I must have a strong pluto...

[Bradders]

I've looked at my chart, seeing massive events in my life which have destroyed me over and over, only to rise up again and again!

It's unbelievable, I've felt so on the edge, breaking, snapping but I've still held on! It's unbelievable how strong I have become!

Relationships have destroyed me only to rise over and over, I'm like the devil himself playing with human souls, I drive people crazy even without thinking I am!

I'm so extreme! But yet I keep pushing! For my friends! My family! I'm like the devil himself, making everyone so psychotic!

I'd prefer if you watched it, seen my insanity. Haha, I go over everything. I fail to make promises and destroy myself in the process, trying to suceed at everything. I am a beast! A BEAST! I keep pushing on for everything!

Friends fear me because I am mad constantly making arrangements, fearing something. Constantly fearing.

http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi...377_3183908822

There is really nothing with me, only the fact I've stood bare in the face of many things. I fear no enemy. Over the last few months I have died over and over only to ressurect like a phoenix from the flame!

I'm 18! 18! But, life is amazing, the flow, the power, I drive my friends insane and try to overcome massive odds! It's fun. So fun.

[Rebel Uranian]

Be careful what you say.

[Bradders]

Umm, excuse me? o.o Why? What?

Cause a guy can't admit he's done something to free himself from troubles? Cause people are gonna be jealous? I've already felt that way.

Why, are you scared? Or think you've had it worse? Yeah, sure people have, but I realised I have true strength now to destroy my own inner demons.

Hell, I'm quite modest about it. No one knows what I've been through, but I ain't had it worse.

I'm simply admitting my power, but I'd prefer to say that is not the point of this. Would someone please read my chart?

[Rebel Uranian]

I already know.

[Bradders]

Alright. So can I politely ask someone looks in my chart for this Pluto? Or whatever led to my extremist ways for a while? Feeling mass destruction and then overcoming it? I'm simply being a positive thinker. I'm trying to be.

I was brought up to be myself, if you're not happy. Then I apologise. I've had massive confidence gained over massive troubles. I simply state fellow person I am that sort. I was dead inside before this happened.

I apologise if any feelings are hurt.

[sequestra]

Originally Posted by Bradders

Hell, I'm quite modest about it.

LOL... !!!

[Rebel Uranian]

Originally Posted by Bradders

Umm, excuse me? o.o Why? What?

Cause a guy can't admit he's done something to free himself from troubles? Cause people are gonna be jealous? I've already felt that way.

Why, are you scared? Or think you've had it worse? Yeah, sure people have, but I realised I have true strength now to destroy my own inner demons.

Hell, I'm quite modest about it. No one knows what I've been through, but I ain't had it worse.

I'm simply admitting my power, but I'd prefer to say that is not the point of this. Would someone please read my chart?

You severely edited your second post after I responded. I'm going to go look at this chart again. Pluto Scorpio is square Moon conjunct Saturn Aqu so it is quite strong, but it would take a lot of analyzing to see how strong. I have a strong Pluto myself trining my chart ruler. I can't say I've had things worse than anyone else because things are only worse for me than anyone else if I think that they are. I can enjoy suffering if I want to and they can hate their royal treatment if they want to.

Originally Posted by sequestra

LOL... !!!

Seconded.

Edit: Pay attention to that Yod to Mars Cancer. That probably explains a lot...

[Bradders]

I do not like how I'm treated here. I believe this is selfish...

If I seem selfish, then all I am going to say, is I have used this to help others and how I have been treated is unrighteous, empty and unkind, especially that lol by Sequestria there.

When I approached this site before, I was not met with such feelings. But I will not allow that to get in my way. I speak to you as human beings. Why am I spoken to this way?

I thank you. I believe on the other hand I am now treated coldly and unfairly and expected better. but at the same time, I will not let this get to me. People only hate what they see in themselves, and I will forgive for now. Never expecting such bliss to happen. I thank you Rebel Uranian for your help.

I expected much better behaviour, but I will only let go of a few things this time. If you believe I am trying to size up to you people, I believe I am misunderstood and apologise. I am trying unrighteously but I will know in my heart there are far better people. Atleast this time, I will not allow my anger to be set free. I see you're angry at yourselves and forgive.

[Rebel Uranian]

I'm not trying to be mean, and I understand you had tough times, but sometimes you can sound a bit egotistical. I admit that did laugh at bits in the presentation of your first post, which I think is pretty evident in my responses. I've had tough times too, and I've been able to convince not only me but other people that all my suffering, and a lot of suffering in general, is for good (look at the last people who did that and how that worked out.) It's sad that many people listen to my excuses, not matter how logical and well-thought out they may often be.

[Moog]

Originally Posted by Bradders

http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi...377_3183908822

Yeah, I'd say Pluto was powering Mars there. A whatsit; funnel. Mars is the outlet for a lot of this energy, and the Pluto trine makes it easy. That Uranus opposition must be interesting.

Pity there's no birth time.

[Rebel Uranian]

Originally Posted by Moog

Pity there's no birth time.

Chart angles are the single most important thing. They're like the chart's skeleton. I know how your chart's muscles and organs work but not really because it has no bones.

[Bradders]

Edit: What? I PLACED MY BIRTH TIME! It is 11:33 Pm.

Can a guy be blamed for having confidence? I am trying to talk to you as civil as I can.

I was once a very broken man, I'd prefer if you understood. If you don't understand this, I'd prefer if you realise, if I never changed, I would have died. I've been suicidal, depressed, all sorts of insanities

I feel my very mind has had to change, or destroy itself. I am not trying to talk egotistically. I'd prefer if you realise what you're seeing is what you're fearing. My soul is hated because it is believed to be impure. I've had extremely broken confidence. My soul drenched. All because I speak of this you believe I should've killed myself and worse?

I am trying to speak as civil as I can. I am only speaking from the very depths of my soul.

People can tell me all sorts of things. I am not trying to be impure. I rarely even show off. Because I am being told 'Look at me too soul, don't you realise how sadistic you seem?', Sir, I have barely even mentioned.

I see myself as unfairly judged. Especially confidence, I am supposed to tone myself down because my fellow humans are fearful? No, I am not going back into who I was before, when I am transformed!

[Moog]

Originally Posted by Bradders

Edit: What? I PLACED MY BIRTH TIME! It is 11:33 Pm.

It's not reflected in your chart, perhaps you'd like to recast it and repost it

[Bradders]

I thank you, Moog.

I will tone myself down slightly, but I'd prefer if the unreasoning excuses stopped. I'd prefer if you realised I am not going to tone down, especially when I know I am being civil.

Thank you especially much to Moog for being civil among that. I much appreciated. I would prefer the topic discussed, not how I approach you people. I am simply trying to talk with the best I can.

I believe if a man hasn't laid a hand on you he cannot be a enemy, but know there are worse people out there, I am sincerely trying to see all the good in my own fellow men too.

http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi...377_3183908822

I have changed my chart to 11:33 pm, I thank you for what was said.

If I do not realise the good in my own men, I will never benefit from the good I see in other people.

[Bradders]

Please may someone do my chart? I am confused.

I have done nothing to hurt you all, yet I feel this unlikely pain that hurts. I feel angry.

I am not trying to appear mean, I apologise. I am simply trying to domesticate to you.

[sequestra]

Eh man, peace. I'm sorry for discombobulating you. It's all good, chill, no disrespect

[Rebel Uranian]

Originally Posted by Bradders

Please may someone do my chart? I am confused.

I have done nothing to hurt you all, yet I feel this unlikely pain that hurts. I feel angry.

I am not trying to appear mean, I apologise. I am simply trying to domesticate to you.

You're making what you're doing all too apparent for it to work.

I'd like to do your chart but I'm not good enough at the current moment to be as thorough as I want to be.

[R4VEN]

Bradders, you have a way of writing/expressing yourself which is somewhat confusing. I see your name on your chart, but you write as though English is not your first language. This is disconcerting. What you wrote in your first few posts came across as though you were standing outside a room announcing yourself in a very loud voice. This is just how I read it.

To other posters, he has a tricky t-square formed by a Mars opposition to Uranus-Neptune () and all 3 planets square Jupiter in the 1st () This is not a shy retiring young man at all. Just the Mars-Jupiter square alone - even with Mars in Cancer - can be forceful and pushy with ideas and words.

Bradders, your Mars in Cancer can become defensive very easily, and then jump in with both feet, due to the square with Jupiter. One of your life lessons will be to learn to develop self-control. This may take you a very long time.

Your Pluto in Scorpio in the 3rd squares Moon-Venus conjunction (as mentioned by another poster above) and with Moon-Venus forming part of a Yod, your Pluto is something you should `befriend' - learn how it works, and determine to use it as it should be used. Some of what you said in your 1st post sounds very close to a misuse of Pluto. Pluto is about control and transformation - of yourself, but not of others.

Also, I just need to mention that we have previously had some of the Chiron in Leo generation posting on here in the past year or so. Chiron in Leo wishes to be centre-stage (an unconsious, but very powerful drive) so I believe that you may be unconsciously projecting this in your early couple of posts, Bradders. I have quite a lot of Leo in my chart also, and I know how annoying it is when I let my lion out - it seems to upset almost everyone!

[Bradders]

Right... I'm gonna discount all I've heard on me sounding insane.

I'm not drifted by opinions, but alright. You've made your points. I suppose you must be humbly amused. Haha.

Suddenly, I feel like a notorious villain who has came here to steal money; we're overexaggerating a little here. I've talked to you as calmly as I could. But, haha. I am amused.

No wonder I get people staring me down, or fights for no reason whatsoever. But for me to come out of a pretty self-conscious childhood and battering ram of a youth and then be appointed that, lol. HAHAHA.

I apologise. But, I take it as it is. I'm not afraid by it. It's not inducing even slight change in me, unless I see the reason to change, of course.

I can almost hear it sometimes, the voice when I talk to people, that little voice that yells little criticisms, but how I was raised, was to disband opinion, despite it has drove many family members and others insane.

I came here to live on this earth and thus, I shall. I thank you for all your hard work.