Online job application chart

whitey · #1 12-05-2011, 11:23 PM

Hi there,

I usually am just an horary person but as I am in need of a descent job and having applied online, I have decided to see the event chart.

* The problem is that I have applied 3 positions at one time!

First thing to notice is its ascendant being 0 degree 27 seconds. Too early and maybe I dont have enough info about the post. But both ascendant ruler and 10th house rulers are applying in sextile which is a good sign. Also the moon's next move is conjunct to 10th house ruler. On the contrary, the reception between two planets are terrible. ( I am not sure if it is relevant to take this point into consideration here)

As I have uranus Rx sitting on ascendant, does that mean I may have negative surprise?

For one of the jobs I applied, my ex boss is currently the head of the office there and I already wrote to him to ask for some support. I am not sure if mature male helping out is being shown here.

I think there could be a chance that I get a job but I am not sure about early ascendant.

Any thoughts are welcome!

Thank you in advance,

whitey

dr. farr · #2 12-06-2011, 02:13 AM

Using the oldtime inceptional methods of Valens and Maximus, I think you have a fairly good chance of getting a + response to your applications:
-lord of Moon's sign, Saturn, is in a cardinal sign and in its exaltation = + indication
-Aries rising is a crooked sign (and a tropical one) = + indication
-Mars is posited in an elementally friendly sign, which is +, but it is also a fixed sign which is a mixed indication
-Moon's sign is cardinal, which is +, but Moon is just entering the Fiery Road, which is - testimony, so here we have net neutral

...so thats 2 + testimonies and a couple of net neutral testimonies, therefore total indications for the "event" are more positive than negative as to how things are likely to turn out; I'll say, you have a pretty good chance of obtaining your desires here.
Best wishes!

whitey · #3 12-06-2011, 11:58 PM

Thank you, dr. farr.

In this case, the early ascendant isnt an issue then? When I applied a job, I didnt know that my ex boss is actually a head of office there now. So that could be that.

I wonder if "the moon is just entering a fiery road" could mean that the job that I am going to get (if I am to) will make me suffer a lot. Because it will be very demanding as far as I know.

Anyway, thank you again for your help. I will let you know the outcome.

whitey

dr. farr · #4 12-07-2011, 03:34 AM

Yes the extemely early ascendant puts the reliability of indications in question; that's why I did not attempt a horary delineation of the question, but rather approached it as an "event" type chart, and used inceptional delineation rather than horary, in estimating the possible outcome. Your idea about the potential meaning of the Moon in Via Combusta, is a definite possibility.

Aquarius358 · #5 12-07-2011, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitey

Hi there,

I usually am just an horary person but as I am in need of a descent job and having applied online, I have decided to see the event chart.

* The problem is that I have applied 3 positions at one time!

First thing to notice is its ascendant being 0 degree 27 seconds. Too early and maybe I dont have enough info about the post. But both ascendant ruler and 10th house rulers are applying in sextile which is a good sign. Also the moon's next move is conjunct to 10th house ruler. On the contrary, the reception between two planets are terrible. ( I am not sure if it is relevant to take this point into consideration here)

As I have uranus Rx sitting on ascendant, does that mean I may have negative surprise?

For one of the jobs I applied, my ex boss is currently the head of the office there and I already wrote to him to ask for some support. I am not sure if mature male helping out is being shown here.

I think there could be a chance that I get a job but I am not sure about early ascendant.

Any thoughts are welcome!

Thank you in advance,

whitey

Hi- I think you should have news of your acceptance for the job very soon - as you say, Moon applies to 10 ruler in 3 deg ie 3 days? weeks? and 1 ruler Mars is sextile 10 ruler too.

In answer to your query, I'd say Yes, it could mean that the job is not so good for you, because Saturn is in Mars place of Detriment (Libra) while Mars is in Saturn's place of Detriment (in Leo). However, Saturn is very strong and well dignified though, so if you get a chance, double check all that they want from you, duties etc. The "detriment" could be that the money is not as good as you expected - or something like that. Or that you are offered one of the jobs on probation and without the security and permanency you might have liked. "Detriment" is always very much relative to the circumstances in which the question is asked, I find. (In questions about death or dying, it's sinister, of course.)

The 'mature male helping out'? The Sun (which is a general signifier of the job as well) is in Scorpio which is Mars' Sign, Triplicity, Term and Face! in the early degrees!! If he's already working there, he could be the Sun and yes, helping you.

Do let us know, won't you because this chart looks like a positive one! despite Moon being in the Via Combusta (which means she is weakened somewhat and this could simply be a description of your position at the moment - yes? or that you might have doubts or worries which you seem to be describing.)

Anyway, best of luck! Your reading was pretty good I reckon._____

whitey · #6 12-08-2011, 10:54 PM

Thank you guys,

So with this application I have applied 3 positions in space of few minutes because it is for the same company and they advertise global vacancies in a same website. As long as your profile is registered, you can apply multiple positions at one after another.

I am currently a non staff doing the same job as a staff with reduced salary. I am struggling with money and my contract will end at the end of march so I need to find something before then. (reason for via combusta moon as it has been pointed out? but my natal ascendant has 16 libra)

Description of 3 positions (in order of application):

1. Same area of work again but destination not known yet. Its a kind of roster for a specialist and if they accept my profile, only after that, they will assign me to the office which they think I can contribute to.

2.Different area of work in my home country. Never done this work but I feel I can be a good contribution. But since it is a totally new area of work for me, I will probably suffer a lot.

3.Same area of work as I do now but in a country in Central America.
*I didnt realize at that time of application but later someone reminded that my ex boss is currently working there as the head of the office. He moved there about a year ago. He is known to be very difficult to work with and very very picky. When he was working in the same office with me, we never worked closely together but I have heard from others that he actually valued my work. So I have a chance that he recommends me for the position as I wrote to him for his support but if I ever work with him, I will suffer a lot.

So there you go. I am also wondering in the event chart as well, there will be a way to assign each position to different planet like horary. 10th from 10th for 2nd job etc. Or is it better not to dig into too deep in this??? If I do this, I see the position 2 has a passed aspect and position 3 also may have a possibility.

Thank you very much,

whitey

dr. farr · #7 12-09-2011, 03:41 AM

I would simply allow 2 months (2 signs between you, Mars, and job significator Saturn) to see what happens; if nothing happens over the next several weeks, re-ask this question and be specific about the various potential jobs in your new question.

Best wishes!

Aquarius358 · #8 12-09-2011, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitey

Thank you guys,

So with this application I have applied 3 positions in space of few minutes because it is for the same company and they advertise global vacancies in a same website. As long as your profile is registered, you can apply multiple positions at one after another.

I am currently a non staff doing the same job as a staff with reduced salary. I am struggling with money and my contract will end at the end of march so I need to find something before then. (reason for via combusta moon as it has been pointed out? but my natal ascendant has 16 libra)

Description of 3 positions (in order of application):

1. Same area of work again but destination not known yet. Its a kind of roster for a specialist and if they accept my profile, only after that, they will assign me to the office which they think I can contribute to.

2.Different area of work in my home country. Never done this work but I feel I can be a good contribution. But since it is a totally new area of work for me, I will probably suffer a lot.

3.Same area of work as I do now but in a country in Central America.
*I didnt realize at that time of application but later someone reminded that my ex boss is currently working there as the head of the office. He moved there about a year ago. He is known to be very difficult to work with and very very picky. When he was working in the same office with me, we never worked closely together but I have heard from others that he actually valued my work. So I have a chance that he recommends me for the position as I wrote to him for his support but if I ever work with him, I will suffer a lot.

So there you go. I am also wondering in the event chart as well, there will be a way to assign each position to different planet like horary. 10th from 10th for 2nd job etc. Or is it better not to dig into too deep in this??? If I do this, I see the position 2 has a passed aspect and position 3 also may have a possibility.
Thank you very much,
whitey

Hi - First, as to what to take as the significator of the 2nd and 3rd jobs, John Frawley (in The Horary Textbook) recommends taking next house anti clockwise, ie 11 ruler for the 2nd job and 12 ruler for the 3rd job etc, moving anti clockwise - if degrees on the MC concur or make sense - eg if late degrees on MC, then that's the job you're in at the moment. That's not the case here though. The very early degrees on the 10th would mean the first job. SO ... Saturn rules 1st and 2nd jobs as 10 and 11 ruler.

Jupiter would be the 3rd job with your ex boss. Moon is not making an application to Jupiter and, as if to emphasise that, Sun opposes Jupiter which could mean yr ex boss might not be helping you after all! You did mention that it was hearsay only that this difficult person was likely to help you ...

What do you think?___________

dr. farr · #9 12-09-2011, 03:59 AM

Makes sense to me (actually the technique you mention is similar to one in Vedic astrology) Seems, then, that, with Saturn in exaltation, and with Jupiter rx (and opposed by Sun) perhaps jobs 1 and 2 are more likely than job 3...

whitey · #10 12-09-2011, 09:27 PM

Thank you!!

So in few weeks it will be 2 months as the application was made on 25th october.

I dont surprise if my ex boss doesnt help me after all because he is a kind of person who doesnt give a ride to a colleague who is living in the same apartment building when they were leaving the building together. (he has a company car with a driver)

I will let you know the outcome!

whitey

whitey · #11 01-22-2012, 03:04 PM

Dear all,

Apologies for not posting the outcome. Insania sent me a message asking what happened so I am sharing the following:

(sorry, it is kinda complicated)

On 28th Dec 2011, I received a mail from the office who wanted to do a written exam for me. Actually, it is NOT the work I applied on this original chart but later. (in total I have 9 positions that applied pending for the organization I work for as we speak) The 3 positions that I applied in one go which was the question of this chart didnt get back to me so far nor have I heard that they selected someone else. (The prob is that I will not hear anything at all, if I havent reached an interview stage unless the person who got the job resumes to work) To that extent, there is still a possibility that I may be selected but I got this feeling that the chance is very small as so much time has passed. However, it is not conclusive yet.

As for the job that I did an written exam for, I did it on 30 Dec and havent heard from them since. This also could indicate that I didnt get to the interview stage.

I will let you guys of otherwise but I say for now that outcome was negative.

Thank you!

whitey

insania · #12 01-22-2012, 03:31 PM

Whitey, I asked because I was/am curious how your story ends.

It's weird that you've sent your applications in June and they still haven't decided it yet?

But thanks for your update.

whitey · #13 01-22-2012, 06:50 PM

Insania,

The 3 applications were sent on 25 Oct 2011 and I still havent heard from them. But this is normal in our org because it is so slow and also i can only learn that I didnt get through when the person who got a post started to work. (then they will send automatic mail saying I didnt get the post)

Thanks,

whitey

dr. farr · #14 01-23-2012, 03:13 AM

I think that specific questions for each application (ie, will I get job #1, job #2, etc) are needed here-due to the extreme earliness of the original chart rendering delineation possibly unreliable, and also the mixed +/neutral indications looking at that chart from the inceptional perspective, and Moon in the Fiery Road also possibly undermining the reliability of that first chart.

whitey · #15 03-24-2012, 01:28 AM

(update)

Still no news about posts. (the results are not conclusive either as I see ' under consideration' on the website) Please consider the outcome was negative unless I post otherwise.

dr. farr · #16 03-24-2012, 04:23 AM

I'll conclude right now that the outcome is negative; I was never satisfied with the original chart in this matter (see my above posts), and even the non-horary inceptional chart was a mixed affair (see above) I think the question should have been re-asked probably in January (as suggested in my posting of 12/08/11, above) for a clearer Cosmic response (the original 0 degree ascendant was just too early even for me, and I'll accept as early as 1 degree as valid!!)

Two possible "telltale" indications, though, from the chart:
1) your house of communications, the 3rd whole sign house (communications house because of online application) is under Gemini and posits the SN, which to me is a certain indication of negative results
2) your 10th whole sign house (careers, etc) is under Capricorn, which-by the 8 Ball astro-divination method-means Saturn which = a "no" answer (to yes/no type questions): so the Magic 8 Ball would have predicted a "no" answer to your question.

Looking at the chart from a more horary point, I notice that the Moon is applying to the 10th house significator, Saturn, and Saturn is dignified by angularity and by sign exaltation; and your significator, Mars, is in partile sextile to Saturn (and flows toward it)-all these would seem to bode well for a "yes" answer, EXCEPT that you (Mars) are in a pitted degree (means, basically, you are blocked relative to this employment application matter)-so, this pitted state of your significator I think puts the brakes on the otherwise positive indications (Saturn, Moon) in this chart.

whitey · #17 03-24-2012, 04:42 AM

Thank you Dr. Farr.

So I am closing the thread.

R.J. · #18 03-27-2012, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitey

Hi there,

I usually am just an horary person but as I am in need of a descent job and having applied online, I have decided to see the event chart.

* The problem is that I have applied 3 positions at one time!

First thing to notice is its ascendant being 0 degree 27 seconds. Too early and maybe I dont have enough info about the post. But both ascendant ruler and 10th house rulers are applying in sextile which is a good sign. Also the moon's next move is conjunct to 10th house ruler. On the contrary, the reception between two planets are terrible. ( I am not sure if it is relevant to take this point into consideration here)

As I have uranus Rx sitting on ascendant, does that mean I may have negative surprise?

For one of the jobs I applied, my ex boss is currently the head of the office there and I already wrote to him to ask for some support. I am not sure if mature male helping out is being shown here.

I think there could be a chance that I get a job but I am not sure about early ascendant.

Any thoughts are welcome!

Thank you in advance,

whitey

Hello Whitey:

Two strictures against Judgement appear in this chart, a) invalid ascendant, less than 3 degrees Aries, and invalid 6th house cusp (employment) Less than 3 degrees Virgo.

Therefore, the question was PREMATURE !

Meanwhile, ruler of ascendant and ruler of 6th house are SQUARE (90 degrees) so obviously, your chances of finding work weren't that good from the beginning !

all the best,

R.J. Smith

whitey · #19 03-27-2012, 12:22 PM

Thanks RJ

whitey

R.J. · #20 03-27-2012, 10:06 PM

" Thanks rj but I dont consider the 6th house as employment, just the 10th house.. "

That's because you are not well trained in horary analysis, like I am.

The horary methods of the great Barbara Watters, which I use (in existence since the 1950's) says the 6th house "is being in the employ of others..."

The 10th house represents: " those who are self-employed or who are the boss..'

Do you now understand, why ?

For more information, please check out her classic book: Horary Astrology and the Judgement of Events.

regards,

R.J. Smith

whitey · #21 03-28-2012, 02:36 AM

Sorry, R.J. I have editated the above message before you commented on it. I am not sure why you saw the old one but anyway, I realised that I made a mistake.

Thanks for pointing out.

whitey

R.J. · #22 03-29-2012, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitey

Sorry, R.J. I have editated the above message before you commented on it. I am not sure why you saw the old one but anyway, I realised that I made a mistake.

Thanks for pointing out.

whitey

Just want to wish you the best of luck in your endeavers...

all the best,

R.J.

whitey · #23 05-24-2012, 11:21 PM

(update)

You guys may not be interested any more but today I heard that I wasnt selected for 2 posts. The last one is yet to see but I consider no as well.

Thank you!

whitey

dr. farr · #24 05-25-2012, 02:20 AM

Thanks for the update, although I am sorry it wasn't positive: still I had strong doubts about this matter, as I mentioned in my post of March 23rd (above); hope you will have better luck soon regarding new employment.

Aquarius358 · #25 05-25-2012, 05:45 AM

Hi Whitey - In respect of the 3rd job and Jupiter being its significator, Mars is not aspecting Jupiter so it also looks negative - I have to agree - and even tho Jupiter receives Mars by Term, Mars is in Jupiter’s Detriment. Oh dear, and then there’s the angular Pluto and Uranus leering over things.

Thanks for the feedback. It’s always very much appreciated! _______