 'other', 7th house, retro in the 3rd house, in mutual reception by sign with Mars. That seems quite significant. This retro is something from the past, both planets are rx. I wonder if Mars is them, or Mercury? Merc also rules 9th house of their correspondance and my legal issues. Merc will however shortly be combust the Sun, just out of sign just now.

Also Mars is square the nodes. Not liking that aspect at all, makes Mars seem like a mean planet here. But Moon squares nodes while it opposes Mars. That also makes me worry a bit.

Jupiter is also almost exactly trining fortuna. This is diposited by Saturn which rules my 2nd house. That may be favourable to me.

Maybe the fact that Mercury is quite bad shape, nearly combust and retrograde, they are trying their luck. Perhaps they are a rogue agency with no right to threaten me and no legal rights.

Jupiter for the rest of Taurus isn't doing much else, no aspects to be made.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this chart?

Thanks for looking



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[MaeMae]

pof in 1st conjunct pluto an NN in 12th tells me that you will continue to evade them.
pluto ruler of 12th ~ great sneak potential.
i didn't even know a debt could be collected after 7 years without a judgement.
investigate the co. who "bought" the debt and are trying to collect from you.
is it still on your credit report after 15 years?!
if it's a fed student loan, you're ratfu*ked ~ at least until they work out a deal or grant amnesty.
Anyway ~ evasion works for now.

[Neptune Rising]

Originally Posted by MaeMae

pof in 1st conjunct pluto an NN in 12th tells me that you will continue to evade them.
pluto ruler of 12th ~ great sneak potential.
i didn't even know a debt could be collected after 7 years without a judgement.
investigate the co. who "bought" the debt and are trying to collect from you.
is it still on your credit report after 15 years?!
if it's a fed student loan, you're ratfu*ked ~ at least until they work out a deal or grant amnesty.
Anyway ~ evasion works for now.

Thanks for replying MaeMae!

I don't know what the laws are in the US, but I too thought after 7 years it couldn't be collected. I will research this firm. A different firm contacted me a year and a half ago, I emailed them back asking for the original amount outstanding but they never responded. I have been blacklisted for those 7 years, but have since taken and paid back another loan, I have a credit card (I took to build up my credit rating). I have quite good credit now which is where they may have found my address details. It wasn't a student loan, it was a bank loan.

Thanks for the advice, I will keep evading them at least until I know where I stand legally with this 7 years thing.

NR

[JerryRR]

Cat and Mouse at the moment.
Matters might become clearer in the fall.
Suggest you grab the bull by the horns and try to resolve this asap,as this may affect health (Tau/Sco).
Suggest you speak to CAB and the Debt Support Trust.
They may suggest bankruptcy or negotiate an IVA.

Good Luck.
J.R.

[Neptune Rising]

Originally Posted by JerryRR

Cat and Mouse at the moment.
Matters might become clearer in the fall.
Suggest you grab the bull by the horns and try to resolve this asap,as this may affect health (Tau/Sco).
Suggest you speak to CAB and the Debt Support Trust.
They may suggest bankruptcy or negotiate an IVA.

Good Luck.
J.R.

Thanks for replying Jerry!

I forgot to mention, this chart is exactly the same degree rising, nadir ect as my natal chart.

I will speak to CAB. Worried about bankrupcy as I've only just started working for myself. But ah well, Pluto is squaring my natal 9th house Pluto, some things just have to happen whether I want them to or not.

I was wondering why this may affect my health in the chart? I was also worried that I'd have to move house because of this, in case they come to the house and freak out my landlord. Could that Taurus/Scorpio suggest that this may affect my work too? - 6th/10th ruled by Venus?

NR

[JerryRR]

Hi NR,
If money is a form of energy,this debt may be detrimental to your well-being?(Mind Body Spirit) Draco Sun in Taurus.
May I ask if you have experienced any ill health recently?I am not asking for the details,as it is none of my buisness.If you have,this may provide some clues?
You mentioned PL/PL,this may bring crisis,which may work in your favour.I believe the word crisis,comes from the Greek Krisis,to decide.

There may be someone in your life that has some kind of hold over you that may be giving you the wrong advice? (a power thing) If you have started your own business,an Individual Volantary Agreement may be a solution.

Take care.
J.R.

[Neptune Rising]

Hi Jerry

Thanks again, your insight is really making me think.

I have had ill health, its been more my own structural health being brought to my awareness though my yoga teaching. A kind of personal crisis which has forced me to study anatomy related to yoga indepth and change the way I practice and teach. I was also worried about having to pay this back (if I don't have to) which would make it harder to pay for the yoga therapy course that I have my mind on.

I know what you mean about money being energy, it would be nice to settle this and finally get it off my back.

There is someone in my life, been giving me advice, as you say. I am curious where that is in the chart? I do suspect there is a power thing involved but not sure of the way out. It involves my work too. I have followed their advice at first, but realised its not in line with my ultimate path. Though, the energy is still there. I guess this may be part of the Pluto square Pluto period of empowerment.

Interesting about the Greek, Krisis, a new way of seeing this transit as it certainly seems like chaos at the moment

I will look into the IVA though, thanks for the suggestion

Thanks again
NR