Constellations are real stars forming "patterns" "pictures" "Images" in the sky

JUPITERASC

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Constellations are real stars forming "patterns" "pictures" "Images" in the sky

IMO it is common knowledge that at that ancient time when most people thought the universe was a living being, it was "The Norm" to imagine tiny points of light they saw in the night sky as being grouped into separate, distinct sets of 'Images'. These 'Images' were made up of separate stars which - in the opinion of the ancient people of this planet - seemed to be grouped together. Thousands of years ago, on various parts of the planet Earth, different cultures imaginatively 'connected the dots' of the tiny points of light that they thought were close to each other and personified them as 'Mythical Beings' and narrated stories about the lives of these Mythical Beings. The Mythical Beings and the stories of their lives varied from culture to culture. Different cultures imagined different images in the patterns of the stars of the night sky. The ancient people of this planet did not know that these tiny points of light were hundreds - perhaps even thousands - of light years distant from each other. :smile:

THE FOLLOWING IS A QUOTE FROM WIDIPEDIA
Former constellations are constellations that are no longer recognized by the International Astronomical Union for various reasons. Many of these constellations existed for long periods of time, even centuries in many cases, which means they still have a large historical value and can be found on older star charts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Former_constellations

THE FOLLOWING ENCAPSULATED INFORMATION MAY BE FOUND AT http://www.physics.csbsju.edu/astro/asp/constellation.faq.html

The oldest description of the constellations as we know them comes from a poem called Phaenomena written by Greek poet Aratus 270 B.C. and it is clear from the poem that the constellations mentioned originated long before Aratus' time. Some detective work reveals a plausible origin. Firstly, Aratus' constellations excluded any near the south celestial pole because that was always below the horizon of the ancient constellation-makers. From the size of this uncharted area of the sky, we can determine that the people responsible for the original constellations lived near a latitude of 36° north which is south of Greece and north of Egypt but similar to the latitude of the ancient Babylonians and Sumerians.

Because of a "wobble" of the Earth's axis of rotation, the position of the celestial poles changes slowly with time - which is a phenomenon known as precession. The constellation-free zone is not centered exactly on the south celestial pole, instead the uncharted area is centered on the place in the sky where the south celestial pole would have been around the year 2000 B.C. This date matches the time of the Babylonians and Sumerians. So it seems likely that the Greek constellations originated with the Sumerians and Babylonians. From there, knowledge of the constellations somehow made its way to Egypt - perhaps through the Minoans on Crete who had contact with the Babylonians and settled in Egypt after an explosive volcanic eruption destroyed their civilization, and from there early Greek scholars first heard about the constellations and wrote about them.

When most ancient cultures looked at the night sky they saw 'pictures' aka 'Images' in the stars. The earliest known efforts to catalogue the stars date to cuneiform texts (i.e. Sumerian/Babylonian/Assyrian texts and artefacts)and artefacts dating back roughly 6000 years. These remnants, found in the valley of the Euphrates River, suggest that the ancients observing the heavens saw the lion, the bull, and the scorpion in the stars.

here's a link to an interesting British Museum web page regarding the origins of writing in Mesopotamia
http://www.mesopotamia.co.uk/writing/story/sto_set.html
 

JUPITERASC

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Re: Constellations are real stars forming "patterns" "pictures" "Images" in the sky

For those seeking information on fixed stars and constellations as applied in astrology then I recommend THE FIXED STARS AND CONSTELLATIONS IN ASTROLOGY by Vivian E Robson http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Fixed-St.../dp/1933303131



An excellent resource site was temporarily unavailable within the past few days but fortunately is currently restored - comprehensive, detailed FREE information on hundreds of fixed stars at http://www.constellationsofwords.com/Fixedstars.htm

DETAILED INFORMATION ON THE SITE INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING :smile:


'…....The Named Fixed Stars in Various Orders


The fixed stars in alphabetical order
The fixed stars in longitude order
The fixed stars in magnitude order
The fixed stars in ecliptic latitude order
The fixed stars in declination order
The fixed stars in right ascension order
Michael Erlewine's list of 768 fixed stars


Articles


Introduction to the fixed stars
The fixed stars in natal astrology
The fixed stars in mundane astrology
Lunar Mansions — Arabic, Hindu, Chinese
Events in history
Precession and the Age of Pisces
The Milky Way
The Character of Myth and the Draconic Transverse by Barry Long.....'



'….The Fixed Star Categories

Mundane
Tragedies and natural disasters
Agriculture
Weather
Travel, foreign, journeys, immigration
Hobbies and interests
Occupations and special abilities
Mind and Intellect
Character traits
Mental condition
Health
Accidents and injuries
Physical defects
Drugs and alcohol
Appearances
Love affairs and relationships
Sexuality
Women
Marriage and domestic conditions
Children and parents
Family and relatives
Friends
Enemies
Superiors
Business and business associates
Money and fortune
Misfortune
Inheritances
Fame, reputation and honors
Crime
The Law
Secrets
Animals
Religion and the higher mind
Good and evil
Tarot trumps and Hebrew letters
Symbolisms
Conditions of life
Death...'
 

dr. farr

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Re: Constellations are real stars forming "patterns" "pictures" "Images" in the sky

Don't forget the Lunar Mansions-the original sidereal ones, still considered highly important astrological factors, as hsieu (28 of them) in Chinese astrology, and as nakshatras (27 of them) in Vedic astrology: these are asterisms (small groups of stars) and each has an image, planetary affinity, meaning, and in a very real sense they form a sidereal "Lunar zodiac" which goes back (in historical records) to China and Egypt as early as 2000 BC.
 

JUPITERASC

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Re: Constellations are real stars forming "patterns" "pictures" "Images" in the sky

QUOTE


'…..man did not see pictures in the night skies
and then circumscribe the constellations
according to artistic vision.
Instead
man noted that people born when certain groupings of stars were rising
or setting
or directly overhead
exhibited certain characteristics in common :smile:


These characteristics seemed animalistic,
bird like,
aquatic
heroic
or ultra humanistic.

Once this correlation was made,
the symbolic mind of man
assigned SHAPE to groupings of stars
for easy reference.

Some shapes were earthly, human

some creative fantasies

but each shape or constellation
represented symbolically
THE OBSERVED EFFECTS OF THAT GROUP OF STARS
when manifested in the life of a person...' Robert Huntz Granite
 
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