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01-20-2012, 11:11 PM
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newbie here trying to learn
Hi! I am 31 years old. Disabled and raising a beautiful little girl who is my niece and is autistic. I care for my father and brother, and am in general trying to work on self help kinds of things. Mostly I am here to better understand why I don't feel like a Leo and getting my chart has helped that already as I understand now that there is more to it than just the signs. I look forward to making friends and learning new information in order to grow myself and to empower me to help others.
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Rising Sign is in 01 Degrees Taurus
Sun is in 03 Degrees Leo
Moon is in 14 Degrees Capricorn
Mercury is in 15 Degrees Cancer
Venus is in 22 Degrees Gemini
Mars is in 08 Degrees Libra
Jupiter is in 10 Degrees Virgo
Saturn is in 23 Degrees Virgo
Uranus is in 21 Degrees Scorpio
Neptune is in 20 Degrees Sagittarius
Pluto is in 19 Degrees Libra
N. Node is in 20 Degrees Leo
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01-22-2012, 04:34 PM
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Re: newbie here trying to learn
Hi Adelissa,
Can't believe I missed this thread, just saw it now. I'm new here too and I have started with picking up a new intro thread each time I post so that I can get to know some "faces" (much like a cocktail party where I don't know anyone! LOL)
Well, I'm not versed well enough in astrology to answer your question of not feeling like a Lion/Lioness, I'd still like to point out that lions are pretty big cats with big shoulders and you look like you're carrying quite a load on your shoulders!
I am eager to hear how others will answer your question.
Can you tell us more about you? I'm curious about what you do for fun, for instance.
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01-22-2012, 05:12 PM
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Re: newbie here trying to learn
ada~
welcome!
first, i'll tell you i can't read thumbnail chart but from what you describe, i'd consider you have inter-relation with saturn, chiron and 12th house?
your leo generosity is evidenced in being disabled and still offering to raise your niece - noblesse of heart, for sure - the more the merrier.
no kids of you're own?
is your disability something you were born with or circumstantial/event oriented?
leo's straddle the fulcrum of giving from heart or getting attention in giving ~ most prominently if pisces/leo figure in.
if able, cut and paste chart to a post? i can share more if possible.
if you were born with disability - is there a relation to moon-chiron-uranus? some kind of unexpected event that gave you an opportunity to heal yourself thru healing others? 3rd house would be prominent, uranus or pluto or saturn in or in relation to planets in 3rd or ruler of 3rd house cusp. siblings and young family members.
the quest to understand "more than just planets" is indicative of jupiter ~ advanced learning or pluto ~ getting to meat of matter, with, i'd suggest, contact to mercury.
random instinct on my part here ~
questioning why/how "i ended up here?" is neptune.
questioning "can i do this?" is pluto.
acceptance of situations is saturn.
what is it that you hope to understand about yourself, specifically?
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02-04-2012, 04:39 PM
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Re: newbie here trying to learn
Mostly I was trying to confirm things I think are true about myself but don't come across in typical leo horoscopes, this is a bunch on what I figured out based on my houses
[Venus in House 3 tends to produce a facility for communication, a fine singing or speaking voice as well as an appreciation of literature and the arts. The experience of education is usually positive to a person with this placement although of itself it does not usually produce a particularly powerful intellect. The concern, rather, is with order.
A love for the locality of birth and a close relationship with one or all of the siblings may produce a certain clannishness. Within a person with Venus in H3, there is rarely any desire to leave the culture of birth, unless the outer planets are also in H3.
I love to sing and am a homebody. I don't consider myself hugely intelligent but love to learn and know more about things so this was spot on. I can't stand disorder. I get physically ill in a cluttered room but that might be my clausterphobia. I do love my sisters but I am not as close to them as I would like to be. The distance is more on their part and sometimes I feel very alone.
Mercury in the 4th House with the Sun increases inward-looking ness of the disposition and creates a reality, which is greatly influenced by the emotional states and by the example and experience of the mother who may be of an anxious or highly strung disposition.
To people with this combination in H4 the need to feel secure is of paramount importance. A person’s level of awareness will determine whether he will rely upon bricks and mortar to provide the sense of security or whether he will create a centre within himself by means of self understanding. (I am kind of half and half but lately experiences have made me much less materialistic. Also I am always on a journey of self understanding)
When Mercury is in H4 and the Sun in H5 then the form which a person’s creativity takes will be heavily influenced by, and in all probability designed to impart, psychological insight. This combination produces authors, poets and fine artists. It is also evident in the charts of therapists and healers who seek to use both their own creativity and that of their clients in order to bring about healing at the emotional level.
Regardless of the placement of the Sun, a person with Mercury in H4 is closely identified with the perspectives and preconceptions of the culture into which he is born and has difficulty adapting to those of other societies. Loneliness and a sense of alienation are frequently the result of long periods spent abroad.
I relate to this strongly and love to write and draw. My drawing is pretty much exclusively amateur clothing design.
Anyway I won't bore you with every house but this is an example of what I am learning. I love confirmation of sorts that I was meant to act the way I do. A lot of times with mental illness it can be confusing as to what is the sick part and what is the natural personality you should embrace. Thanks for the interest
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Rising Sign is in 01 Degrees Taurus
Sun is in 03 Degrees Leo
Moon is in 14 Degrees Capricorn
Mercury is in 15 Degrees Cancer
Venus is in 22 Degrees Gemini
Mars is in 08 Degrees Libra
Jupiter is in 10 Degrees Virgo
Saturn is in 23 Degrees Virgo
Uranus is in 21 Degrees Scorpio
Neptune is in 20 Degrees Sagittarius
Pluto is in 19 Degrees Libra
N. Node is in 20 Degrees Leo
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02-04-2012, 08:42 PM
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Re: newbie here trying to learn
Hi Adelissa. Welcome to the forum. I just thought I'd mention firstly that Venus in the 3rd house is different to Venus in Gemini, which is what you have. You have Neptune in the 3rd house, which also suggests a creative mind. Also, Venus in Gemini also has attributes similar to Venus in the 3rd house anyway. So likewise, your Mercury is in Cancer in the 9th house, and the only 4th house planet in your chart is the Moon in Capricorn.
It's not surprising that you don't feel like a typical Leo. People often have to strive to develop their Sun sign, especially when the rest of the chart shows emphases that differ from the Sun sign. Besides the Sun in Leo, the only other planet in fire in your chart is Neptune in Sagittarius, and since Neptune is not a personal planet, it leaves the Sun as the only personal planet carrying the mantle for the fire signs. Also, the Sun doesn't seem to make any close major aspects to other planets, which could add to the need to make extra effort to develop it.
However, Sun in Leo biquintile Neptune in the 3rd seems to be expressed through your clothes designing, so I'm sure you are quite in touch with your Sun. Leo doesn't have to be showy and extroverted. The essence of this sign is the seeking of a connection with the vital core of one's being. This can be expressed in wide variety of ways, from theatrical and artistic pursuits, to religious endeavours. The ultimate purpose of Leonine creativity is to experience one's essential core self by seeing it's reflected in one's creations. The audience is not necessary for this process of self-seeking, although insecure Leo's often seek it as an emotional crutch.
Libra rising, with Libra's ruler, Venus in Gemini - a very amiable and communicative combination - seems to be very compatible with the magnanimous and expressive side of Leo.
Pluto on the Ascendant, however, might bring a sense of secrecy and caution to the way you approach life. This could hinder the outward expression of the Leo creativity. The Pluto rising combined with Sun in Leo could also create formidable strength of character.
Since fire and earth are elements which describe opposite ways of perceiving the world, the needs of your Moon in earthy Capricorn could also seem at odds with your Leo Sun's need for spontaneity. Moon in Capricorn suggests that a sense of safety and belonging are found through allegiance to a set of laws or traditions. There is often an instinctive sense of obligation and pragmatism - it is interesting that you look after your family, since this dutiful Moon is in the 4th house of domesticity and origins.
Capricorn's ruler, Saturn, is in the 12th house suggesting that the sense of duty is very open to the needs of others.
Although your Sun and Moon do not form an opposition aspect, they are in opposite houses, and there is a suggestion in the 10th house Leo Sun that a part of you needs to express yourself to the wider world.
With assertive Mars not its usual forceful self in diplomatic Libra in the 12th house of awareness of collective yearnings and suffering, you may need to be careful to make time for yourself.
I would imagine that besides the Libra and Gemini need for intellectual stimulation, and the Plutonian need to dig beneath the surface of life, that Jupiter in the 11th house of shared ideas and group participation is feeling pretty good about being on the forum and taking up astrology.
And I think the Mercury in Cancer in the 9th reflects your desire to use knowledge gained to help others, Cancer being maternal by nature. Its also a very imaginative sign, so Mercury in Cancer probably feeds into your creative pursuits too.
There is a T-square formation in your chart which will almost certainly be significant for you. It involves Mercury opposite the Moon, with both making square aspects to Pluto. The cautiousness of Moon in Capricorn and the tendency to sometimes worry of Mercury in Cancer, could be intensified by the rising Pluto possible generating anxieties and a need for self-protection. Perhaps the placements involved in this T square are the main reasons why you don't feel like a typical Leo.
The orbs used by astro.com can be lessened - there's an option where you select the chart format. I'd reduce them to 80%, especially while you're just getting started. There's also an option to include aspects to Chiron in the aspect lines.
Hope this was helpful. Feel free to ask anything else if you like.
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By nature we have no defect that could not become a strength,
no strength that could not become a defect
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Every chart is a dog's dinner in terms of consistency of theme
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02-20-2012, 03:01 AM
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Re: newbie here trying to learn
It was very helpful thank you! The houses still confuse me but I got the info in my sig from a site that asks your birthdate place time etc.
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Rising Sign is in 01 Degrees Taurus
Sun is in 03 Degrees Leo
Moon is in 14 Degrees Capricorn
Mercury is in 15 Degrees Cancer
Venus is in 22 Degrees Gemini
Mars is in 08 Degrees Libra
Jupiter is in 10 Degrees Virgo
Saturn is in 23 Degrees Virgo
Uranus is in 21 Degrees Scorpio
Neptune is in 20 Degrees Sagittarius
Pluto is in 19 Degrees Libra
N. Node is in 20 Degrees Leo
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