Hereditarity in the birth chart?

[Lissa]

Yep,another thread started by me
Belgianmoonguy inspired me for this one().
On that other thread I started about the hard time I'm having around home,Belgianmoonguy asked me to look at my mother's birth chart to see if my mom's Mercury/Jupiter were aflicted.I did look at her birth chart and found something that I personally think is quite interesting:both my parents have Moon conjunct Mars in their birth charts.Belgianmoonguy helped the party()by reminding me of my own Moon in Aries.

So,I openned all my family's birth chart(maybe that's why my computer is ruunning so slow )to see if I can find any patterns,any connections in the birth charts.I found that both my parents have Sun/Moon/Mars conjunctions.The orbs for the Sun/Moon conjunction are extremly wide,but the orb for the Moon/Mars conjunction,in both cases,is less than one degree.Then I looked at my brothers and my own birth chart and looked for Sun/Moon aspects to Mars.I found that my brother has Sun/Venus conjunct Mars in Gemini,while I have Sun in Pisces squaring Mars in Gemini.My sister doesn't have any important aspect between Mars and the Sun/Moon.But my sister also has her Moon in Aries.That makes absolut sense to me.Maybe my parents agressive behaviour(Sun/Moon conjunct Mars)has inspired agressive behaviour in their children(me and my sister's Moon in Aries).I also noticed that only person in my home that doesn't have a Moon in a fire sign is my brother(my dad,my sister and I have Moon in Aries;my mother has a Moon in the last degrees of Leo).My brother's Moon is dignified in Cancer.Now,here's something I personally think it's funny.When I was born,my mother was diagnosed with Lupus,which may somehow have incresead her nervous and inconsistent emotional behaviour.But,when my brother was born,by the time I was9,my mother's Lupus got a lot better.She was caring and patient with my brother in ways that she has never been with me.But,3years ago,when my sister was born,her Lupus got worse again,and she got back to her violent emotional explosions.I also noticed that there's a predominance of mutable Sun signs in our home;I'm a Pisces and my mother is a Virgo(our Sun's are not opposite by aspect;she's a early Virgo and I'm a late Pisces),my brother is a Gemini and my sister's a Sagitarius(they're Sun's are opposite by aspect);my dad is the only Cardinal Sun in our home,but he was born in the first degree of Aries.That explains all the mess and confusion and lack of rules in our home.

I just wanna put emphasis on the fact that I'm not a profissional astrologer.I'm just a girl who spent most of her summer hollidays reading about Astrology,looking at five different birth charts,trying to find a pattern.I don't really have lots of knowledgment in Astrology,so some of the things I said may not make any sense.So,please correct me if I said anything wrong.

I'm curious to see if you can find any type of pattern in the charts of your brothers,sisters,parents(or maybe I'm only the person on Earth who found this intriguing,which is very likely ).Like I said before,I'm not a professional astrologer,so I'd be happy to hear the opinion of more experienced people than me.

All the best,
Lissa

[Belgianmoonguy]

Cancer
Maternal Grandmother: Rising, Moon conjunct Pluto (Sun in 4 in Libra)
Mother: Sun, Mercury (in 9) Mc in Cancer... Has Moon in 1
Maternal Aunt: Mars in Cancer in 7 (also Dc)

What's weird between my mother and her sister: Mother has Mars Aries & Sun Cancer, Maternal Aunt has Mars in Cancer and Sun in Aries

Father: Mc Cancer, Moon in 4 in Capricorn
Brother: Jupiter Rising in Cancer (28°)
Maternal Grandfather: Also Jupiter in Cancer but in 12
Me: Sun (10) conjunct Ceres (10/11) conjunct Mars (11), Mercury (11), Ascendant ruler semisquare Rising

Something weird between my brothers chart and mine
He has his Sun @ 28° Pisces and Moon @ 3° Sag
I have My Sun @ 3° Cancer and Moon @ 28° Virgo
Besides, his Saturn is dropped in my 1st house, near my AC
I indeed see him as a restrction...

My dad and i have reversed nodes
He has True North Node in Scorpio in 2, i have True North Node in Taurus (in 9)
He has his NN conjunct Saturn, i have my SN conjunct Saturn...

Mother and father have Uranus in 10, i have Uranus in 4...
My father has an exact semisextile between Uranus & Venus, i have a quincunx between the two of them...

My Mother, Father & Brother have Cardinal Signs on the Rise...

My mother, brother and I have Saturn in 3 (and a funny fact, we all three tend to gravitate towards Gemini types... Mother & I are Cancer Suns, leaving Cap as our opposite, brother has Capricorn on the DC), my father in 2 but not far from 3...

I'm sure there are other ressemblances, but i think i bored you allready enough...

Mercury in Cardinal Signs (Brother in Aries, Father in Libra (opposed), Mother & I in Cancer))

Oh Yeah My Brother's AC falls on my Mothers Mc

My IC is conjunct my Dad's Saturn (same degree 0° Sag) and my brothers Moon (3°) In spite of the Saturn Ic, i always felt more @ home with my father then with my brother. May be cause he gave me grounded structure and tried to teach me responsability on my own

[Arian Maverick]

What a great idea for a thread!

Me: Aries stellium consisting of Ascendant, Sun, Moon, Mercury, and Venus
Mom: Libra stellium consisting of Sun, Mercury, Mars, and Neptune.

My mother and I both have a Uranus-Moon square aspect.

My brother and I both have tight sextile between the Moon and Jupiter.

My brother and I both have a first house Mercury in Aries, an eighth house retrograde Pluto in Scorpio, a culminating tenth house Uranus, and a tenth house Neptune in Capricorn.

My father and my brother have the Moon in its detriment in Capricorn and my mother has the Moon in its fall in Scorpio.

My father has an exalted Jupiter in Cancer and my brother has Jupiter in its traditional sign of rulership, Pisces.

My father has Mars in its fall in Taurus and my mother has Mars in its detriment in Libra. My brother's Mars is exalted in Capricorn.

My mother has Venus in its detriment in Scorpio and my brother has Venus in the sign of its rulership in Taurus.

My mother has the Sun in its fall in Libra and I have the Sun exalted in Aries.

My father and my brother have the same four retrograde planets--Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto.

My father's Moon is conjunct his North Node, and my brother's Sun is conjunct his North Node.

My father, brother, and I have at least yod aspect in our natal charts, the base of which is formed by a Pluto-Neptune sextile. My father's yod has apex Pisces Sun, my brother's yod has apex Venus in Taurus, and one of my yods has an apex Mars in Gemini. For both my brother and I, the apex of our yod is the dispositor of our Sun!

My brother and I have our natal Mercury within a degree of each other in Aries, which is exactly opposite my mother's natal Mercury in Libra.

My brother's Moon is tightly conjunct Mars, and I have an Aries Moon.

Arian Maverick

[Frisiangal]

LISSA:I'm curious to see if you can find any type of pattern in the charts of your brothers,sisters,parents(or maybe I'm only the person on Earth who found this intriguing,which is very likely ).

For a beginner you're already picking up patterns that many take years to notice.
The study of family/ancestral horoscopes is fascinating. WHY the same factors turn up time and again is unexplainable, rationally speaking. There is a theory that each generation produces a softer aspect but I don't know how true that is.

From memory:
I have Sun in Taurus, Moon in Capricorn.
My mother's Capricorn Sun conjoins my Moon, Her Taurus Moon is within orb of my Sun.
My youngest daughter's MC (mum?) is in Capricorn. Her Virgo Moon conjuncts my Ascendant.
We all have the calculated point of BML on 7-9 degr. in each of the Earth signs. Mum in Capricorn, my daughter in Taurus, I in Virgo.
( I strongly believe in a karmic link between the 3 of us. My daughter was born after my mother passed away.)

My son's IC-MC axis is EXACT conjunct my MC-IC axis (thus reversed).
My eldest daughter's ASC-DESC. axis is conjunct my DESC.-ASC. axis (thus reversed). Her MC-IC axis is also the reverse of mine.

My eldest daughter's Moon in Leo is square her youngest daughter's Moon in Scorpio. P-O-W! One guess who terrorises who.
My granddaughter's Asc. conjoins my M.C.
My eldest granddaughter shares my birthday. Her sister was due on my birthday but arrived 4 days later!

My youngest daughter was supposed to be a Scorpio Sun but arrived as a Sun in Libra with Pluto conjunct Libra Ascendant.
Her daughter is a Scorpio Sun, Moon in Libra.

My Son's Sun conjoins his eldest daughter's Sun.
Her Moon conjoins his MC.
His Moon in Virgo is exact conjunct his younger daughter's Sun.

And i haven't even got to the in-laws.

F.

[astrobhadauria]

Creative power urge combines with aggressive urge. This aspect stimulates the aggressive spirit and ambitions of mother and father. It can be mutually encouraging, though sometimes it arouses rivalry. Progress together will be rapid where mother and father are fully cooperative. Between persons of the opposite sex and especially in marriage, it is best if the wife's MARS applies to the husband's SUN. Where the reverse is found, the man tends to be domineering, demanding and impatient toward the wife, though he will protect and defend her. He will stimulate her independence and power urge, thus sometimes arousing rivalry and resistance in her. This is an aspect of sexual attraction and compatibility.

[Paws of Nickel]

Hey, I like this thread. It's interesting to see what familial patterns repeat themselves. There's definitely a strong mutable influence in my family. My mom is a Virgo Sun-Sag Moon, my dad is a Gemini Sun ( and two planets there) and Virgo Moon. My sister is a Pisces Sun and my brother is a Sag Sun. I'm an exception, being Aquarius Sun, but I do have three mutable planets.
0-2 degrees degrees seem to be a hotspot. My brother, sister, and my Moon are all Air signs, clustered around there. My mom's Mercury in Libra's at 0 degrees, and so is her Virgo Mars. My sister's Mercury in Pisces is also found at the 0 degree. Dad's Mercury in Gemini is at 2 degrees and his Scorpio Mars is at 1 degree.
My mom's Jupiter in Gemini is in detriment, and my brother's Jupiter in Capricorn is in its fall.
My dad's Mars in Scorpio is in its domicile, and my sister's Mars in Taurus is in detriment. They don't oppose each other by aspect though.
My Mercury and Venus are conjunct, as is my dad's.
My sister's Moon in Libra opposes her Jupiter in Aries. My mom's Moon in Sag opposes her Jupiter in Gemini. My dad's Mars opposes his Jupiter Taurus.
My mom has a mutable T-square involving her Virgo sun, Sag Moon and Gemini Jupiter. My sister has a cardinal T-square involving her Jupiter in Aries opposing her Libra Moon squaring her Capricorn Neptune. She also has a fixed T-square, involving her Venus in Aquarius, Mars in Taurus, and Pluto in Scorpio.
My sister's Venus is conjunct my Sun and loosely my Venus and Mercury. My brother's Moon is conjunct mine.
My Mom's MC is conjunct my dad's Jupiter.
My dad's Ascendant is conjunct my sister's Moon.
My dad's North Node is conjunct my Mercury, Venus and Jupiter. My mom's North Node is conjunct my brother and my Moon.
My mom has a lot of Virgo and Libra, including her Sun, Mercury, Mars, Saturn and Neptune. I have a lot of Aquarius, with Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Jupiter there. My sister, on the other hand, has a planet in each of the signs from Libra to Pisces, plus Aries and Taurus. So no stellium for her.
Oppositions in synastries between me and the family are really common. We have an Aries-Libra, Taurus-Scorpio, Gemini-Sag, Cancer-Capricorn, Leo-Aquarius, and Virgo-Pisces polarity! In particular, it's the Pluto in Leo that drives me crazy! My mom's Pluto opposes the core of my Aquarius stellium (23 degrees) exactly. Good thing her Jupiter and Saturn trine them.
Between my mom and dad, their Gemini planets (4) oppose most of the Sag planets shared between me, my brother, and sister (8). My Uranus opposes my mom's Jupiter. My dad's Sun opposes my Saturn. My Mars oppose his Mercury and Venus. I can go on and on about the oppositions about my family, both in synastry and in the natal and it can go on and on and on! For just the Gemini-Sag axis! But I'll stop there.
Lastly, my brother's Mars in Aquarius squares my dad's in Scorpio and my sister's Taurus Mars loosely. My Sag mars squares my mom's Virgo Mars.

[Belgianmoonguy]

Originally Posted by Paws of Nickel

Hey, I like this thread. It's interesting to see what familial patterns repeat themselves. There's definitely a strong mutable influence in my family. My mom is a Virgo Sun-Sag Moon, my dad is a Gemini Sun ( and two planets there) and Virgo Moon. My sister is a Pisces Sun and my brother is a Sag Sun. I'm an exception, being Aquarius Sun, but I do have three mutable planets.
0-2 degrees degrees seem to be a hotspot. My brother, sister, and my Moon are all Air signs, clustered around there. My mom's Mercury in Libra's at 0 degrees, and so is her Virgo Mars. My sister's Mercury in Pisces is also found at the 0 degree. Dad's Mercury in Gemini is at 2 degrees and his Scorpio Mars is at 1 degree.
My mom's Jupiter in Gemini is in detriment, and my brother's Jupiter in Capricorn is in its fall.
My dad's Mars in Scorpio is in its domicile, and my sister's Mars in Taurus is in detriment. They don't oppose each other by aspect though.
My Mercury and Venus are conjunct, as is my dad's.
My sister's Moon in Libra opposes her Jupiter in Aries. My mom's Moon in Sag opposes her Jupiter in Gemini. My dad's Mars opposes his Jupiter Taurus.
My mom has a mutable T-square involving her Virgo sun, Sag Moon and Gemini Jupiter. My sister has a cardinal T-square involving her Jupiter in Aries opposing her Libra Moon squaring her Capricorn Neptune. She also has a fixed T-square, involving her Venus in Aquarius, Mars in Taurus, and Pluto in Scorpio.
My sister's Venus is conjunct my Sun and loosely my Venus and Mercury. My brother's Moon is conjunct mine.
My Mom's MC is conjunct my dad's Jupiter.
My dad's Ascendant is conjunct my sister's Moon.
My dad's North Node is conjunct my Mercury, Venus and Jupiter. My mom's North Node is conjunct my brother and my Moon.
My mom has a lot of Virgo and Libra, including her Sun, Mercury, Mars, Saturn and Neptune. I have a lot of Aquarius, with Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Jupiter there. My sister, on the other hand, has a planet in each of the signs from Libra to Pisces, plus Aries and Taurus. So no stellium for her.
Oppositions in synastries between me and the family are really common. We have an Aries-Libra, Taurus-Scorpio, Gemini-Sag, Cancer-Capricorn, Leo-Aquarius, and Virgo-Pisces polarity! In particular, it's the Pluto in Leo that drives me crazy! My mom's Pluto opposes the core of my Aquarius stellium (23 degrees) exactly. Good thing her Jupiter and Saturn trine them.
Between my mom and dad, their Gemini planets (4) oppose most of the Sag planets shared between me, my brother, and sister (8). My Uranus opposes my mom's Jupiter. My dad's Sun opposes my Saturn. My Mars oppose his Mercury and Venus. I can go on and on about the oppositions about my family, both in synastry and in the natal and it can go on and on and on! For just the Gemini-Sag axis! But I'll stop there.
Lastly, my brother's Mars in Aquarius squares my dad's in Scorpio and my sister's Taurus Mars loosely. My Sag mars squares my mom's Virgo Mars.

PN, is your sister born between 15 - 17/ 3/ 87?
Your mother has Virgo Mars, didn't you say your girlfriend also has this placement?
Funny, few yrs ago i had some relations with Scorpio Moon girls... My mother has Scorpio Moon (one of the SM girls was born 19/ 3/ 87, and has same placements as your sister, except the Moon)

[Paws of Nickel]

Originally Posted by Belgianmoonguy

PN, is your sister born between 15 - 17/ 3/ 87?
Your mother has Virgo Mars, didn't you say your girlfriend also has this placement?
Funny, few yrs ago i had some relations with Scorpio Moon girls... My mother has Scorpio Moon (one of the SM girls was born 19/ 3/ 87, and has same placements as your sister, except the Moon)

Hey Belgianmoonguy, my little sister was born on March 15, 1987, but barely, as she was born at 11:45 PM. I had a good friend who was a Scorpio Moon in high school. Our relationship was close, but sometimes tense. However, he was very loyal, and when he sets his heart on something, there was no deterring him from it. That's amazing how close my sister's birthday is to that of the Scorpio Moon partner. How was your relationship with her?

My mother and girlfriend has a Virgo Mars, but my girlfriend's is at 22 degrees, too far to square my Mars, but close enough to square my Uranus. She was born in the same year as my sister, 1987 in fact. Generally, I get along well with Virgos and people who have strong Virgo influence. I guess it comes with growing up with a Virgo Sun mother and a Virgo moon father.