How we will all be spied upon by CIA and others

[Monk]

Hi Waybread,

Loved the fictional drama however Tea Party is connected to Republican Party, and although disputed, a lot of people think it's genesis was "Under the Oaks in Jackson on 6th July 1854".

http://jacksonrepublicans.com/

Nice, Alnilam rises with Sun, graph on attachment, you may have to left click on image several times to make larger.

[Monk]

Hi JupiterAsc,

Yes, what happened to many of the Kennedy clan is somewhat spooky, so lets move sideways. There have been four Presidents that have been assassinated in office.

Abraham Lincoln, James A. Garfield, William McKinley, and John F. Kennedy.

I would add Ronald Reagan, shot but survived.

Three of the above have links to Alnilam or Sirius on day of death or time of death.

I would look for strange religious associations, like Charles Guiteau, assassin of James A. Garfield, and Leon Czolgosz, assassin of William McKinley had both at different times been members of Oneida Community, link below, please scroll down to "Legacy":-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneida_Community

[Monk]

Most links show that Lincoln was assassinated on auspicious Good Friday at 10:15pm 14th April 1865, please look to right on link to find 10:15pm:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassi...braham_Lincoln

Other link below:-

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-h...incoln-is-shot

AT THIS TIME AT DATE AND LOCATION, SIRIUS WAS SETTING ALONG HORIZON IN WEST. Link below, you will find chart on second page:-

http://www.mauricefernandez.com/phpb...t=2094&start=0

[Monk]

James A. Garfield was shot on 2nd July 1881 in Washington DC, although he died of his injuries eleven weeks later, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassi...es_A._Garfield

Actual time is sometimes used, but usaully day markers are used with religious assassinations, obviously this is easier.

Graph below showing that Midnight day marker was used, both Sun and Sirius are aligned to the Nadir angle, you may have to left click on image on attachment several times to make clearer and larger:-

[Monk]

Strangely John F. Kennedy wasn't aligned to Sirius or Alnilam on day of death, however his gravesite is by The John F. Kennedy Eternal Flame in Washington DC, consecrated on March 15th 1967, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F...._Eternal_Flame

Ancient Greek Day marker at sunset, while Alnilam, Osiris star is culminating in middle of sky, graph on attachment, you may have to left click on image several times to make larger and clearer:-

Shall we look at Ronald Reagan attempt?

[Monk]

Hi Zonark,

If you are worried who is looking down on you, that would be National Geospatial-Intelligence agency, established on 1st October 1996, before 2011, its H.Q. was in Bethesda, Maryland, which is why i used that location as a fix, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...ligence_Agency

Egyptian sunrise day marker used, while Sirius culminates in centre of sky, very nice!

Graph on link below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/...3913&mode=view

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by waybread

JA, sorry-- sometimes my sense of humour is too dry for other people to appreciate.

This joke hopefully you can appreciate. "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean people are not following you. "

Too dry

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by Monk

Hi JupiterAsc,

Yes, what happened to many of the Kennedy clan is somewhat spooky, so lets move sideways. There have been four Presidents that have been assassinated in office.

Abraham Lincoln, James A. Garfield, William McKinley, and John F. Kennedy.
I would add Ronald Reagan, shot but survived.

Three of the above have links to Alnilam or Sirius on day of death or time of death.

I would look for strange religious associations, like Charles Guiteau, assassin of James A. Garfield, and Leon Czolgosz, assassin of William McKinley had both at different times been members of Oneida Community, link below, please scroll down to "Legacy":-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneida_Community

Ronald Reagan's recollections of the event are at this http://www.newsrealblog.com/2011/01/...-presidency/3/

(no doubt one of many on the subject) link

[Monk]

Hi JupiterAsc,

Obviously i will come back to Ronald Reagan!

Interesting isn't it that National Geospatial-intelligence Agency was formed on 1st October 1996.......Defense Intelligence Agency was formed on 1st October 1961, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense...ligence_Agency

In early years controlled by Pentagon and Washington DC.

Same alignment, Sun rises, Sirius in middle of Sky, lovely, nice to have mystery cults running everything without voters knowledge isn't it?

Graph on link:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/...3958&mode=view

[Monk]

Here is a little gem, please scroll down link to "Creation of National Clandestine Service", fourth paragraph down and quote:- "The C.I.A. announced the creation of the National Clandestine Service in a press release on October 13th 2005".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...estine_Service

Mystery cults love to leave puzzles to important days to them, and 13th October is highly auspicious, relating to the arrest of Templar Jacques de Molay on Friday 13th October 1307.

http://www.coolquiz.com/trivia/expla...s/friday13.asp

The statement may have come from Washington D.C. or McLean, Virginia, nearest town to C.I.A, in truth these locations are very near each other, so both show the same alignment using 1 degree margin, equal to 4 minutes of time, it shows ancient Greek day Marker was used being sunset of previous day, while Sirius was on the Nadir.

You might want to look up The White House construction date, however that was a different alignment because local time was used then, plus we didn't use Summer Time, but still aligned to Sirius at midnight day marker!

Graph on link:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/...3918&mode=view

[JUPITERASC]

Monk, the concept of an OFFICIAL "National Clandestine Service" is inspired Orwellian 1984 "double-think" IMO

btw, now Siriusly researching re: the usual suspects

[Monk]

Thoth/thout, pagan god rules it seems with another auspicious date being Groundbreaking of Pentagon on 11th September 1941, links below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thout

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon

To be within rules of mystery cults, and using tight orbs, alignment should have been sunset of previous day, or ON DAY BUT AFTER SUNSET with Pentagon Ground-Breaking Ceremony, whatever it is highly suspicious!

As Sun set on actual day, Alnilam, Osiris star was aligned to Nadir angle, graph on link:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/...3889&mode=view

Feeling lonely now, will not anyone play with me?. American Bible Belt will really love this ha ha!

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by Monk

Thoth/thout, pagan god rules it seems with another auspicious date being Groundbreaking of Pentagon on 11th September 1941, links below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thout

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon

To be within rules of mystery cults, and using tight orbs, alignment should have been sunset of previous day, or ON DAY BUT AFTER SUNSET with Pentagon Ground-Breaking Ceremony, whatever it is highly suspicious!

As Sun set on actual day, Alnilam, Osiris star was aligned to Nadir angle, graph on link:-

http://2012.com/forum/download/file....3889&mode=view

Feeling lonely now, will not anyone play with me?. American Bible Belt will really love this ha ha!

When clicking on the above link to the 2012 forum Monk, an error message appears - hackers presumably?

I have nevertheless managed to access the site via other links you previously posted and read some of the intriguing content - which is voluminous I may add - takes some time to process it all

Speaking of Time - here's a link to the "10,000 year Clock" site http://www.10000yearclock.net/learnmore.html

[Monk]

Nice to have the company of my buddy JupiterAsc, however he has his own very good brain and will tear a strip out of me if he finds fault, and so he should!

The United States Special Operations Command has a H.Q in MacDill Airforce Base in Tampa, Florida, and become active on 16th April 1987...midnight day marker, look to the West on horizon ha ha!

Graph on link:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/...3965&mode=view

Link to date and location below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...ations_Command

[Monk]

Hi JupiterAsc,

Yes i did have trouble with Pentagon Graph, but i think i put it right, i'll put it in again, tell me if it now works:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/...3889&mode=view

Edited it so hopefully now working!

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by Monk

Hi JupiterAsc,

Yes i did have trouble with Pentagon Graph, but i think i put it right, i'll put it in again, tell me if it now works:-

http://2012.com/forum/download/file....3889&mode=view

not working Monk, the error message appears!

[JUPITERASC]

Good news! The Pentagon link is suddenly working now and the chart is plainly in view! Many thanks Monk

[Monk]

Great JupiterAsc,

Probably my fault, i'm getting tired, i have a lot wrong in health, no matter!

So although the C.I.A was started in Washington D.C. it got lovely new H.Q. later, actually dedicated by J.F.K.

Nearest town is below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLean,_Virginia

Please scroll down link below to "The C.I.A. after the Bay of Pigs", several paragraphs down you will find "On November 28th 1961, John F. Kennedy went to Langley/McLean, Virginia to dedicate the C.I.A. new H.Q."

http://www.jfk-online.com/jfkdullescia.html

Egyptian sunrise day marker used, as Sun rose, Alnilam was setting, graph on link below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/...3912&mode=view

Getting tired last post today, wait, if links don't work i will edit soon!

[Monk]

Hi JupiterAsc,

Please note that all esoteric religion has been active by electional astrology in mundane astrology....wish it was different, so who is god...don't ask me...infiltration of how we value the stars, has always been there...it is very difficult to say!

But we can plot electional astrology!

I have no idea what 06/06/2006 means really but please note link below, please note i'm moderate...esoteric religious alignments are not to be trusted, I will not say that Sirius is the Devil, no idea, so infiltrated by esoteric religion/electional astrology through the ages.

Link below, please note i'm moderate, but have no idea how Sirius works, because of so much ******* mundane electional astrology!

6th June 2006 in Los Angeles, link below:-

Graphs will be added later, link:-

http://www.churchofsatan.com/Pages/666SHighMass.html

It is easy to show paran alignments to date, location, and Sun parans, i'll show on next thread section...above is sunset....however all religions use esoteric electional astrology...religion is big power....perhaps some brave astrologer will show alignments on the above at sunset at location on 5th June 2006?

Please note Mundane astrology has religious electional involvement, great to see it, but leads us into very interesting area!

Obviously on 5th June 2006 in Los Angeles, by accurate paran at sunset, Sirius set with Sun in Los Angeles...but all religions in private seek alignments to Sirius...waiting for reply, but my next post will show alignment!

[Monk]

Before we start, as everyone usaully brings in music with astrology, lets show differently, please note i hate satanist concepts, understand religious concepts shown in history...but hey i'm against, but show music...but don't think i like it, oops satanist music!

http://www.roadburn.com/2011/12/mond...o-the-sabbath/

My acid humour will be understood by JupiterAsc with electional religious astrology through the ages!

Oops you are still waiting for accurate alignments regarding Sirius, on 06/06/06....sunset previous regarding Los Angeles!

[Monk]

Ha Ha, members are studying...who ever thought of Black Widow in Music, they don't want to respond....they know i will just change it to Led Zep!

Big impact on music and strange religious calcalations, related to Beijing Olympics ha ha!

[Culpeper]

This pervasive surveillance is happening and is getting worse. We can hardly call this country free any more. A super computer is certainly examining every word I write even now. When I lived in California there were even police helicopters hovering overhead.

The Blade had a political cartoon about it recently. In it cartoon peaple are shown in Toledo as if on CCTV saying: "So cops want more cameras. Aren't there enough surveillance cameras already? We're on camera when we're in stores... when we're leaving stores... on the sidewalk...driving our cars...in parking lots...you can't walk 20 feet in this town without being on camera. Why do we need more?..". by Kirk, 28 March 2012.

That is just the local surveillance. The NSA is working on a bigger project that will check out every word you write on line or speak on telephone: http://wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/

It is often said that the Republic is really controlled by the National Security State. Once this was called the Military Industrial Complex. This shadow government may well rule by intimidation, secrecy and assassination. Here is a link: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php...Security_State

[Zonark]

Originally Posted by Monk

Hi Zonark,

i wouldn't worry too much over Opus Dei, the masonic christianity link was made by Jesuits, i wouldn't trust that either by Exposcit Debitum, on 21st July 1550 in Rome, nice Sirius rises with Sun, very Egyptian.

I do have problems due to hacking but have been able to save pictures on link about "Counter Reformation", link below:-

http://wintertriangle.org/?page_id=85

This is all very much for me to digest Monk and I hope you do not feel slighted by my lack of speed in addressing your intriguing research! So much to do, you know how it is.

Amazing the diversity of the counter reformation movements. I'd be most interested to see the natal chart of Saint Ignatius himself and what influence Sirius had in it, if any. The Sun rising in Pisces on the founding of the Discalced Carmelite order of nuns... most curious that they are nicknamed the 'barefoot nuns' what with Pisces ruling the feet

Opus Dei is the Jesuit order for householders and has significant involvement in the worldly sphere, as much if not much moreso than the Jesuits due to householders composing its membership.

I'm sure you are aware of U.S. Republican party nomination hopefuls Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich's connections to Opus Dei? They are zealots, radicals and have become sick with dogmaticism divorced from all rationale. I don't mean those two when I say that either, I am referring to the general Opus membership, they are run the same as the Jesuits with principals of sacrificing one's will to 'superior' authority. All well and good for one's choice to lead a purely ascetic life in renunciation of the flesh, but poorly mixed with the world. Not to be swept under the rug, their membership is constituted of numerous power players. Not worried, but I did grow up under the painful stead of one of these householders and have my resentments.

And before you wonder, yes I can see the forest for the trees, I know there are 'bigger fish to fry'

Originally Posted by Monk

Hi Zonark,

If you are worried who is looking down on you, that would be National Geospatial-Intelligence agency, established on 1st October 1996, before 2011, its H.Q. was in Bethesda, Maryland, which is why i used that location as a fix, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...ligence_Agency

Egyptian sunrise day marker used, while Sirius culminates in centre of sky, very nice!

Graph on link below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/...3913&mode=view

Come to think of it I am becoming less worried about whose pairs of human eyes with only one pointed consciousness, 2 eyes and 3 dimensional vision watch me these days, but thank you all the same

On the outside looking in

In Bethesda is it?
beth hesda means "House of Mercy"
Takes its name from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pool_of_Bethesda
A Watcher to stir the pools in the House of Mercy. Interesting.

Oh and the Pools were in the Muslim quarter of Jerusalem. NGA played an important hand in catching Osama, Templar Crusaders capturing the Pools in 1138 A.D. and building a church over them. History does indeed repeat itself.

[Monk]

Hi Culpeper,

Thanks for comments, U.K. have "Surveillance meltdown regarding CCTV" link below:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6108496.stm

I really couldn't care what symbols masons put in street plans, but i hold Ohio masons with deep regard....at least they admit it when it was done, every where else they don't, including Bath, UK!

Sandusky, Ohio below:-

http://www.remarkableohio.org/Histor...52&fileId=5603

[Zonark]

Originally Posted by Monk

Hi Culpeper,

Thanks for comments, U.K. have "Surveillance meltdown regarding CCTV" link below:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6108496.stm

I really couldn't care what symbols masons put in street plans, but i hold Ohio masons with deep regard....at least they admit it when it was done, every where else they don't, including Bath, UK!

Sandusky, Ohio below:-

http://www.remarkableohio.org/Histor...52&fileId=5603

I think I'm getting a handle on this... DCA created 12 June 2003, so where was Sirius shining down from then? Monk what program are you using for your calculations?

Whoops, clarification re; why I referred to the now defunct Department of Constitutional Affairs;

"The Department for Constitutional Affairs (DCA) said there needed to be a balance between sharing information responsibly and respecting the citizen's rights.
A spokesman said: "Massive social and technological advances have occurred in the last few decades and will continue in the years to come."


Oh I wish I had a knack for latin, there's a term for this political hoopla that is right on the tip of my tongue. Something about getting to discussing the solution before anyone else can so the 'problem' can keep on being a problem and a boon to TPTP (the powers that pretend).