What is a Stellium ?

[deanna]

My son Raiden was born with 2 Stelliums:

Moon: 13Aqu16'25" and Venus: 18Aqu24'44" and Nep: 18Aqu56'23"
All in the 8th house

Mer: 13Pis10'56" and Ura: 12Pis05'04" and Mid: 19Pis24'20"
In the 9th house

Attached is his birth information. I would be very grateful for help on explaining what a Stellium is in a birth chart.

Thank-you in advance for your help!

[rahu]

a stellium is simply more than one planet in conjunction.it is interpreted just as a conjunction,a merding of the symbols.
you son's are interesting ,the moon,venus,neptune gives a very sensitive and creative native who could be passive and lack direction at times.the mercury,uranus conjunction gives a very intelligent,tempermental and psychic native.both strong impulses in the same person will make it difficult for you to anticipate his behavior.
rahu

[deanna]

Thank-you for the great insight and reviewing my sons birth chart information.

He is a very jolly boy. He was born on his great grandmothers birthday and he is and will be the only child on both sides of the family. We are older parents.

Can the MC be part of the Stellium or can it be only planets?

Also is it true that a planetary member of the Stellium is subject to the influence of aspects to the other planets in the same Stellium? i.e. aspect by association ?

Saturn opposition his moon which would influence venus and neptune..

[Laura Elizabeth]

Stelliums are three or more planets in conjunction and I don't count the angles as being part of a stellium - imo, your son only has one stellium, in his 8th house.

Saturn opposition his moon which would influence venus and neptune..

Right.

Think of transits to stelliums like a train going to each station. The closer the planets are, the sooner the train stops. The problem is distinquishing the energies of stelliums and the transits to them. I have two stelliums, one of four planets within 4 degrees of each other and the other of four planets spread across 14 degrees of each other. I can notice the transits to the second stellium easier than transits to the first. But maybe that's just me.

[Claire19]

Any other planets aspecting a planet within the stellium will influence the other planets if they are conjunct each other and the aspects applying from elsewhere within 4-5 degrees orb.

The 8th house stellium deals with the occult, the hidden, the other realms, reincarnation, life & death issues, major crises and transformations of all kinds including recycling, regeneration and renovation. On a mundane level, insurance, taxes, sex and corporations. Loans, inheritances, gifts and sharing of assets.

I agree that the angles or other points do not constitute a stellium. All the planets involved must aspect each other. The 8th house matters will have a strong influence on the person's life and will be a major focus for his life plan.

Claire

[Claire19]

Moon Neptune Venus are essentially yin or feminine planets and your son will be very psychic and may well be in touch via visions with the other side. I have Neptune Venus in 8th and am a metaphysician amongst other things. He will be very idealistic about love and supersensitive. He sees the mother figures in his life as this also. He will be refined and want someone who is artistic, musical perhaps and nurturing. He must watch infections through sexual partners and unclean food. He may be involved in relationships that have a strong rescuer or victim elment. THe religious or mystic life will have a strong pull for him.

Claire

[astrobhadauria]

Widow mother=8th Moon
Widow wife = 8th Venus
Sourl =Kind of female demon.

[Belgianmoonguy]

Hmm Stellium
Do they have to be that close?
Like Sun @ 3°, Mars @ 10° & Mercury @ 22° of a sign
That ain't a stellium, or it is?
Grtz
BMG

[Claire19]

Hello there

With the Sun and Moon we can allow a wider orb of up to say 9-10 degrees. Other planets I would allow up to 5-6 degrees. I believe they need to be in aspect to each other to be called a stellium. Others may disagree. Some will say as long as planets are in the same house or the same sign and more than three in a group, constitutes a stellium. However it is the aspects to and from these planets which have the power in our chart.

We can have an out of house stellium if one planet is on the cusp say, conjunct another planet in the next house, for instance. ALso a stellium can occur if a planet is at the end of one sign and the next planet in the first degrees of the next sign. e.g. Sun 27 Leo conjunct Mercury 2 Virgo conjunct Venus 3 Virgo. These will not be as powerful and are called dissociate conjunctions.

I have two stelliums in my chart 6th and 8th houses and two lots of three planets conjuncting each other whilst other planets although in the same sign and house are out of orb.

I would use the North node if it occurs in such a grouping, it would be very telling also.

Claire

[deanna]

Thank-you.

Not to change the topic of this post but since the MC or AC cannot be included in a Stellium does that also apply towards grand trines?

A grand trine can only include planets?

Radien would have a 3 grand trines with the Stellium planets, His MC and AC if that can be a correct reading..

[Claire19]

Hi there,
It has always been my belief that grand trines and grand crosses for instance have to involve planets only. There may be others that have different ideas on the subject.

Claire