I have a "bad" birth chart?!

[Alex4]

Hello to everyone,

i´m new here..first i want to apologize for my "bad" english and writing mistakes. I need some help in analysing my birth chart, i give you
the infos that you will need.. i would like to know the following:

1. What is my "ruler" in my chart?
2. Dominant planets ?
3. Dominant sign ?
4. Most of all "love" aspects? I always had nooo luck regarding relationships, i would like to marry someday

Sun: Aquarius Eight House (8)
Mars: Aquarius Eight House (8)
Mercury: Aquarius Eight House (8)
Moon: Pisces Tenth House (10)
Midheav: Pisces
Jupiter: Leo second house (2)
Lilith: Leo second house (2)
Venus: Sagittarius Sixth House (6)
Neptune: Sagittarius Sixth House (6)
Pluto: Libra Fifth House (5)
Uranus: Scorpio Fifth House (5)
Vertex: Scorpio
Saturn: Virgo Fourth House (4)

I was born in Hamburg (Germany), January 30. 1979
I have Cancer Rising

Some bad aspects are:
I´m full of 8th houses , i have Moon opposition Saturn,
my 7th house is empty! No planets in the house of marriage
I´m totally unlucky even regarding money
No luck in job, love and friends

What is the cause of this? Maybe my cancer rising? Even my appearance is funny, i have skinny arms and legs but my belly is a bit "fat"..i hate my rising sign, would be better to have a gemini rising or leo rising..

[MJ82]

Hey Alex,

There are others who will be able to give detailed insight into your chart, but just to tell you - no one has a "bad" chart. Astrology is about understanding your strengths and challenges.

I have a full 8th house (moon, mars, pluto and saturn) and a number of very challenging aspects, but those with a full 8th house are also gifted and capable of deep transformation and change, as well as deep feeling. So learn more about it and start to see it is a key to strength, not difficulty.

http://www.ofspirit.com/carmenturnerschott1.htm

http://theastrologyplace.blogspot.co...8th-house.html

[Alex4]

Hi,

thanks for your answer..i´ve heard that if we have many planets in 8th house then it means our behaviour is like scorpios..i also have difficulties in
keeping friends, they come and go, but i guess that´s normal..
The internet is full of bad stuff regarding 8th house..my first reaction was:
Oh God, i will die young and have a horrible death (because of Mars 8th house) i will have a lot of crises never be happy which is quite true..i am not totally satisfied with my life

I tried to download my birth chart at "astro.com" but it didn´t work..

If anyone could do this for me and analize it for me..is there any indication regarding "money, love, job"?

Born: 30 january 1979, Hamburg (Germany) at 14:23 PM

Thanks
Alex

[Alex4]

Hi,

i tried to download my birth chart..hope it works now

[wilsontc]

Alex,

You said:

Originally Posted by Alex4

...i will have a lot of crises never be happy which is quite true..i am not totally satisfied with my life...is there any indication regarding "money, love, job"?

You have (duty, also structure, restriction) (energy needs to be combined with) (spirituality, also idealization, confusion), suggesting you are confused about how to structure things and may idealize the structure in some way. This is a stressful aspect, so this idealization can cause you stress. Sky-script puts it this way:

Those with this aspect are often tireless workers for a cause belonging to someone else and may need reminders that their own needs are precious and worth fighting for.

(from: http://www.skyscript.co.uk/saturnaspects.html )

You may tend to give your own energy away and become disappointed when all it gets you is tired. You have s in your chart, indicating stressful struggles with others. The challenge of the is to see things from BOTH sides and not to "choose" one side over another. The most challenging opposition is between your Midheaven (outer world) and your IC (inner world). This suggests you struggle between your inner and outer awareness and may try to choose one over the other. Instead, allow yourself to experience BOTH worlds.

You have on your IC, suggesting you may restrict yourself inwardly. Instead, work to structure yourself inwardly. Be the change you see. If you see something inwardly needs more structure, create it and benefit from that inner structuring.

You have a bucket chart with (expansion) as the handle, so you have it in you to be expansive and open to possibilities...if you allow yourself the opportunities in front of you.

With (energy is combined with) (relationships), you may tend to idealize your relationships and so become confused about them. Instead, be open to the relationship and let it be what it wants to be. If the relationship comes back to you, then it is yours. If not, find other relationships. Use your expansive abilities to continually look for new opportunities.

You have (being, also anger, action) (thinking, also talking) suggesting you might erupt with anger in your talking sometimes. Instead USE that in the 8th house (transformation, also research) to research things and understand them more completely.

You have LOTS of possibilities...if you are open to them. Focusing on what you CAN'T do will only limit you. Instead, find your skills, develop them, and live YOUR way. The world may not always agree with you...that's OK. Just know that you ARE important and DO have a say in things.

Suggesting astrologically,

Tim

[Alex4]

Hi,

thanks for your answer...like you said: You have LOTS of possibilities (yes! but NO opportunities in life..)

Just one last question: What is my Ruler ? How do I find it?
And my dominant planet ??


Thanks for your help!!!!

[Rebel Uranian]

Can you just post your chart from astro.com, or at least (and even better) give me your birthtime so I can pull things up myself? I thought my birthchart was total crud until I learned more techniques. Bad charts are theoretically possible but they generally don't actually happen in real life, or at least not ones that have no major strengths as well as their weaknesses.

[astrologer50]

Originally Posted by Alex4

Hi,

thanks for your answer...like you said: You have LOTS of possibilities (yes! but NO opportunities in life..)

Just one last question: What is my Ruler ? How do I find it?
And my dominant planet ??

Thanks for your help!!!!

There is NO such thing as a bad chart, we are ALL unique individuals and your natal chart is as unique as our *fingerprint*

Welcome to the World of Astrology!
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14561

Re: Need some education: Which charts to use when?
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17514

Beginning to Study Astrology
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=154469&postcount=10
http://www.soulhealing.com/tutorialwest.htm
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/astrology-glyphs.php
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/astrology-lessons.php
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/chartreading.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets_in_astrology
http://wilsontc.stormloader.com/#continue
( this is our Moderator/Admin Tim’s website)
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TOClessons.htm
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natalastrology.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/astrology-lessons.php
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/inner-outer.php
http://moonvalleyastrologer.com/tutorial.htm


I use Equal House system (where each cusp is same as Ascendant) and am a modern astrologer. Lots of newcomers come into Astrology/forums and get a free chart from www.astro.com and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few others if you wish to experiment…..

Within the mainstream here on AW of placidus/equal houses (the default on astro is placidus) only difference being some planets may move from one house to another thereby altering it's interpretation and it's 'only' with research will you find which planets 'fit you' in which houses. So my advice, do two charts, research any planets that move houses and see which you identity with - simple

So your stellium in Aquarius would be 7th house not 8th, so please research http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houses.htm#house7

pluto would be 4th house and jupiter late 1st.


Pluto in 4th House - angular
· Family ‑ deaths in family early years
· A strong desire to be the master in your own home. Deep domestic roots and desire to improve conditions.
· Also occult interests in later years. (all water houses are psychic in nature)
· Power struggles with family members.
· Pluto here suggests they have suffered from an above average amount of frustration during childhood and adolescence with strong controlling parents
· Intense about holding family together.
· Very protective of home and want control thereof.
· Love of nature ‑ dousing ‑geology

stelliums in houses
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080418162943AA1TzLE
http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/stellium_grandquintile.shtml
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33102
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/02/19/a-few-last-insights-into-stelliums-from-readers/

moon square neptune is emotional illusions confusions and delusions, espec around mother. Venus conj neptune is also romantic and financial rose tinted glasses and too much fantasy...

[astrologer50]

Chart ruler is moon and moon in pisces conj MC can suggests lots of restlessness and changes in career/work

Pisces moon
“However, your Moon is in Pisces, which is a highly sensitive and deeply emotional Moon placement. It would certainly feel like a Chiron-Moon contact, even if technically it is not. Those with Moon in Pisces experienced an emotional disconnection from mother whilst growing up. The mother was most likely either emotionally shut down, addicted, or very distracted by her own life. This leaves a deep wound to do with feeling left out or disconnected - emotionally - from the rest of the world.”
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=300612&postcount=5
Comments by R4ven senior member - “Sun conjunct Chiron in 9th” thread

since your Moon is in Pisces, your mother was most likely not available to you when you most needed her to be

Some bad aspects are:
I´m full of 8th houses , i have Moon opposition Saturn,
my 7th house is empty! No planets in the house of marriage
I´m totally unlucky even regarding money
No luck in job, love and friends

your 7th has a stellium of planets

showing others your ascendant and cancerian traits, is typically a 'worrier' sensitive moody nostalgic should be shrewd in business and good with money, family orientated and attached to family members. Do you like antiques or old things or doing bit of geneology?

Basic astrology
Now basically your sun sign is your 'core beliefs, values, ego' and Asc is your physical body, mode of expression and mask and persona that we all wear and hide behind, but definitely not what's going on underneath. What's going on underneath is your Sun sign. Moon sign, house placements and aspects describe your emotional and intuitive responses, also describes your view of your mother, as saturn describes your father by sign and house position.

So, think of a glass milk bottle the bottle is your Asc and your sun the milk, but the milk still has to 'come out' through the glass neck of the milk bottle....

Now aspects within a natal chart represent 'facets' of our personality, because we are all multifaceted beings. What these do is 'break down and compartmentalise' these facets into smaller bite size chunks. This does take quite a lot of self analysis and objectivity to 'see yourself' and why you do certain things and behave in certain ways. Actually it can be quite good therapy...

Remember back to your school days an opposition is 180', square 90', trine 120', and sextile 60' Now challenged aspects are conj (depending on the planets, cos some like each other and some really don't) squares and oppositions. Easy aspects are conj (if the planets get along) eg: Jupiter conj Moon, sextile and trine. Quincunx is inbetween (depending on the planets) causes health strains and unresolved or hard to balance planets/energies.

Problem with your Asc and sun's energy/stellium they are in quincunx signs ie: 150' away so what you 'show other's' is definately not what's going on underneath with you

Hemispheres and quadrants
http://wilsontc.stormloader.com/Step_2_Self_and_other_focus.htm#continue
http://www.astrotheme.com/planets-distribution.php
http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/hemispheres_quadrants1.shtml
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/hemisphereemphasis.html

The Western Hemisphere (right hand side)
It is the world of other people and of relationships. The native needs fellow creatures in order to reach harmony. He pays much attention, sometimes too much, to other people's views. A prominent Western hemisphere inclines towards extraversion and sociability.

[Rebel Uranian]

Another good thing about equal for you is Saturn is in the 3rd rather than the 4th. Saturn in the 4th is a really nasty placement. Saturn in the 3rd is the best house placement for Saturn. It's considered better to have malefics in cadent houses to allow destructive tendencies to be controlled, and out of all the cadent houses, the 3rd and 6th are in its triplicity. The 6th is a "bad house." The 3rd is considered mildly fortunate in Western astrology.

There are all sorts of things to look at in astrology like house systems, declinations, Lots aka Parts (and there are lots of parts 0_0,) harmonics etc. What is and isn't important is widely debated. As of now I'm considering the 13th harmonic chart compared to the actual natal with declinations, lots, and fixed stars to be the only way to figure out what the actual patterns are.

[astrologer50]

I would interpret saturn is in 4th and 3rd as it's sooo close to IC..

Saturn in the 3rd house
· Serious and penetrating mind. Capable of deep concentration. Keen sense of justice, early life apt to be unhappy.
· Once apart from his relatives may well feel no sense of kinship/family with them.
· Tendency to despondency and depression needs overcoming.
· Education possibly interrupted, but individual is an "eternal student." Will go on seeking knowledge the whole life. Apt to cling to the known and familiar due to unrecognised fear of new situations.
· Loneliness in childhood that needs understanding in later years.
· Lungs not strong here and Saturn says "Don't smoke." Saturn operates in the early life (ages 7 to 18).
· These people have structured and methodical minds well fitted to solving practical problems. Lack of confidence, however, may restrict full use of the imagination, and can hinder academic success. Slow at learning basic education (blockage)
· Possibly only child or eldest and felt they had to take responsibility for siblings
· They will judge their ideas according to their usefulness. Good for publishers or teaching. Make a good accountant and will be cautious about signing papers. Much use of telephone or letters in business.

Saturn in the 4th house
· Saturn here operates in the latter part of life when its negative aspects are much harder to take. In the roots of the being a selfishness that must be broken up or the dues will be collected in the latter part of life.
· Can gain through real estate and land.
· Possibility of trouble with indigestion due to emotions. The ulcer type.
· Often strong mother complex and a tendency to cling to the past.
· Needs to get away from home in order to get over psychological bias. Appears independent but fears to leave home. Will be happier away from the place of birth.
· Domestic responsibilities or difficulties are likely.
· In childhood these may be the result of others` actions, but adults invariably attract these commitments.
· There is a need for domestic security ‑ often provided by physical ties. Will take great pains to make a secure home
· They would probably have to take on heavy ­responsibilities from an early age and may have had to struggle for domestic security and will work very hard to provide for your home and family. May have experienced poverty as a child

[Alex4]

[QUOTE=Rebel Uranian;328321] The 6th is a "bad house."

First of all, thanks for giving me soo many comments on my birth chart

The member "REBEL URANIAN" says that "6th house is a bad house".
This is great!! I have Venus in 6th house (ha, ha, that´s why i have no luck in relationships) That make sense.

Someone says "i have full stellium (planets) in 7th house"..but as far as i know, my 7th house is empty. The only info i get (of astro.com) is that i have "capricorn in 7th house". That means "Saturn=the worst planet ever" rules my 7th house right? Another "great" placement for me (ha, ha)

[astrologer50]

[QUOTE=Alex4;329168]

Originally Posted by Rebel Uranian

The 6th is a "bad house."

First of all, thanks for giving me soo many comments on my birth chart

The member "REBEL URANIAN" says that "6th house is a bad house".
This is great!! I have Venus in 6th house (ha, ha, that´s why i have no luck in relationships) That make sense.[research venus conj neptune then, rose tinted glasses in romance and finances]

Someone says "i have full stellium (planets) in 7th house"..but as far as i know, my 7th house is empty.[in EQUAL HOUSE SYSTEM you do, in Extended chart selection on astro, there are approx 8 maybe more house systems to choose from] The only info i get (of astro.com) is that i have "capricorn in 7th house". That means "Saturn=the worst planet ever" rules my 7th house right? Another "great" placement for me (ha, ha)

there is *nothing bad about 6th house*

altough you have saturn square neptune, it's still a 'hard aspect' and the interpretation below will be very similar....it basically shows a 'fear of the unknown#

Saturn conj Neptune
http://astrologyforthesoul.com/billstreett/satnepgestalt.html
http://astrology.astrozoom.com/index.php?title=NEPTUNE_CONJUNCTION_OR_PARALLEL_TO _SATURN

Saturn conj/square neptune can show a fear of the unknown and good at managing personal finances..although these are generational planets, posited in bottom left quadrant makes them felt internally...It can also be linked to depression when triggered and/or having your childhood dreams crushed by father, males and/or authority figures.


“The Equal House System avoids the problem with the Placidus which results in extremely uneven houses if the native should be born in extreme northern or southern latitudes.
Each sign is fully represented on a house cusp.
Debbie Kempton Smith the author of Secrets from an StarGazer's Notebook recommends either Equal House or Koch (unequal).
Margaret Hone puts forth an excellent argument in favor of Equal House in her book, "Applied Astrology" which is why it is the default for SkyViewZone.
Jeff Mayo and the Faculty for Astrological Studies also favors this house system.”
http://www.solsticepoint.com/astrologersmemorial/hone.html
http://www.astrolozy.com/article19.asp
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/systems.html

http://www.skyviewzone.com/birthinfoforms2/housesexplained.htm
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Z0nnE2IP7A4C&pg=PA167&dq=astrology+equal+ house&as_brr=3&ei=i0iJS-PlGo3mygS89Nn8DQ&cd=2#v=onepage&q=astrology%20equa l%20house&f=false

[selfless]

by Indian astrology(which is based on Moon), Lal Kitab, trying to analyse ur chart..u have Gemini Ascendant, Moon-sign-Aquarius, Satabhisa Star as ur birth star.. ruling planet of ur Ascendant is Mercury..ruling planet of ur Moon-sign is Saturn...Mars and Jupiter (retrograde) are the strongest planets in ur birth chart as per Indian Astrology..at present ur Saturn dasa has started july 1996 and will end on july 2015..Saturn is the lord of ur LUCK & longevity.....marriage chances are there , but main marriage chance, good satisfactory permanent job(work) is from january 2013 to july 2015..Jupiter is the Lord of Marriage and JOB in ur Birth-chart..

REMEDIES--1.. keep KESAR / GOLD on person..(at least 100 days)
2...take some Almonds to the temple & bring back half of the them and keep them in White cloth at home..