Was the Real Saddam Executed?

[Arian Maverick]

I'm not sure if this chart is valid because I did not originally think of this question, but rather, read this suggestion on another non-astrology forum and highly doubt that any of the several members involved in this discussion remember the exact time they thought of this question, as it seemed to be described as a suspicion rather than sudden insight.

I read the post and understood the question at 2:41 PM EST. Please send me a personal message if you are a serious horary astrologer and wish to know my exact location in order to construct a chart using another program.

I am an American, and I believe it to be a huge understatement of fact to say that my country has considered Saddam Hussien to be one of its largest threats. Thus, I believe the dictator may be represented by the seventh house, since he is/was certainly a "public enemy" to America, which is signified by Mercury in Gemini conjunct the eighth house cusp. I am a novice at best in this particular branch of astrology, so please excuse my questions. Would Saddam's death be represented by the eighth house from the seventh, the second house cusp in the unturned chart? Or should I turn the chart further and have Saddam be represented as a dictator (tenth house) of the Iraqi people (seventh house of "known enemies" since my country is currently at war with them)--the fourth house cusp, which retrograde Saturn is conjunct in the sign of Leo? Or am I complicating this far too much?

Also, where in the chart can I find astrological evidence, if any exists, of a substitute being executed in Saddam's place?



Arian Maverick

[business voodoo]

if you want to know the truth about the reality of the death, run the chart for 6:00 a.m. local time on the 30th of December ... and perhaps a synastry with his natal chart. the horary of your question would only be as it would relate to you and what you believe about the death of mr. hussien. it would not reveal the truth of the death ... you would want to look at the actual event chart to see that kind of information.

and not that i'm replying to you in particular, some of the things you said in your post got me thinking about what's really going on, and perhaps is revealed in the horary of your question ... e.g., sun in the 8th house, secrets and 'back door' deals. saturn in the 4th, trining pluto & mars ... with uranus in the 10th, the horary would show that something unexpected or shocking is actually being expressed to the external world. with the concentration in the 7th house of mercury, pluto and mars, with jupiter as well in its house of rulership, there's a need for dialogue and work to understand the answer of the question by the petitioner. with neptune (conjunct with the MC) and chiron in the 9th house, it is clear that higher principles and understanding are the key to the petitioner/questioner attaining clarity with regards to the answer ... and not necessarily the actual answer to the question.

i don't know what your particular position is, as you refer to how 'america' sees hussien and not necessarily your own particular views, so the following are my thoughts about how 'america' is viewing this whole thing ... its a rant, not really astrologically related, but perhaps you can relate it to the horary of your question vis-a-vis your personal thoughts and understanding, and it may shed some light.

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interesting ... saddam hussien has never threatened america so its very interesting that anyone would think that a dictator who the forebearers of this current administration put in power and gave him all of his weapons is or was a threat to us in any way, shape or form.

the only threat or fear we have is fear itself and those who would want to make us feel fearful. the only people in america trying to make americans afraid is our own government, the vary same people who now claim hussien as a threat because he chose not to be a player with their rules ... much like chavez in venzuela or castro in cuba. what a threat castro has turned out to be all these years later? what threat was communism all these years later?

hey, i didn't like the guy either, but we cannot stop killers by killing. "do unto other what you would have them do unto you." either we stop violence and killing or we continue it. as the "most powerful country on earth" we have that choice and freedom to make that choice -- choose violence or choose non-violence. after all, once his power was seized, his ability to injure another was removed, putting him in a prison for the rest of his life would have rendered him powerless and a threat to no one ... just like john gotti or, in essence how we isolated castro in cuba.

ironic that we, at the same time, praise an american president who pardoned our "ousted" leader, president nixon, who leveled the same kind (on an even larger scale) of atrocities against humanity in cambodia, laos and vietnam (not to mention what he did to our own service men through the chemical warfare engaged during the vietnam war) ... hypocracy is not appealing at any time ... what is wrong is wrong, we american's need to wake up to reality and truth.

maybe one day. .... off soap box .... signed, a true american republican.

[Arian Maverick]

As you have noticed, I was careful not to mention my own political views in this horary thread because I do not necessarily agree with the actions of my government, but I do not wish to be unloyal to my country.

Thank you for the chart suggestions; perhaps I will introduce this theory in Saddam Hussein's execution by hanging and the Fixed Star Caput Algol

Arian Maverick

[astrobhadauria]

Dear,
You are right on your ways of astrology,but by the Indian Vedic astrology describe full image of the death.I opened your artical at 14:21:00 on 3rd Janaury 2007,When I opened chart of Horary astrology,there are Tarus sign in the sky,and Venus in the 9th house,after seeing by the trasiting star back,Venus in the house of death at 12:35:00 on 30th December 2006.At present Venus in the 10th house,and giving full informations about the death of Mr.Husain.His physical body not in the world,by the Horary astrology.The type of death described by Mercury,and order of death described by Sun,All three stars presented at above time in 8th house.
The Reason of death described by Saturn,and the Ketu,this will provide death by unknown reasons,The soul of that leader seeing to publicity and there are not any star presented,The star of publicity in the 2nd house,only verbaly describations of the death,lord of 8th and 11th in the 7th house,giving informations,that when this Saturn will come in true positions,then something will happend.It is the bad proceres to give death to human body,punishemnt of body,and mind is batter by the leave alon,and not by the damaging physical body.The regulations of God is "If we can not make body,and if we can not arrenge soul in the body,then we have not able to damage any body."

[Andonis]

Mercury - Saturn (country leader) quincunx receeding ...already dead

or as a 3rd party question. He was a country leader (10th), Is he dead? 8th house Mercury significator. .....same players same answer.

[Culpeper]

My judgement of the horary chart you posted is that Saddam is dead.

The event chart for the execution should show this also as well as other information, but I have not cast one as yet.

Culpeper

[Draco]

My judgement of the horary chart you posted is that Saddam is dead.

I am of the opinion that he is certainly dead too, without looking at the horary, I saw the video.

What I wanted to say though is, how did you come to this conclusion from the horary Culpepper? Where's the analysis?

The data for the event is 6.07am, Baghdad time, 30th December.

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ead.php?t=4208

[Neptune Rising]

I know this is not quite astrology - but - I asked "what will happen to Saddam" question before they announced the execution to my Zen tarot cards. His world was about to fall down about him, then he would find peace and be healed.

Neptune

[Draco]

I asked "what will happen to Saddam" question before they announced the execution to my Zen tarot cards.

I will never forget, and it makes the hairs on my arms stand on end thinking of this, that on September 11th 2001, I was in the practise of drawing a 'card for the day'.

On this morning the card I drew was The Tower. As this is a major card, I decided to shuffle and draw again for clarification - and again, I drew The Tower.

Two towers.

Some of you, I imagine will be familiar with Tarot anyway, but the traditional imagery of the Tower is very chilling in reference to what happened on that day.

There are some modern photographic decks, that even use the image of the exploding tower for this card (which I think is in disgustingly bad taste by the way), which goes to show just how powerfully representational of this archetype that the 9/11 event was.

http://www.starbridge.com.au/images/...-The-tower.jpg

http://content.answers.com/main/cont...aison_Dieu.jpg

http://www.cineris.org/blog/wp-conte...ajor_Tower.jpg